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My husband hit me for the first time and now I don't know what to do

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Louise33388 · 12/12/2022 13:12

Hi,

I'm really looking for some advice as I can't go to my family and friends as I feel to embarrassed. My husband and I have been together for nearly 7 years now and he's always been pretty placid and laid back and then the other night we had an argument where it ended with him slapping me across the face and then pinning me against the wall by my throat. He let go quite quickly. After I started to cry from shock as to what just happened. I never thought he would do something like that. He then instantly turned around and said he didn't do it and he never hit me. I was stunned - how could he not know what he just did. The next morning we chatted about it and he still claims that he can't remember what happened and he has no recollection of him hitting me. He assures me he will do everything in his power so that it will never happen again.

It's just now, I have no idea how to behave around him, I don't feel like myself, I feel I can't tell anyone. I honestly don't know what to do with myself. I love him and I really don't want us to separate. Could this be a one off? Or am I being silly by thinking it could be.

Any advice, help, anything would be so appreciated.

OP posts:
ReneBumsWombats · 14/12/2022 13:57

Louise33388 · 14/12/2022 13:54

I think it's also worth mentioning a month or so before he hit me, I had been on a girls holiday to Lanzarote and stupidly drunk kissed a random guy. I don't remember it happening, but a friend of mine told me I had done it. When I came back home I felt so guilty and hated myself for what I had done, that I had to tell him. At the time he took it well (as much as you can do) but I feel this has had a lasting effect on him and maybe the reason he reacted with violence when we had the argument. Not trying to justify his actions, but do you guys think this is why he had the violent reaction he did?

It doesn't matter why. There's nothing you could do that would justify his sexual assault and domestic violence.

But no, I don't think that's why. He assaults you because he thinks he has a right to. If it wasn't that, it would be something else.

saraclara · 14/12/2022 13:58

He's raped you and he's pinned you to the wall by your throat.

The next time (and there will be one) could be the one where he kills you.

Call Womens Aid and make your plan to leave safely as soon as possible.

monsteramunch · 14/12/2022 14:00

@Louise33388

Gently, do you understand that he has been sexually assaulting (or raping you, depending on the specifics which you obviously don't need to share) when he performs sex acts on you when you're asleep?

You understand that's a criminal sexual offence? Nothing justifies it.

And even if you shagged someone else or had an affair (which you haven't I know) it wouldn't justify or explain away his violent assault of you.

He assaults you because he wants to and because he doesn't believe there will be any consequences, as there haven't been any so far.

Would you be willing to speak to women's aid and talk them through what's happened so far? When they confirm you are in an abusive relationship, would you feel ready to prepare to leave him? You are not safe around this man, he is dangerous.

And please, please stop considering having a baby with this man at any point.

Flowers
FlissyPaps · 14/12/2022 14:01

Louise33388 · 14/12/2022 13:54

I think it's also worth mentioning a month or so before he hit me, I had been on a girls holiday to Lanzarote and stupidly drunk kissed a random guy. I don't remember it happening, but a friend of mine told me I had done it. When I came back home I felt so guilty and hated myself for what I had done, that I had to tell him. At the time he took it well (as much as you can do) but I feel this has had a lasting effect on him and maybe the reason he reacted with violence when we had the argument. Not trying to justify his actions, but do you guys think this is why he had the violent reaction he did?

Oh OP. Please don’t make excuses for him. Please.

Don’t justify his actions. Just because you drunkenly kissed a strangers doesn’t give him the right to sexually assault you and violently attack you.

GET OUT NOW.

Stop trying to analyse and pin point his behaviour. Stop it.

He is a vile, narcissistic, dangerous VIOLENT man. You need to be far away from him.

YOUR. LIFE. IS. AT. STAKE.

This will not get better. He will never change. He will continue to abuse, assault and coerce you. You will end up extremely damaged or dead the longer you stay with him.

I am sorry. This is not what you want to hear. Or need right now. But it is the truth.

Please listen to us. Please re read every message. Please believe us.

We want to help you. We are trying to make you see him for what he really is. He has conditioned you into thinking that you’re the problem, that his actions are okay. And it’s because he “loves you”. He’s conditioning you to think that way. Manipulation.

I am begging you please tell your mum, best friend, aunt, cousin, line manager, GP, anyone you have a good relationship with - tell them everything! Please.

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 14/12/2022 14:02

Nothing you have done excuses or explains what he is doing OP.

He is dangerous to you even though he seems a good man in your eyes.

Men who behave as he has done do go on to kill the women they have assaulted. (The women concerned sometimes stayed with them because they simply couldn't believe this.)

ScatteredMama82 · 14/12/2022 14:05

You have got to stop looking for excuses for him! Imagine it was your friend, your sister who told you that her husband had slapped her and choked her. What would you say? Would you say 'well, maybe it was because you made him angry' or would you tell her to get the hell away from him? I'm sorry, I don't meant to sound harsh but you are clearly looking for reasons to let this slide and you can't, you really must not.

Bestcatmum · 14/12/2022 14:07

There is NO excuse OP. People have done terrible things to me in the past and betrayed me - my response is not to assault and rape them. Because I'm not a criminal.

Alaldlccmemsjzja · 14/12/2022 14:08

I’m so sorry that sounds awful

please leave. he is dangerous

lyricaldanceflap1412 · 14/12/2022 14:10

As all the above posters please speak to Womens Aid and leave.

You have inadvertently given him more power by not telling anyone and he knows that. He is now even more dangerous as he thinks he can wield his power over you without consequences.

MrsWhites · 14/12/2022 14:13

No, if your partner kisses someone else/cheats, you deal with it like adults, you talk it through and forgive or you leave the relationship. You don’t beat the shit out of them and then say you can’t remember it!

Mumsanetta · 14/12/2022 14:16

So your “Dear” husband is a rapist and also hits you? There is no amount of love or delusion that is enough to justify staying with this man. It’s your life but hopefully you will listen to some of the advice being given to you here.

Fladdermus · 14/12/2022 14:16

Louise33388 · 14/12/2022 13:54

I think it's also worth mentioning a month or so before he hit me, I had been on a girls holiday to Lanzarote and stupidly drunk kissed a random guy. I don't remember it happening, but a friend of mine told me I had done it. When I came back home I felt so guilty and hated myself for what I had done, that I had to tell him. At the time he took it well (as much as you can do) but I feel this has had a lasting effect on him and maybe the reason he reacted with violence when we had the argument. Not trying to justify his actions, but do you guys think this is why he had the violent reaction he did?

He had the violent reaction he did because he's an abuser. It really is that simple. He is abusing you sexually, physically and mentally (pretending not to remember). Seriously OP you need to tell your family and leave this monster before he kills you.

Hopeyoursproutsarealreadyon · 14/12/2022 14:24

Op if you had shagged an entire stag do he still had no right to hit you.
Stop looking for justification or logic because there isn't any.

Middledazedted · 14/12/2022 14:26

Again. Do the freedom programme. There is always other abuse. You are just struggling to name it.

ItsaMetalBand · 14/12/2022 14:34

I remember being where you are. I couldn't quite get my head around the assertion that the man I loved was doing these things deliberately. I adored him, he adored me so how could he fit the profile of an abuser.

A family member frogmarched me to Women's Aid. I remember being embarrassed, thinking that she was overracting as usual and that I'd have to apologise to the staff there for her wasting their valuable time on women who actually are getting abused.

Like I said earlier, they just listened, asked for as much or as little detail as I was comfortable giving, and were patient with me as I slowly began to realise that my ex wasn't one of the good ones, and in fact, the abuse was actually not mild at all.

Today, just do one thing - get in touch with Women's Aid. That's all. They will not force you to make a decision you aren't yet ready to do, they won't yell at you for not packing your bags right this minute, or calling the police. They'll just listen. Right now, he's telling you one thing, we are telling you another, and your head and heart are also telling you different things - your head is spinning. There's a huge comfort in someone just sitting in front of you, listening.

Knors · 14/12/2022 14:44

lyricaldanceflap1412 · 14/12/2022 14:10

As all the above posters please speak to Womens Aid and leave.

You have inadvertently given him more power by not telling anyone and he knows that. He is now even more dangerous as he thinks he can wield his power over you without consequences.

Exactly This.

Also your update about him performing sexual acts on you whilst you're asleep; its all abuse, drunk or not.

I'm in shock to be honest.

You need to leave NOW.

Knors · 14/12/2022 14:46

To reiterate again, OP you need to speak to someone in real life.

You need to tell someone about this violent man.

billy1966 · 14/12/2022 15:25

Hopeyoursproutsarealreadyon · 14/12/2022 13:40

And there you have it.
He is also a rapist..
Tell every relative in your phone contacts op.
Then walk away with your head held high..

So he regularly rapes you and has now assaulted you.

Thank god you never had children with him.

He is utter scum and a common criminal

I really home you can find the strength to do the right thing and leave him and then report him.

Everyone you know should know he is a rapist who puts his hands around a womans throat.

He is extremely dangerous and knows well that he is raping you.

Don't kid yourself about that.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 14/12/2022 15:42

Oh @Louise33388. What a heartbreaking update. I know what a painful situation you're in. There is no harder moment than when the scales fall from your eyes and you recognise a man you loved as a horrendous abuser. It's even more difficult, especially if you're like me, having prided myself on being a tough feisty bird, to then have to recognise yourself as a victim. It was the one thing I was determined not to be, and I hated my abuser (in my case my own father) for turning me into one. Sending you a big hug darling, from a sympathetic stranger, if you'd like one.

I recognise your language. You're not in that place of acceptance, and probably don't want to look it in the face. This might take time to process properly. 'The only other thing he's done', you said, as if this was really something inconsequential. What he's been doing to you is sexual assault or rape. When you're asleep you're entirely helpless. You cannot consent. You're not safe in the most vulnerable situation, sleeping in your own bed. And your situation explains a good deal that's already known about patterns of behaviour by abusers and the abuse.

He put his hands around your throat at the time of first physically assaulting you. But he'd been doing that to you in your sleep, each time claiming he couldn't remember what had happened. I don't buy it, but if it's true this makes him more dangerous, not less. He's claiming to be harming you in a serious way whilst suffering complete memory blackouts. At the very least he should be horrified and seeking help. He isn't, and he wants you to keep his behaviour a secret. That's another of many red flags.

There's a phenomenon known as 'boiling frog' syndrome. You put a frog in a pan of boiling water, it will leap out to save itself. You put one in a pan of cold water, and incrementally and very, very gradually you increase the temperature so the frog acclimatizes with it. When it reaches boiling point, the frog dies. This, lovely, is analogous to what he's been doing to you. The stuff in your sleep is horrendous, simply hideous. You can read online about the sort of men who engage in this behaviour. But, because he's gradually been turning up the heat, you haven't noticed it.

I know the boiling frog. I know it well. I'm in my forties. It took this long for me to realize the magnitude of my father's abuse of me. He slammed my head down a door and gave me concussion. He could easily have killed me. Yet, as an impressionable girl, I thought this was 'normal'. He'd convinced me I was a rebellious, bad child, and that he was disciplining me as I deserved. He'd cranked it up over years, so that even as an adult, I was unable to see how wrong his actions were. I believed his version, It took a cPTSD diagnosis and a therapist telling me he was a psychopath for me to face the enormity of what he'd done. It took half a lifetime. And it was the most painful realization I've ever had. I deserved none of it, and I cry inside for the hurting, traumatized child that I was.

I was just a kid. I didn't have an out. You're an adult, you can choose to leave this monster. You can save yourself, from his inflicting serious harm on you or from suffering the years of trauma I have.

I've shared this long story - not to be a self-indulgent 'me me me' whiner, but to help you see the enormity of what's been done to you, the danger you are in, and to help you recognise these patterns of abuse. They are always the same. My therapist also once told me that when you take away the empathy, abusers are always the same. They use exactly the same tactics, approaches, and scripts designed to make you think what's happening to you isn't that bad or (usually) that it's your fault. Don't buy it - it isn't.

I also wanted to reassure you that someone else really does understand your plight. Please, Louise, if you do nothing else for the moment, tell someone.

beastlyslumber · 14/12/2022 15:47

He rapes you and now he's tried to kill you.

You must understand this man hates you and his abuse of you is never going to end until one of you is dead - or you put a stop to it by leaving.

Get out of there as soon as you can. Tell EVERYONE you can bear to tell, get some support.

And no, nothing you've done has caused this. He's an abusive man and it's what they do.

RinklyRomaine · 14/12/2022 15:48

@Louise33388 Please read these replies and really take it in. These posters aren't trying to frighten you or demonise your husband. It's an absolute fact that strangulation is an indication of increased risk of murder. It's not performing sexual acts, it's rape and assault, and he does remember. He does. Do you think he's trying to make some sick, twisted point about you not remembering your kissed someone?

I'm so glad you don't have DC. Abuse usually ramps up in pregnancy and post partum which is when you are at your most vulnerable.

I know it seems terrifying, but if you could tell one trusted friend or family member irl, you will have an ally, and can make your plans. Leaving is a dangerous time, so be careful but you cannot stay. He will kill you.

Thereisnolight · 14/12/2022 15:52

He hates you. He may not want to split up (yet) but he hates you.
As others have said, leave him while you’re still young and have plenty of opportunities.

icegoose · 14/12/2022 15:55

Your family would tell you to leave because he is a violent rapist.
Of course he is grateful that you haven't told your family about his violent actions.
You need to look after yourself and not him.

Heavyraindropsarefallingonmyhead · 14/12/2022 16:14

Louise33388 · 14/12/2022 13:54

I think it's also worth mentioning a month or so before he hit me, I had been on a girls holiday to Lanzarote and stupidly drunk kissed a random guy. I don't remember it happening, but a friend of mine told me I had done it. When I came back home I felt so guilty and hated myself for what I had done, that I had to tell him. At the time he took it well (as much as you can do) but I feel this has had a lasting effect on him and maybe the reason he reacted with violence when we had the argument. Not trying to justify his actions, but do you guys think this is why he had the violent reaction he did?

Even if that was his reason why that doesnt make his actions okay.

Otherwise what you are saying is that people who drunken kiss someone else deserve to be raped, beaten and strangled.

You know you wouldn't think that was appropriate if it was happening to someone else.

He has options. he could leave you, he could forgive you he could insist you go to couples counselling together. Those are all valid normal choices.

He's not doing this because of any of your actions. He is abusive, end of story.

JustCakeInDrag · 14/12/2022 16:18

Jesus Christ OP. Your updates are horrifying. Please tell someone, anyone, that you trust TODAY.