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How to tell the wife

284 replies

curiousabout · 23/11/2022 23:21

One of my colleagues is cheating on his wife who I really like and I think she deserves to know. Only problem is he's technically my boss so I don't want him to know it came from me.

Ideas on how to tell her anonymously??

OP posts:
Fleurdaisy · 24/11/2022 07:54

If you know the home address just send her a note. Typed, your DH is having an affair, thought you should know. What’s going to happen if he accuses you, which is unlikely? You just say you know nothing.

Greblegable · 24/11/2022 07:55

There was a post on here recently where a wife was contacted anonymously by a woman. She had dates and times of when she’d slept with op’s husband which matched with him “working”, she knew his birth marks and a few identifying details. The dates when the affair happened also matched up with some mysterious phone calls op and her husband had rowed about.

The wife still didn’t feel like that was enough proof to end her marriage and thought it was possibly a prank and her husband told her it was someone messing about. Lots of mumsnet posters thought it could be a mean joke as well despite the husband’s behaviour being the definition of shifty.

Denial is a powerful thing.

If you knew her better I’d filter it through a friend she might listen to more but you would lose annonimity that way.

HiphopReplacement · 24/11/2022 07:58

Greblegable · 24/11/2022 07:55

There was a post on here recently where a wife was contacted anonymously by a woman. She had dates and times of when she’d slept with op’s husband which matched with him “working”, she knew his birth marks and a few identifying details. The dates when the affair happened also matched up with some mysterious phone calls op and her husband had rowed about.

The wife still didn’t feel like that was enough proof to end her marriage and thought it was possibly a prank and her husband told her it was someone messing about. Lots of mumsnet posters thought it could be a mean joke as well despite the husband’s behaviour being the definition of shifty.

Denial is a powerful thing.

If you knew her better I’d filter it through a friend she might listen to more but you would lose annonimity that way.

Well yeah exactly. People saying the wife may not want to know.. if that is her feelings about it then trust me, like this woman in your example, the wife will find ways to sweep it under the rug and will still be in denial about it. If Op lets her know, the wife can still choose not to believe it. Op wouldn't have taken away that choice from her instead she would have given her more choices and options actually. So the argument it's best not to be involved lest she's intentionally turning a blind eye is invalid. People can adamantly refuse to believe things that are as obvious as the sun.

ReneBumsWombats · 24/11/2022 08:00

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 24/11/2022 07:54

You don't think people having affairs are busy with "malice and planning"?

As much as I disapprove - and I do - I don't think they're usually malicious. They are not usually intended to cause hurt or motivated out of spite.

At any rate, if malice and planning are wrong, they're wrong...

ReneBumsWombats · 24/11/2022 08:03

HiphopReplacement · 24/11/2022 07:54

Type it up? Who hand writes anymore lol.

Me thinks many of this thread's nay-sayers are cheaters themselves!

Yes, it being typed/printed is one way the OW can deny it. "Whoever it was clearly didn't want it to be handwritten, why do you think that is..."

As for the "anyone who disagrees with me must be a cheater", I just can't any more. It's lazy, it's unintelligent and it's very, very boring.

SnowBall86 · 24/11/2022 08:20

Honestly, none of your business. It’s tape as old time, and it might seem like a good idea but people who tell are usually the ones who end up in the wrong. She will find out sooner or later. If she’s not ready ti hear this truth - she won’t hear you.

Dibbydoos · 24/11/2022 08:20

If you have her email address, tell her using a newly set up email.

I think she deserves to know - I'd want to know. What a AH. I appreciate people fall out and in love, but be honest and finish one relationship before starting another....

He's unreasonable not you.

Charitybargainhunter · 24/11/2022 08:20

On an evening where he is with OW, send her a WhatsApp from a cheap phone. ( cheap smartphone from £20!)

contact her when he isn’t at work but has gone to X with other woman. Give name of woman too.

she can then call his office number and see he isn’t in. Call the OW and check she is away too.

she can physically go to the office and if he isn’t there, she will know.

you need to give her a way of proving it for herself.

TartanGirl1 · 24/11/2022 08:23

I wouldn't!

Brefugee · 24/11/2022 08:24

a) stay out of it
b) "the wife" just stop it

Lobelia123 · 24/11/2022 08:26

MayThe4th · 24/11/2022 07:15

I'd also say that the people blowing up the marriage is the cheat and affair partner! 🙄 except sending little anonymous notes isn’t just blowing up a marriage is it? It’s blowing up someone’s life. It’s making them look around them, wondering who it might have been. Was it someone malicious, was a it a friend, was it someone they trusted who didn’t want to tell them. It’s making someone question their every decision and wonder who they can trust and who they can’t.

Telling someone in person is one thing. At least that person then has a source. Telling someone anonymously is just gutless and makes you no better than the people who are cheating, because you are equally happy to destroy someone’s life, way beyond why an affair might. That person may move on from their marriage and could potentially find someone else. But the anonymous note could stick with them forever. They will forever wonder which of their friends didn’t have the nerve to tell them.

If you’re going to play judge and jury over someone’s life then you do it in your own name or you stay out of it.

I could not agree with this more. Dont do it out of some kind of self righteous schadenfreude.

PlainJaneSuperBrain99 · 24/11/2022 08:28

What is your solid evidence that they're having an affair? Because all you've mentioned here is that you've seen them flirting or "getting close for comfort". I agree it isn't admirable behaviour, but nor is it actual infidelity.

Northernparent68 · 24/11/2022 08:32

Do you even know for sure he’s having an affair or is it just a rumour. You’re highly likely to lose your job if you tell the wife, so at least make sure you’ve got your facts straight.

gannett · 24/11/2022 08:33

curiousabout · 23/11/2022 23:28

Helpful...thanks

Despite your sarcasm that first reply was actually the best and most helpful.

Telling people bad shit anonymously is a cowardly, shit-stirring action. Only people who've been watching too many soaps, or who need ongoing drama around them, would actually do that.

If you're actually friends with the wife and you feel you must tell her, do so face-to-face. Be prepared for the fallout to rebound on you in the form of losing your job if she doesn't react well.

If you're only acquaintances with her, keep your beak out.

PumpkinQueens · 24/11/2022 08:34

If you think she deserves to know just tell her. If you don’t have the back bone to stand by your allegations then leave it to a grown up to tell her.

HikingforScenery · 24/11/2022 08:40

Glitteratitar · 24/11/2022 02:07

Honestly, I think keep out it.

My mum’s neighbour was having an affair years ago (brought mistress round when wife and kids were away). She told the wife and they split.

A couple of years later she told my mum she knew, but she ignored it because she didn’t want to face up to it. She said she wished my mum never told her as it forced to confront and get divorced when she would rather they carried on.

Really? A person who has nothing to do with your life can make you get divorced if you don’t want to? Really poor on the neighbour to blame your mum!

Roselilly36 · 24/11/2022 08:43

I expect his wife will find out pretty soon, these things don’t stay hidden for long, should you tell her, no, not your marriage, not your business.

Facecream · 24/11/2022 08:46

I had the feeling the OP is a man, not a woman.
Perhaps something about the use of “the wife”.
OP - you don’t know that they are having an affair and it’s shit-stirring at best.
Cone back when you KNOW they are having an affair

diddl · 24/11/2022 08:54

Glitteratitar · 24/11/2022 02:07

Honestly, I think keep out it.

My mum’s neighbour was having an affair years ago (brought mistress round when wife and kids were away). She told the wife and they split.

A couple of years later she told my mum she knew, but she ignored it because she didn’t want to face up to it. She said she wished my mum never told her as it forced to confront and get divorced when she would rather they carried on.

But surely she could have carried on ignoring if she had wanted to?

The only blame lies with the cheat!

LadyJoannaScroop · 24/11/2022 08:56

Yellownotblue · 24/11/2022 06:01

I once told someone that his partner had cheated on him. It turns out he already knew, and what I had intended as a kind gesture to give him agency, left him feeling horribly humiliated. That was decades ago and I still regret hurting him.

Not your circus, not your monkeys.

Agree with this 100%

Herejustforthisone · 24/11/2022 08:59

ReneBumsWombats · 24/11/2022 07:47

Quite apart from the creepy level of malice and planning, it'll be the easiest thing in the world to deny. You can't fake her handwriting and her denial will be convincing because it'll be genuine.

Use a computer. And just write ‘he doesn’t know I’m writing this, but I thought you should know…’

It wasn’t actually a serious suggestion. I personally wouldn’t say anything, I can’t be fucked with the drama and potential loss of job. These things have a way of coming out, especially if he’s being as open as the OP suggests.

Unless I had a new job lined up. Then I’d tell her myself.

HattyBatty · 24/11/2022 09:05

I’d send an anonymous letter. I was also cheated on and I hated that I was the last to know, I wish people had told me sooner. It really is a whole other level of betrayal, not only did your DH cheat on you but everyone around us were happy to cover it up.

SoupDragon · 24/11/2022 09:09

Just wish his wife wasn't so naive! Surely she must see the signs?!

Clearly you didn't if you wish someone had told you. It isn't fair to call someone naive.

ReneBumsWombats · 24/11/2022 09:12

Herejustforthisone · 24/11/2022 08:59

Use a computer. And just write ‘he doesn’t know I’m writing this, but I thought you should know…’

It wasn’t actually a serious suggestion. I personally wouldn’t say anything, I can’t be fucked with the drama and potential loss of job. These things have a way of coming out, especially if he’s being as open as the OP suggests.

Unless I had a new job lined up. Then I’d tell her myself.

Computer print is what makes it easy to deny!

I'm glad it wasn't a serious suggestion. But it was no more loony than bringing in an anonymous male voice to make a personal phone call (not creepy and scary at all, oh no), spreading the gossip in the hope that someone else will risk their job instead, buying burner phones and all the rest of it.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything @MayThe4th has said. OP should stay out because she doesn't know these people or the situation and some people don't consent to being told. But if she absolutely must tell, it should be openly and honestly, rather than create another self-serving web of deceit and uncertainty around the woman.

Newlifestartingatlast · 24/11/2022 09:13

curiousabout · 23/11/2022 23:41

I'm just too nervous to do those things. I feel like he will figure out it's me and then I will really be stuck in the middle of their situation.

I just feel so so bad for her! He's being such a pig! And all the other blokes around are just turning a blind eye.

Just wish his wife wasn't so naive! Surely she must see the signs?! Staying late has to be the most obvious excuse in the book?!

Maybe she does. You don’t know what goes on in someone else’s marriage.