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Online dating: what do men look for in a woman?

145 replies

NorthAngel · 20/11/2022 18:28

Hi,

Not enjoying OLD at all. I’m finding it a tough experience after coming out of a 23 year marriage. I was very inexperienced on the dating field when I was younger (more interested in getting my career on track and shyness) so haven’t got much clue about OLD.

What do men look for in a woman? Older women (I’m 50 but a young 50).

Just wondered!

OP posts:
EBearhug · 26/11/2022 22:04

I’m sure there are plenty of men who would rather stay single than make do

There probably are, but there are even more just looking for sex.

Roundbasket · 26/11/2022 22:17

JackandVera · 26/11/2022 19:10

and that is what I meant. The way some people refer to men on here in that respect is appalling. Men could easily say " oh god yeah all those old 50s women with their dry fannies" Both sexes age and have issues.

men Have a very long history of treated older women as if they are somehow ‘ worth less ‘ than younger women … and many still do
I hardly think men can complain about being treated badly over this when sooo many of them prefer younger women and DO have those opinions of older women indeed !

Roundbasket · 26/11/2022 22:23

EBearhug · 26/11/2022 21:23

ED medication is cheap, non-prescription and easily available, it’s hardly an issue these days

Depends on the cause. I had one guy who was up front that he was on medication that affected him. Some of them haven't had problems or sorted it before I knew. Another sorted it for our second attempt by getting Viagra. But some aren't going to get a second chance, because there's a lot you can do without an erection, and if they are too focused on themselves, I'm better off single, which is something they don't all realise. They're not competing with each other, but with me preferring to stay single than making do with rubbish men.

within a committed relationship I think most women would be very good about it and work with their partner ( if it wasn’t porn induced ) m

a bf or a guy who had PIED is A different story I think

HelloGooodBye · 26/11/2022 23:09

@Joey69 It's not a personal attack on the male readers here to say ED is rife in 40+ men from what I anecdotally heard. I don't take pleasure in their difficulties. I think it must be difficult for all parties involved. It wasn't a pop at men or a men vs women thing. This is a largely women's platform it's hardly surprising if we discuss men.
The problem with ED is that you need to have admitted to yourself you have this problem and actually went and got this cheap, non prescription, easily available medication and taken it. Partner might also appreciate a heads up before the event. Men are statistically less likely to seek medical help let alone about embarrassing issues. Some men are in denial about their ED because they think 'hey I have no trouble ejaculating to porn so I'm fine!'.
Getting older also increases likelihood of unhealthy lifestyle catching up with you as well as health issues that directly or indirectly cause ED. It's not a pop at men to state a fact. Its not tit for tat as some posters like to turn this into sexism war.
And sorry to be crude but a dry vagina is easily rectified there and then. I'm sure you can use your imagination and lube/condoms are such a standard thing that many couples have. I actually think you do men a disservice when you and others pull out the dry vagina card because ED is in my view harder to deal with.

Joey69 · 26/11/2022 23:39

@HelloGooodBye

hello there, I think you may have me mixed up with another poster I didn’t mention vaginal dryness on this thread, I was simply pointing out the ED medication is cheap and effective solution for ED ( if you are in the UK it is non-prescription treatment you can buy branded Viagra iover the counter from a high street pharmacy for a few £’s).

I have read your post above, and in UK (at least) ED is indeed a cheap and easy issue to deal with, maybe easier than vaginal dryness?

Are you in the USA by any chance? , you might have a different perception.

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 00:42

Joey69 · 26/11/2022 23:39

@HelloGooodBye

hello there, I think you may have me mixed up with another poster I didn’t mention vaginal dryness on this thread, I was simply pointing out the ED medication is cheap and effective solution for ED ( if you are in the UK it is non-prescription treatment you can buy branded Viagra iover the counter from a high street pharmacy for a few £’s).

I have read your post above, and in UK (at least) ED is indeed a cheap and easy issue to deal with, maybe easier than vaginal dryness?

Are you in the USA by any chance? , you might have a different perception.

M

Anywhere in the world I wouldn’t consider having to take a prescription medication somehow ‘easier ‘ than an over the counter lubricant

a man with ED not having acccess to a DRUG can make him unable to have sex . The little blue pill IS a drug , lubricant is just a gel , often used for other reasons also like condom use etc

its like saying needing medication to stop your hair falling out is ‘easier’ than having to moisturise it cause it’s dry . Obviously needing a medicine is a much bigger requirement than a lubricant , even if one is able to source the medicine .

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 00:57

However many women do use HRT which is on prescription to deal with menopausal symptoms and indeed vaginal oestrogen to support their vagina and urinary system. Lube is an in the moment thing but it doesn't address the more serious questions of lack of oestrogen on the ageing female body.

munnytrin · 27/11/2022 01:05

I've seen a few/posts threads where the man with ED has tried to blame the woman, rather than admit the problem to her. I don't know how common that scenario is but that's not on really.

WGO · 27/11/2022 01:08

I'd say men online look for a goldmine and sex from a woman who isn't demanding and let's them come and go as they please.

So basically OLD they are looking for part times committment free lovers.

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 01:11

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 00:57

However many women do use HRT which is on prescription to deal with menopausal symptoms and indeed vaginal oestrogen to support their vagina and urinary system. Lube is an in the moment thing but it doesn't address the more serious questions of lack of oestrogen on the ageing female body.

HRT iengbgreat for dryness , topical solutions are often recommended . Hrt is better for hot flushes , moods etc
fo you know much about menopause. Are you a man or woman

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 01:16

@JackandVera

why are you so intent on trying to make it into some strange competition . Clearly ED is a much more difficult thing as it renders sex impossible without a drug . dryness doesn’t require any drug even hrt , .if a woman choose to take hrt that can help but lube will solve it regardless of whether or NOT she takes medication . There’s no attack on men in saying that it’s just a practical reality

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:19

I am saying that women referring to loads of old guys having ED is very derogatory is like guys saying oh old women all are dried up old prunes. Neither are appropriate.

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:20

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 01:11

HRT iengbgreat for dryness , topical solutions are often recommended . Hrt is better for hot flushes , moods etc
fo you know much about menopause. Are you a man or woman

I'm sorry, can you rephrase that?

munnytrin · 27/11/2022 01:23

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:19

I am saying that women referring to loads of old guys having ED is very derogatory is like guys saying oh old women all are dried up old prunes. Neither are appropriate.

Bit of a difference between making a factual statement of someone having ED and calling women dried up old prunes...

Are you a man by any chance?

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:28

munnytrin · 27/11/2022 01:23

Bit of a difference between making a factual statement of someone having ED and calling women dried up old prunes...

Are you a man by any chance?

I'm not a man and women having vaginal atrophy is a factual statement.

munnytrin · 27/11/2022 01:31

Then say vaginal atrophy rather than dried up old prunes. Can't you see the difference?

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:32

So basically though my point is correct.

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:35

However yes this has got off topic but my point remains that it is wrong to tarnish swathes of men of a certain age with ED in the same way that it is wrong for men to be saying that swathes of women of a certain age have vaginal atrophy and urogenital issues ( but I don't think they would phrase it like that).

munnytrin · 27/11/2022 01:37

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:32

So basically though my point is correct.

No it was not.

You didn't use the term 'atrophy' you said old women were dried up old prunes which is just a general insult rather than a colloquial term for atrophy. Scroll back a few posts if you can't recall what you said. Christ!

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 02:06

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:19

I am saying that women referring to loads of old guys having ED is very derogatory is like guys saying oh old women all are dried up old prunes. Neither are appropriate.

But they are two completely different things .
lots of older men having Ed is actually factual …
older women being referred to as dried up old prunes is an opinion…- and a very derogatory one at that
Huge difference

anf yes you didn’t use the term vaginal atrophy you said dried up old prune , which shows you have a horrible opinion of older women

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 02:07

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Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 02:12

@JackandVera

as a woman ( which you say you are ) have you actually experienced menopause or been on hrt ?
you seem to be making quite a few statements about it

brookln · 27/11/2022 04:05

JackandVera · 27/11/2022 01:19

I am saying that women referring to loads of old guys having ED is very derogatory is like guys saying oh old women all are dried up old prunes. Neither are appropriate.

Fully agree as a woman (and no my DH doesn't have ED so I'm not triggered)

Complaining that a lot of older men have ED is as bad as men complaining a lot of older women have dry vaginas, or have side effects from HRT.

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 05:41

brookln · 27/11/2022 04:05

Fully agree as a woman (and no my DH doesn't have ED so I'm not triggered)

Complaining that a lot of older men have ED is as bad as men complaining a lot of older women have dry vaginas, or have side effects from HRT.

What ‘side effects ‘ from hrt are you referring to Brookln

calling someone names like a Pune is not the same as saying they have a medical issue like Ed . You sound really confused

ad for ‘ side effects from hrt … ummm the ‘ side effects are relieving symptoms some womem
have of menopause . So interested to hear what side effects you hear men complaining about that women get from using hrt 😂

Roundbasket · 27/11/2022 05:48

@brookln
You do realise hrt is taken to HELP the symptoms of menopause right ?

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