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Gaslighting, cheating BF. What do I do?!

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alwayslemons · 24/10/2022 08:53

Right, here goes.

Bf has been weird for the past few months. Distant and a bit checked out. Sometimes it really seemed like he didn’t like me anymore. He stopped inviting me to events with his friends, and the last one I went to (a bbq in the summer) his best mate was really odd with me. Went from proper ribbing (he’s the kind of guy who reserves the worst insults for his closest friends) to being all smiley and polite like I was a stranger.

A few weeks ago I found out bf was doing drugs, when previously he was very anti them. He lied about it to my face. Made me suddenly think - well what else has he been lying about? So I checked his phone.

Turns out he’s been cheating on me with multiple women. Summer 2021 it was with a girl in his friendship group. Then some random girls who it looks like he met online or on nights out. One night stands mostly. Then this year he had a longer fling with a girl he knows through work, and then most recently an American friend of a friend. The American one he’s been saying he loves and wants to be only with her. The work girl is a staunch Catholic who he got pregnant and pressured into having an abortion only in the last couple of weeks.

To all of them, and all of his friends, he’s been lying about me saying the most upsetting things. They all know about the American and they’re all “really happy” for him. He’s been saying I’m a gold digger and have been abusive, and that I’ve refused to have sex with him for years. We went on holiday not long ago and he told them all that we had separate hotel rooms, that I picked fights with him, and that we spent the holidays entirely apart. Utter, utter nonsense. I couldn’t believe what I was reading (although it does explain why he would only take selfies while we were away and not let me take any pics with him).

He told them he broke up with me straight after the holiday, that we’ve been sleeping in separate bedrooms since, and that the only reason he hasn’t made me leave yet is because he cares for me too much. One of his female friends in particular keeps saying “kick the gold digging b*tch out haha”

So they all think I’m this evil witch and so have actively applauded his cheating (although I think they only know about the American, not the pregnant girl).

I feel sick and I don’t know what to do. Obviously I’m outta here as soon as I can afford to get a flat but I’m utterly winded that he’s managed to make all his friends (and possibly family too??) think that I’m the bad guy in this.

He has cheated before - we broke up for 18 months 6 years ago when I found out he’d been on Tinder and and was sleeping around when he went for work trips. He has always denied it despite me seeing all the messages. So yes, I feel really stupid for getting back with him and believing he’d changed. From what I’ve read I think his friends don’t know about that either and think I was just being fickle or something when I ended it back then.

I’m holding it together and I don’t want to confront him yet. I want to make him pay.

He’s so innocent looking and a real life-of-the-party type; he knows how to make people like him (my mum LOVES him and begged me to take him back after he cheated because she was sure there must’ve been some mistake - “he would never do such a thing”). When he first cheated it felt so bizarre because I trusted him so completely that it never occurred to me that he might do that. It never occurred to me to be jealous, ever. He’s really good at playing the innocent and pretending to be someone he’s not.

I want all his friends, his various girlfriends, and his family, to know he’s a lying cheating gaslighting scumbag. I’m not usually a vengeful person, but this is a different level.

What the f* do I do?

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Andypandy799 · 26/10/2022 10:06

@alwayslemons hope you manage to find some suitable accommodation soon and stay strong

Andypandy799 · 26/10/2022 10:10

@alwayslemons what drugs is he using and can you get prof of this?

alwayslemons · 26/10/2022 10:15

Definitely cocaine on a regular basis. He has a dealer who delivers (like deliveroo for drugs, I guess?!) and I know he does mdma too. But I don’t know if he buys that himself. When I found them I also found a mysterious black cigarette that certainly didn’t look like an innocent joint to me. No idea what it was though. It’s not a world I’m involved in at all, I’ve never had any interest in drugs, so I’ll admit to being a bit naive about all that.

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StillSmallVoice · 26/10/2022 10:21

For flat shares look at spareroom.com. Hope you find something suitable soon.

LemonDrop22 · 26/10/2022 10:35

hugefanofcheese · 26/10/2022 00:20

Try gumtree, rightmove, spareroom.

Yeah spare room maybe.

LemonDrop22 · 26/10/2022 10:38

I'm glad you highlighted to his latest gf (s?) that you were on that holiday, sharing a room etc.

Confirms everything how uncomfortable etc he was and how he's deleted some of the comments. Proper panicking about the American woman and others, I'm sure.

There will be a few awkward questions for him to answer now.

Maybe some will start to wake up to his "letting her stay in my accommodation cause I'm just such a good person but not really together" narrative.

However, as I'm sure you know, this is all just faff compared to the underlying necessity to get away from this narc sociopath and rebuild your life.

LemonDrop22 · 26/10/2022 10:39

alwayslemons · 26/10/2022 10:15

Definitely cocaine on a regular basis. He has a dealer who delivers (like deliveroo for drugs, I guess?!) and I know he does mdma too. But I don’t know if he buys that himself. When I found them I also found a mysterious black cigarette that certainly didn’t look like an innocent joint to me. No idea what it was though. It’s not a world I’m involved in at all, I’ve never had any interest in drugs, so I’ll admit to being a bit naive about all that.

He just gets better and better 🙄

alwayslemons · 26/10/2022 11:37

I have no idea how long he’s been doing drugs tbh. He told me when we first met that he’d never tried them and didn’t want to, and we bonded over that a little bit because it did feel like we were in the minority among our age group. Whenever there was drug use on TV he’d make a point of saying how disgusting he thought it was and how he’s so glad I don’t do that. He’s said this to me within the last few weeks.

I have friends who do it recreationally btw and I don’t judge. But they know I’m a bit uncomfortable with it so they just don’t do it around me. If he’d done that and just been honest with me about it when we met it wouldn’t be an issue at all. It’s the fact that he went out of his way to lie about it for so long that upsets me, presumably to make me feel like we were more compatible than we were.

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Campervangirl · 26/10/2022 11:58

I love that you commented on his posts, passive aggressive af plus he doesn't get what you're doing 😂
I agree with pps that you need to be careful though.
Carry on with your plan to move out, get your evidence if you can but be careful.
If you really need revenge get a piece of paper and write down everything you want to say to his friends, all the evidence you have, everything, get it all off your chest, then when you've composed it take that piece of paper and rip it into shreds.
You really don't need revenge, your best revenge is to walk away with your dignity intact.
Chin up, shoulders back, tits out!
I used to hate it if people believed things about me that were not true but I've a few years on you and now I'm older I don't give a flying fuck what anyone else thinks of me.
In a few years time when your life has moved on and you're happy and settled you'll relay this story to a friend and you'll tell it without emotion, it'll be like it happened to someone else and your story will end with "what an absolute cock he was, I can't believe I put up with his bullshit" & you'll both laugh, roll your eyes and take a sip of your wine and maybe raise your glass to all the cockwombles of the world ❤️

ListeningButNotHearing · 26/10/2022 18:17

This is so unhealthy.
Just get out and don't look back.
Don't spend any energy getting revenge - he's not worth it.
The only energy you need to use is to get out and get yourself a proper life.
The bloke is a liar and they never change.
Get yourself as far away from him as possible.

Pinkbonbon · 27/10/2022 00:34

I'd keep it up with the social media comments

Post stuff to his fb. Like 'breakfast ìn bed with my love" and a pic of the tray of food. And 'I love him but...Good grief does the man snore. He also accidently(I hope) kicked me up the arse last night. Ah the joys of relationships xxx' make it obvious you share a bed (if you still are).

I mean, he 3will remove you as a fb friend. But...maybe post it the zecond he is asleep at night. Thrn he won't see it till the next morning. Hide his phone under thr bed (he'll think it fell in the night) and maybe it'll take him longer.

If also post stuff from dates before recently. Eg'our 10th aniversary last feb'. Make it obvious you've been "happy' together for a while.

Pinkbonbon · 27/10/2022 00:39

Obv work towards leaving ASAP. But I'd fucking make it hard for him in the mean time. All with a sweet smile xD

If you're intending to move when pos then, Stuff wise, move it all to storage. Bit by bit so he doesn't notice if need be.

Then one day when he's out, move the last of it and leave without telling him anything. Block him with no explanation.

As for your mum...if she can't support your decisions and undermines your right to boundaries...she might ve one you should cut from your life also. Because taking his side over her own daughter...she is trash.

H112 · 02/11/2022 01:14

Rise above it all. Who gives a F what they think of you. Hold your head high.

alwayslemons · 01/01/2023 23:04

Just wanted to update on this -

I moved out before Christmas. I am now in a flatshare. I’ve actually met someone new, and he’s wonderful… but we’re taking it slowly for obvious reasons. I’m trying to find a new job but am financially ok for the next few months at least. It’s been really tough, but I feel an enormous sense of relief. My friends have all been quite vengeful on my behalf (very sweet of them) but since I moved out I’ve stopped caring about the ex and his godawful friends to such an extent that I really couldn’t give a monkeys what they think of me or how they live their lives. They barely register in my life and I’m so thankful to be away from them all. I just want to thank all of you for your advice and support. Happy New Year x

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Thereisnolight · 01/01/2023 23:45

Well done for detaching - emotionally as well as physically. Look forward, not back. Take it very slowly with any new relationship. Find your inner strength first. A job and financial independence will help. Give and expect respect from others, always, regardless of how your family behaves. Good luck and well done!

determinedtomakethiswork · 01/01/2023 23:53

That's great news! I'd take it slowly with the new guy though.

How did you leave, in the end? Was there any response from your ex?

MsDogLady · 02/01/2023 00:03

What a great update, Lemons!

Did you ever confront him re his rampant cheating, drug use, and lies about you?

JFDIYOLO · 02/01/2023 01:23

Congratulations, OP!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

rainbowstardrops · 02/01/2023 06:39

Well done!

alwayslemons · 02/01/2023 09:46

No I didn’t. I didn’t have the energy for a huge screaming match, and I knew he’d dig his heels in and lie about it anyway. At some point I will tell him that I know what he did, but for now I’m just focusing on me. He’ll never change anyway, and his new girlfriend knows what she’s getting into - zero sympathy for her.

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