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Think I've destroyed my marriage and family because of a lie I told 14 years ago! HELP!!

544 replies

ithinkiveruinedmymarriage · 13/12/2022 13:34

This is a long one so apologies in advance!! My DH and I have been together for 14 happy years, the last 7 of those married. He’s the most incredible and amazing person I’ve ever met and we have had the best fun and loving relationship I could have wished for plus now our amazing little family on top of all that. But, I think something I did 14 years ago may have just completely destroyed it all…..

3 months into our relationship (almost 14 years ago) I received an email from my ex containing friendly chat and asking me to design him a tattoo. I replied with equally friendly chat and said I’d design the tattoo. My memory is failing me with some of the details surrounding the event as it’s so long ago but my DH (bf at the time) was massively unimpressed when he found out I’d emailed him back – I said I’d replied with friendly chat and told my DH that moving forward I wouldn’t design the tattoo and wouldn’t reply to my ex again, and I stuck to my word. However, and this is the hazy area but a key point, I did tell my DH that I’d mentioned him to my ex in the email and said how amazing he was. DH seemed okay. Case dropped. We moved on continuing to be loved up and happy.

Fast forward 14 years…..still loved up and happy but….DH and I have a heated conversation, jealousy kicking in over my past and previous relationships (this has happened on and off over the past 14 years but not been a real issue, just normal jealousy needing some reassurance). Said email mentioned above comes into the conversation and he’s saying how can I believe you, how do I know you didn’t reply again blah blah blah. I said I’ll see if I can find the email and show it to you because I wanted to prove to him and make him feel better. Well what a can of worms that has opened up…….we found the email trail containing the friendly chat and showing no further follow-up, but no mention of me telling my ex about my DH, in fact no mention of him at all. My DH has absolutely flipped saying that I’ve lied to him and betrayed him and been completely dishonest which I think he’s within his rights to say and that I chose my ex over him as should never have emailed in the first place. But he’s also saying that I must have still had feelings for my ex, must have wanted to re-kindle something with him, the content was far too personal and friendly. He simply will not believe that this wasn’t the case however much I try to reassure him. And let me tell you, that absolutely was not the case – my ex was controlling to the extreme and made life hellish the majority of the time however the breakup, when I finally plucked up courage to leave him, was amicable and we did exchange sporadic messages as friends on and off in the following months. My DH is interpreting it completely wrong and the daft thing is that I feel like I only replied to my ex in the first place because of my own insecurities/jealousy over my DH’s past. It just all feels like such a mess over something that isn’t significant at all in my mind (although obviously the consequences are) but is HUGE in my DH’s mind and nothing I seem to say or do is fixing it. I have honestly believed for the last 14 years (as has he) that I said that in the email but it’s clearly not there in writing – I either bare face lied or it’s in some other correspondence that I have zero trace of…?! And the thing is, I don’t know which is true and will never know now!!!

Now is also probably a good point to mentioned the other issue I’ve caused, and there is a link – that I lied to my DH when we first got together – I was intimidated by his past and felt threatened by it which led to feeling insecure and jealous. So for some ridiculous reason I bigged up my past sex life up to something fairly extreme, stupid I know, but that’s all come back to bite recently too. I have now been completely honest with him about that and explained why I felt the need to glorify things but again, and again unsurprisingly, he doesn’t believe me and can’t take my word as the truth. Understandably he’s saying I’ve lied to him over the last 14 years and what else is a lie, how can he trust me etc. etc. The problem with telling him the “honest” bit here is that the past basically boils down to sex with the ex in the email above so DH is thinking I had some amazing sex life with my ex that I was trying to rekindle in the email. Aaaarghhh!!!!

I feel so ashamed and embarrassed that I’ve done this, I can’t sleep and it’s making me feel ill. How can I ever put this right if my DH won’t believe me when I explain my feelings for him and how amazing he is and how happy and in love I am with him. I don’t want this to destroy my marriage and my family who are all perfect in every way!! What have I done!!!

OP posts:
Shahira78 · 13/12/2022 18:55

I think the OP is an empath who is unfortunately stuck in a terrible position. She sees all his good sides and closes her eyes and

Shahira78 · 13/12/2022 18:57

to all the other things that he does to hurt to her, She doesn't want to believe this is happening to what she depicts as her 'perfect family'. It is going to take a very long time for this to show when you are so far in the rabbit hole.

AnyFucker · 13/12/2022 18:59

Well, it’s all been said hasn’t it

Your husband is an abuser. You can’t see it.

Shahira78 · 13/12/2022 18:59

I am also assuming they are both very insecure people who rely on each other to make them feel 'whole and complete'. I think both need therapy. Separately.

Jenni92 · 13/12/2022 19:01

Whydoicare88 · 13/12/2022 18:51

You know absolutely nothing about me.

I can see you for exactly what you are though.

According to your previous post you can mind read for all the 'counsellors' in the world and you said 'I don't have a clue' so you must know me very well right and know something I don't? since you said:

"You seriously think a counsellor would advocate the husband's point of in this?? You really haven't a clue."

I see you are also the type to strengthen your argument with 'so many posters are advising...' but I wonder who these posters are and what qualifies them?

'The reason so many posters are advising the OP to get therapy is so that she can recognise the fact that she's in an abusive relationship.'

I do like the fact you suggested therapy though because it's a good start and especially couples because then the therapist can get an understanding of the dynamics and make a judgement themself.

An do correct me if I am wrong are you a qualified counsellor, psychologist, therapist, psychotherapist? or even the least a life coach or someone who studied psychology?...

All the best,

IDontWantToBeAPie · 13/12/2022 19:02

I think your husband is being a dick. If a white lie to satiate his jealousy can ruin your marriage it was on boggy ground to begin with.

He needs to work on his jealousy. Being angry and confrontational over something over a decade ago when you have a happy marriage is insane and unhealthy.

Your husband is being toxic and controlling. And he's making you think you're terrible for a simple conversation with an ex that wasn't even flirty. Gross.

Readaboutyourself · 13/12/2022 19:03

This is no way to live for either of you.

He needs therapy and you do not need to take responsibility for something you said 14 years ago with no bad intentions.

Mom2K · 13/12/2022 19:06

Only read the first post - but you haven't done anything wrong at all and your DH sounds completely unhinged and abusive.

TheShellBeach · 13/12/2022 19:07

I can bet you everything I own there would be counsellors who would work with them and not suggest she leave immediately (unless he is actually demonstrating DV towards her and the kids)

But he is, and DV counsellors do not recommend couples counselling where there has been violence, as it is so dangerous for the person being abused.

But you know that. You're just being disingenuous. I am not sure what your agenda is but you're not helping the OP.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 13/12/2022 19:07

Also you say it's not his fault he was cheated on or abandoned but remember OP... that's not your fucking fault either!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/12/2022 19:08

I do like the fact you suggested therapy though because it's a good start and especially couples

The fact that you suggest couples therapy for OP and her husband is a very good reason for anyone to ignore anything you say.

DirectionToPerfection · 13/12/2022 19:08

Jenni92 · 13/12/2022 19:01

According to your previous post you can mind read for all the 'counsellors' in the world and you said 'I don't have a clue' so you must know me very well right and know something I don't? since you said:

"You seriously think a counsellor would advocate the husband's point of in this?? You really haven't a clue."

I see you are also the type to strengthen your argument with 'so many posters are advising...' but I wonder who these posters are and what qualifies them?

'The reason so many posters are advising the OP to get therapy is so that she can recognise the fact that she's in an abusive relationship.'

I do like the fact you suggested therapy though because it's a good start and especially couples because then the therapist can get an understanding of the dynamics and make a judgement themself.

An do correct me if I am wrong are you a qualified counsellor, psychologist, therapist, psychotherapist? or even the least a life coach or someone who studied psychology?...

All the best,

I bet you're fond of those 'Christian' therapists who disapprove of divorce and try to 'help' the couple instead of helping the woman build herself up and get out of an abusive situation.

So you're probably right that some therapists somewhere will try to 'help' them stay together.

Any half decent one would not.

PatriciaPattersonGimlin · 13/12/2022 19:10

This sounds like the obfuscation bollocks they come up with just before they bugger off with some other woman, to be honest.

I wouldn't tolerate 1% of his shit. Take care you are not enabling this tripe.

Sunnytwobridges · 13/12/2022 19:10

Slothmomma · 13/12/2022 13:45

I would be questioning why he is playing this like this and painting you as rhe bad guy, untrustworthy etc - it would lead me to think he was shifting his own guilty conscience

This. I was just about to say something similar. I had an ex that would get all bent out of shape about things and accuse me of cheating, etc. and come to find out HE was the one cheating or doing the things he got bent out of shape about.

OP I feel like something is not right here with your DH, no one gets that outraged over something so small that happened so long ago at the beginning of a relationship.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 13/12/2022 19:11

Unfortunately you are in another controlling relationship. So pleased to see Mumsnet hit it on the head immediately. Hope you can take away the message that everyone is sending in this thread and use it to re evaluate what you are worth. Good Luck.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/12/2022 19:11

I am not sure what your agenda is but you're not helping the OP.

There was another thread about an OP who was slapped and choked by her partner and posted in complete distress and bewilderment. It was completely derailed by apologists for male violence excusing what he did. I suspect that's the agenda, not helping the OP.

mellicauli · 13/12/2022 19:15

FayCarew · 13/12/2022 13:55

He's picking a fight for the sake of it.
It sounds like he's up to something and has found the one thing he can pick an argument with you.
My guess is that there's an OW.

Sorry but this. It's always the person making a big noise about the thing they are guilty of.

NortieTortie · 13/12/2022 19:16

He is absolutely insane. Take the out he's offering you.

PatriciaPattersonGimlin · 13/12/2022 19:20

This man sees your distress and heaps on more OP. You don't really need to know much more than that.

gettingolderandgrumpier · 13/12/2022 19:20

Sorry op but the fact that you can’t see how crazy his behaviour is and actually yours too .
I actually rolled my eyes at the part where you said you went to find the email from 14 years ago !! I couldn’t be arsed finding a email from 14 days ago. In fact I wouldn’t be looking for a email anyway to prove to my insane other half that I never cheated .
it would actually be very funny if it wasn’t so serious. I can’t tell you what to do but seriously do you think this is love ? Do you think this is healthy having to prove things going back over a decade? . I’ll tell you op no it’s not normal in a relationship trust me .

AlbertaAnnie · 13/12/2022 19:21

Huh? Either I’m missing something of this is all nuts - tell him where he can shove it

Soundoftheundergroun81 · 13/12/2022 19:22

Sounds to me like he has a guilty conscience, maybe ask him that rather him drag ancient history up again to tell you what’s really on his mind, you have done nothing wrong and don’t need to explain yourself over a stupid email that was sent 14 years ago

Milesty1 · 13/12/2022 19:22

What the actual… OP, he sounds unhinged. This is NOT normal behaviour. Please contact Womens Aid or similar, you are being massively gaslit here and possibly emotionally abused.

Milesty1 · 13/12/2022 19:28

Also, please don’t go to couple counselling as it’s been proven not to be helpful in emotionally abusive relationships (as he may ‘win over’ the therapist etc. If you really want to stay, he needs to get counselling by himself to work on his issues, and you need counselling by yourself to build your emotional strength back. Big hugs, I’m not trying to slate your partner but do feel you are in a vulnerable position. Hope you get it sorted x

healthadvice123 · 13/12/2022 19:33

I didn't read it all but after 3 months he was telling you who you u could speak to ?