Page 11 | So fed up and think I give up on men

Missillusioned78 · 2022-10-29T22:10:14+00:00

I am 44. I would really like a fulfilling equal relationship. The only man I have met who interests me treats me as someone to ring on the way home when pissed. I have a full life of work, friends, hobbies and my wonderful children. I am not rich but getting by with my home. We are happy. I am SO disappointed with men. Don’t know whether to just give up

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:12

@BubbleSort
’You don't have to answer, but some of the points raised by @SittingCat are really just based on reality. I don't see his/her views as threatening, just realistic.’

which Points exactly ?
that he’s intelligent , women all aim too high and are deluded and any woman who disagreed with him is emotional and intelligent ?
or that men representing the majority of perpetrators of assaults and murders of women are just more ‘ disagreeable ‘

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:13

As a side note, could I ask you @SittingCat what are your views are on love ?

I'll not extend the question further.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:16

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BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:27

or that men representing the majority of perpetrators of assaults and murders of women are just more ‘ disagreeable ‘

Did he say that in conjuction with men and women being murdered.
I thought he said men were more likely to be murdered by unkown men on the street, than women, and that women were more likely to be murdered by someone they know. What he has not taken into account is that women are less likely to be on those streets because they protect themselves by being at home.

The disagreeable statement was related to what men require when looking for a partner, was it not, I may be mistaken.

which Points exactly ?
that he’s intelligent , women all aim too high and are deluded and any
woman who disagreed with him is emotional and intelligent ?

I do believe both men and women are guilty of aiming too high, the facts support this as there are many single people out there looking for love and not attaining it.
He does appear to be intellegent, is that a problem ?
I can't quite understand the last comment.

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:35

you tell a sad story but it only sounds like aging is sad for women according to your story

No aging is sad for everyone, we are all decaying, that's life.

And no I don't hate women, I adore them, I find them a much fairer (in the sense of justice) sex.

I do believe men have many more advantages in life, and I support the freedom of women and advancements for a more equal society.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:36

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Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:38

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:35

you tell a sad story but it only sounds like aging is sad for women according to your story

No aging is sad for everyone, we are all decaying, that's life.

And no I don't hate women, I adore them, I find them a much fairer (in the sense of justice) sex.

I do believe men have many more advantages in life, and I support the freedom of women and advancements for a more equal society.

thats great

I just find it very difficult to see how someone who supports freedom for women and equality could not see the mysogyny and red pill ideals in his posts and then actually think they are intelligent lol

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:40

I do not dismiss violence against women, and if you believe he diverted the question to avoid answering that men are the more violent in society, then I agree with you.

Men are the more violent sex.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:41

‘which Points exactly ?
that he’s intelligent , women all aim too high and are deluded and any

woman who disagreed with him is emotional and intelligent ?

I do believe both men and women are guilty of aiming too high, the facts support this as there are many single people out there looking for love and not attaining it.
He does appear to be intellegent, is that a problem ?
I can't quite understand the last comment.’

just lastly … I’m not so sure you and get agree ? he didn’t say that both men and women aim too high . He made a big fuss and hoooha of only WOMEN aiming too high and then refused to acknowledge anything about men
hardly balanced .

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:45

@BubbleSort
ftr I agree that both men and women can aim too high but also I think at times they can have low standards . I’m also sorry to hear your story as it’s one that happens all to often … people not using love as their guide , chasing the wrong things and making choices that cannot be undone

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:51

I just find it very difficult to see how someone who supports freedom
for women and equality could not see the mysogyny and red pill ideals in
his posts

Is he red pill ? He sounds like an academic who likes debate, I think he answered his questions because the op was female.

just lastly … I’m not so sure you and get agree ? he didn’t say that
both men and women aim too high . He made a big fuss and hoooha of only
WOMEN aiming too high and then refused to acknowledge anything about men
hardly balanced

You may have a point here, lets ask him @SittingCat Do you believe there are also many men that aim too high and are deluded in their aspirations?

I think I can guess what the answer will be, quite a long one which covers many angles. 😅

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 06:04

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 05:45

@BubbleSort
ftr I agree that both men and women can aim too high but also I think at times they can have low standards . I’m also sorry to hear your story as it’s one that happens all to often … people not using love as their guide , chasing the wrong things and making choices that cannot be undone

Of course there are too many women who aim too low and that could probably be me if I decided to place myself on the open market for love.

Not that I would but as I said , I know my limitations now and those limitations would not bring me sufficient advantages to decide that being in a couple was better than singledom, in my specific case.

No need to feel sorry, I'm still here on this planet, living, just not with a man and that has advantages as well as disadvantages.
Our time here on earth does not have to be complete unless you have a partner.

That's my choice, others choose diferently.

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 06:18

^I just find it very difficult to see how someone who supports freedom
for women and equality could not see the mysogyny and red pill ideals in
his posts^

I do support women and their emancipation from the slavery of men but I think Sitting cat is pointing out that in his view the equality of women has not been condusive to expectations of love .

I don't know about his intellegence, you may wish to ask him about if his male privilege has brought about a better education for himself, probably more of a class entitlement, luck of birth and genetics thing.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 06:19

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 05:51

I just find it very difficult to see how someone who supports freedom
for women and equality could not see the mysogyny and red pill ideals in
his posts

Is he red pill ? He sounds like an academic who likes debate, I think he answered his questions because the op was female.

just lastly … I’m not so sure you and get agree ? he didn’t say that
both men and women aim too high . He made a big fuss and hoooha of only
WOMEN aiming too high and then refused to acknowledge anything about men
hardly balanced

You may have a point here, lets ask him @SittingCat Do you believe there are also many men that aim too high and are deluded in their aspirations?

I think I can guess what the answer will be, quite a long one which covers many angles. 😅

Go ahead and ask him . I won’t be reading anything he writes as I find it extremely biased and mysogynistic . I’m not sure if you’ve been here for the last few pages but he certainly doesn’t sound like an academic to me . Just someone who had an agenda to put women in their place and try and convince them he is .
but of course if you are interested to ask go ahead . 😂

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 06:27

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Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 06:31

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 06:18

^I just find it very difficult to see how someone who supports freedom
for women and equality could not see the mysogyny and red pill ideals in
his posts^

I do support women and their emancipation from the slavery of men but I think Sitting cat is pointing out that in his view the equality of women has not been condusive to expectations of love .

I don't know about his intellegence, you may wish to ask him about if his male privilege has brought about a better education for himself, probably more of a class entitlement, luck of birth and genetics thing.

When did sitting cat mention anything about his views on equality for women . Sorry if I missed it ?

also why do you assume he has a ‘better education’

Ive seen many far more articulate , and certainly less sexist posts on this thread and I’ve made no assumptions about their education

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 06:43

When did sitting cat mention anything about his views on equality for women . Sorry if I missed it ?

That there are more female graduates than men, bu thise female graduates want educated men and the numbers are falling from the dating pool.

Ok, better education may be the wrong word, more priveleged education may be more suited.
I think he is articulate, sexist I don't know yet.

His views on women I think he believes are factual, that they are disadvantaged compared to men of an equal age.
We know that to be true.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 07:01

BubbleSort · 05/11/2022 06:43

When did sitting cat mention anything about his views on equality for women . Sorry if I missed it ?

That there are more female graduates than men, bu thise female graduates want educated men and the numbers are falling from the dating pool.

Ok, better education may be the wrong word, more priveleged education may be more suited.
I think he is articulate, sexist I don't know yet.

His views on women I think he believes are factual, that they are disadvantaged compared to men of an equal age.
We know that to be true.

How does hun sayinb ‘That there are more female graduates than men, bu thise female graduates want educated men and the numbers are falling from the dating pool.’

express any view of female equality ?

that’s really just him reiterating that’s ge believes women have their standards too high and there are not enough of the graduate men to go around

that says nothing about whether he believes in womens equality . The fact he hadn’t once acknowledged men are the primary perpetrators of crime against women and even turn it around to talk about crime against men also doesn’t show any support of female equality or any understanding of womens issues

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 07:13

Anyways I’ll leave it to you bubble if you want to enter into that debate , you have more patience than me. … personally I prefer to live in the real world where people have feelings , fall in love , out of love , make connections and actually choose based partners on more than a womens age or a man’s wallet 🙃

Luckydip1 · 05/11/2022 07:55

Men and women are just as bad as each other. Men value certain qualities and women value certain different qualities. The people who overestimate what they have to offer but think they deserve better men/women will end up single. You have to work out where you sit on the scale of what men or women want and aim for someone at your level. It is simple as that. If you don't like the men or women on your level then just accept it and stay single but don't complain, you have made the choice.

xPeaceX · 05/11/2022 07:59

I dudnt deserve to be future faked, lied to, to have a weird illegal fetish hidden from me until I had feelings. Still ran for the hills but it is just so ridiculous to try and claim that women are as bad as men.

Luckydip1 · 05/11/2022 08:04

@xPeaceX
Women can betray, lie, steal and abuse men.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 08:15

Luckydip1 · 05/11/2022 08:04

@xPeaceX
Women can betray, lie, steal and abuse men.

Yes they can abuse and murder mrn too but they simply don’t . Not in the numbers men do .. not even close

whilst I agree with what you said about people just staying away from those who behave those who they don’t like . I don’t agree with your statement that women are just as bad as men . Read the papers , look at who’s assaulting him go in relationships and then his doing the majority of stalking etc and you’ll see that’s simply not true

Luckydip1 · 05/11/2022 08:25

@Sosillysilly yes, women are less physically violent but they can be vicious and abusive in different ways.

Sosillysilly · 05/11/2022 08:31

Luckydip1 · 05/11/2022 08:25

@Sosillysilly yes, women are less physically violent but they can be vicious and abusive in different ways.

Im assuming you mean verbally ?
Verbally certainly doesn’t lead to people being in hospital or killed

If not can you please explain if and how you think women are causing as much serious harm to men as men are to women ?

you made the claim that women are ad bad as men and you have made that claim several times yet the data does not support that . Not even close

men and women being equally as bad in terms of cheating, luring , arguing etc ( which I don’t disagree with) , doesn’t make women as bad as men when so many men are doing so so much more beating , assaulting and killing . Not even to get started on sexual assault