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New boyfriend is having female holiday friend come to stay

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Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 19:21

I’m embarrassed about how upset I am about this….

The situation is I’ve been seeing someone for 5 months. He’s great fun to be with and I really enjoy his company. He ticks nearly all the boxes of what I’m looking for. When we are together we get on fantastically, he’s been supportive over difficulties I have had with my ex and the sex is great. It’s been tricky coordinating diaries as we are both busy and I don’t always get the sense that he’s desperate to see me although he’s very good at keeping in text contact.

He went on a family adventure holiday for 2.5 weeks in August. He got friendly with another family - a single mum and her daughter who is the same age as his son. A couple of weeks ago he messaged to say she’d asked if she and her daughter could come to stay with him over half term (apparently he had said if she was ever in the area she should visit) and he wanted to know my thoughts before responding.

I felt totally sick at the thought but took some time to respond after getting opinions from friends who were unanimous that they wouldn’t like this either. (I needed friends views as I don’t always trust my feelings after being gaslighted by my ex for years.)

Anyway I responded and said sorry but it’s a deal breaker for me.It’s not even just that I would worry that something would go on between them, it’s also that this other woman would be getting quality time with him in a way that hasn’t come readily to me.

I think he was very surprised as he’d expected me to say I was fine with it. We had a long chat about whether we were right for each other as he feels he doesn’t always say the right things. He said he’d not given this woman an answer one way or the other and I thought/hoped it was just going to be dropped as a plan.

Then he seemed to really step up the effort and arranged a weekend away. We had an amazing time and got on so well. But as he dropped me back home I thought I should double check about the visit. Then he told me that he’d had a conversation with this woman several days prior and said she could come.

I feel absolutely devastated and since then my mood and anxiety have been awful. I’m so upset we went away and had lots of intimacy when he had already made a decision to do something I’d told him was a dealbreaker. I asked when he was planning to tell me and he said when I asked or nearer to the time. I feel like my feelings are not important to him. However I didn’t want to overreact so I’ve sat on it for the last week or so. I’ve seen him once since and I didn’t mention it and our text chats are mostly fun and lighthearted.

But I can’t sleep, I’m preoccupied with this and I feel utterly worthless. I feel if I say something he will say we are not compatible so I have to put up with this if I want the relationship to continue. He said he said yes to her as he had to be ‘true to himself’.

He has since said I could come and meet this woman but as he doesn’t want me to meet his son yet (as it’s early days which I understand, and I haven’t introduced my kids yet) I think he will backtrack on that nearer the time. I know nothing about her, not even her name let alone what she’s like, if she’s single or what she looks like. I can’t imagine meeting some bloke on holiday then arranging a visit but he tells me this is completely normal and most people do it and would be fine with it.

Sorry it’s long but I d be grateful for any advice as I don’t think I can cope with being this anxious for the next few weeks. My life is pretty difficult in a number of other ways and I just want some happiness and safety. Please be kind as I’m feeling sad and vulnerable.

OP posts:
Relevanceiskey · 28/09/2022 23:21

ganvough · 28/09/2022 23:17

@Relevanceiskey

Except he was aware of how OP felt about him and wanting more time and also her anxieties about this friend. He can be the sort of bloke who invests more in a 2.5 week relationship, but that also means he loses out on the 5 month relationship. Because he's not on the same page as OP, something he initially admitted to, yet chose to take her away/build intimacy without actually clarifying he was ignoring her feelings on the matter.

Definitely an arsehole or certainly self centred enough and lacking empathy to not consider OP's feelings in any of it. When she said it was a deal breaker, he could have left it there and ended it. Or explained he was going to do it anyway but wanted to work it out- given her all the information to decide if she wanted to go away with him. He chose not to - probably coz he realised she wouldn't have accepted the offer to go away if she knew he was letting her stay.

Fully agree with all of this apart from the "her anxieties about this friend" bit. She didn't communicate her anxieties about her staying and ask for reassurance. She straight up threatened to leave him.

He was also an arsehole. He should have been honest when he made the decision and not tried to manipulate her boundaries by lovebombing her before he told her.

Jibbajabba1 · 28/09/2022 23:21

@thenewduchessoflapland
probably right

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 23:22

Pixiedust1234 · 28/09/2022 23:18

So you tell him its a dealbreaker but he's still going ahead with it.
You post here and most agree that you should bin him.
You then stick up for him and makes lots of excuses.

What do you want from us? None of us are going to say ignore the red flags babe, we get you lurve him.

As I said before I’m not too just react to my initial hurt. I’m trying to take a balanced view which is why different perspectives help. It’s not necessarily that I’m making excuses for him but more that I’m trying to see both sides.

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 28/09/2022 23:22

Presumably you know what a dealbreaker is? So the deals broken although he was manipulative enough not to tell you until he had a weekend of sex first

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 23:24

Yes and it probably still is a dealbreaker but we got a lot closer over that weekend so it feels like more to lose now.

OP posts:
Opentooffers · 28/09/2022 23:25

This would be any sane persons deal-breaker, just know that your line is a reasonable one, and he's crossed it. That's all there is to it, however he tries to paint it, it's just wrong on his part, so have the courage and conviction to end it - the fab weekend was him just trying to get you to change your mind - looks like it might be working.

mewkins · 28/09/2022 23:29

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 23:24

Yes and it probably still is a dealbreaker but we got a lot closer over that weekend so it feels like more to lose now.

I suspect that's what he was banking on.

Cherryana · 28/09/2022 23:29

Hi there,

The needing to be true to myself aka I don’t want you to control me - back off is a pile of shite. In mutually respectful relationships people want to look out and care for the other.

He is showing you through his actions that he does not respect you and he does not care for you.

This is why you feel so low - it’s a horrible thing to not be treated right. Do not make it a double disservice to yourself by treating yourself badly too by making excuses and putting up with this. Do not try and compete for his attention and do not humiliate yourself by ‘turning up’ to hang out with them.

You are loveable, you can be single for a period of time again and you will find someone else.

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 23:30

Opentooffers · 28/09/2022 23:25

This would be any sane persons deal-breaker, just know that your line is a reasonable one, and he's crossed it. That's all there is to it, however he tries to paint it, it's just wrong on his part, so have the courage and conviction to end it - the fab weekend was him just trying to get you to change your mind - looks like it might be working.

I don’t like this. The insinuation that if anyone disagrees with you they must be “insane” it’s offensive at worst, Immature at best.

it’s a deal breaker if you don’t trust your partner, and think men and women can’t be friends. Yes, but plenty of folks Trust their partners, for good reason and do accept that opposite genders can be friends.

the fact you don’t have trust and you don’t believe they can be friends, is your issue, anyone who disagrees with you is not insane by default.

bookbuddy · 28/09/2022 23:31

It’s not that complicated. He ignored you when you said how it would make you feel for him to host a relative stranger.
You are trying to excuse it using his personality ‘he’s a people pleaser’. Imo you have 2 options, either get used to being 2nd to his ego and it will work out fine or alternatively, you could decide you want some one who will care about how you feel.

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 23:32

Op do you trust him? Or do you simply not know him well enough to know? And if you don’t know him well enough to know, then why do you feel you know him well enough to dictate what friends he is permitted to have to stay?

caringcarer · 28/09/2022 23:33

He does not respect you or love you. He wants a random woman to visit with him. Dump him.

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 23:34

bookbuddy · 28/09/2022 23:31

It’s not that complicated. He ignored you when you said how it would make you feel for him to host a relative stranger.
You are trying to excuse it using his personality ‘he’s a people pleaser’. Imo you have 2 options, either get used to being 2nd to his ego and it will work out fine or alternatively, you could decide you want some one who will care about how you feel.

And what does caring about how she feels mean to you? It means he can’t have friends of the opposite gender Stay with Him? See I’m not aligned as I have male friends and when I was single I’d have binned off any bloke who decided I wasn’t allowed and they could not stay with me when In town.

Cherryana · 28/09/2022 23:34

Oh just to add about the ‘romantic weekend away’…this was horrible of him not lovely. It would have been lovely if it had been followed by greater commitment instead it was followed by behaving like a single man. He misled you.

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 23:34

caringcarer · 28/09/2022 23:33

He does not respect you or love you. He wants a random woman to visit with him. Dump him.

Of course he doesn’t love her. He’s known her five months. And she doesn’t trust him, so why should he respect her?

CandyLeBonBon · 28/09/2022 23:35

Honestly op I've read the thread and your updates and he sounds like a player who laps up female attention. I know you're currently calculating your sink costs, but don't throw good money after bad.

ChonkyDonkey · 28/09/2022 23:38

Whichwhatnow · 28/09/2022 21:21

You say he describes himself as a people pleaser? Be very careful. In my experience (and that of friends) 'people pleasers' only mean people that they're trying to impress or in situations that will make them popular or look good. Very rarely does it extend to 'pleasing' or putting first their romantic partner (because nobody else can see them do that so what's the point, basically).

At this stage I'd honestly remind him it was a deal breaker and ditch.

I just wanted to bump this post incase you didn't see it. I've had one of those and its just letdown after letdown.

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 23:40

ChonkyDonkey · 28/09/2022 23:38

I just wanted to bump this post incase you didn't see it. I've had one of those and its just letdown after letdown.

Thanks for this. Yes I agree people pleasing in lots of cases is just about having lots of attention and being popular

OP posts:
MsDogLady · 28/09/2022 23:44

…but we got a lot closer over that weekend…

With respect, it was a faux closeness because he actually had a hidden agenda. This is a self-serving, manipulative, duplicitous guy.

Shittytittybangbang · 28/09/2022 23:44

Sorry, this is prob the start of a long list of things he will do that you are unhappy with. I suppose there will be a ski week during Feb half term too!

Bearsan · 28/09/2022 23:56

He doesn't care about losing you. Wouldn't be the slightest bit bothered if you had a random man to stay. He doesn't want to meet his 14 year old son. He sees you once a fortnight. Come on! He's saying it in plain English.
Dump him and go through the pain now otherwise it will be worse later on.

QS90 · 28/09/2022 23:57

Some people might be okay with their bf having a new female friend over to stay, but a lot of people (I'd wager most) wouldn't be. Either is of course absolutely fine, but the point is that you personally aren't okay with it. Best case scenario, it's all totally innocent - even if this is the case, it doesn't sound like you make a very good couple truth be told, as you expect different things from a relationship / see the world differently. If he carries on with this sort of laissez faire behaviour (again, assuming it's innocent, when it could well not be), you will continue to feel anxious and bad about yourself. If you convince him to reign it in, he might be unhappy and grow to resent you. Sex should be good when you have only been together five months! But it doesn't mean you get on well as a couple. If you invest more time and emotion in this, you risk getting more hurt if it doesn't work out - only you can decide if it's worth the risk. Personally I'd knock it on the head now, hard though it might be.

EscapeRoomToTheSun · 29/09/2022 00:04

He lied to you. He let you develop that intimacy and closeness whilst knowing he was doing this behind your back. Would he even have told you if you hadn't asked directly? Bin him off.

PineOrange · 29/09/2022 00:07

He clearly thinks he's better than you and believes he can get away with murder.

This man will destroy any boundaries you put in place.

He really isn't very nice, he may look nice but underneath he's a selfish, spoilt, rude man with no manners.

You don't invite another woman to stay whilst trying to establish a relationship with someone else. Really quit talking to him, he will ruin your peace of mind and your confidence.

Forget trying to understand him or forgive him just find someone else.

Blahdeebla · 29/09/2022 00:18

He sounds sneaky and manipulative to me.

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