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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
wellhelloitsme · 17/08/2022 20:54

By "traditional morals" I presume that includes women doing cooking, cleaning and childcare?

Funny how his morals aren't too 'traditional' to stop him letting you fund his life through your hard work while you also care for your mum, isn't it?

It's almost like he's an abusive misogynist rather than a man of morals, isn't it?

wellhelloitsme · 17/08/2022 20:55

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 20:51

On one hand I love him and I don't want to let him go. Maybe this is codependency m. On another hand, my mind and body screams to get away from him. I turn horrible to him so that he could leave me alone. It's all easy to say just leave him and call the police. He knows where I work, where I live, where my families work, where my mum goes to her recreation centre group. It would be hell, secretly I'm hoping that he will be deported so that I can have peace but on the other hand I will he distraught as I cannot imagine him not in my life. I don't know...

More chance of him being deported if you report the fact he has physically assaulted you.

PuzzledObserver · 17/08/2022 20:55

when you didn't want sex with your ex, what did he do?", she just shrugged her shoulders and said "Well, he was persistent and trying to butter him up, but when I was insistent and said 'no', he just said ok and went to sleep". It got me thinking

Good. Because that is what normal, decent blokes - of whom there are a very large number - do. They might try and persuade, cajole, whatever - but in the end, they will accept it.

They do not shout, swear, threaten, kick, slap, insult, abuse, undermine, blame…..

They are not perfect. They probably have annoying habits, fart in bed, don’t pull their weight around the house or spend too much time and energy on their hobby. But they do not abuse their partners, or leave them feeling scared, walking on egg shells, saying they can’t leave because their partner wouldn’t let them. That is what ABUSERS do.

Leave this abuser. If he makes that difficult, report him to the police. Get help from Women’s Aid.

Then when you’re ready, find yourself a decent bloke. He won’t be perfect. But he will treat you with respect.

JulesCobb · 17/08/2022 20:57

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 20:51

On one hand I love him and I don't want to let him go. Maybe this is codependency m. On another hand, my mind and body screams to get away from him. I turn horrible to him so that he could leave me alone. It's all easy to say just leave him and call the police. He knows where I work, where I live, where my families work, where my mum goes to her recreation centre group. It would be hell, secretly I'm hoping that he will be deported so that I can have peace but on the other hand I will he distraught as I cannot imagine him not in my life. I don't know...

youre staying because you are afraid of him. Because he is abusive. Arrange counselling now. Then you night see him for what he is. Abusive.

OldFan · 17/08/2022 20:58

He is violent, and a bloke getting annoyed/violent because you're on your period is classic arsehole behaviour.

I don't feel like there's such thing as a a "nice bloke", everyone has their good points about bad.

Everyone has some not-ideal points, but some people are on balance nice. And definitely not violent and intimidating.

Please cut ties with him. Any issues, just call the police.

CaribouCarafe · 17/08/2022 20:58

OP I've been with my husband for 10 years and he has never in that time even raised his voice at me. He has never kicked me. He has never thrown a strop over not getting sex. He has never expected a penny from me and would never in a million years expect a refund for a joint hotel stay on the basis of not getting sex!

My point is that there are millions of lovely, nice, funny, good looking men out there (my husband is one!). Your partner sounds genuinely horrible. Please get rid of him for your sake and don't bring a child into this mess.

You have over a decade to develop some boundaries, meet a decent man, and have a child. The longer you spend with this one, the more time you are wasting.

Matildahoney · 17/08/2022 20:59

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:50

No- cause I know that the abuse will escalate. I know this sounds silly but most of my friends are married have kids, appear happy. I just feel sad on how my life has turned out.

Your life is only turning out like this because you're allowing it!

Beansontoastagain · 17/08/2022 20:59

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:54

I cannot leave him. He would not let me. Even if I do, I would face the repercussions. He would stalk me, he knows where my close family members work, he would demand answers from then - or worse maybe hurts them, I don't know but I cannot put them in that position. I have to continue to talk to him so he doesn't suspect anything- just till I feel safe enough to just block. I cannot afford to get beaten up right now, I need to support my mum and I need to work.

If this is how you feel. You need to report him to the police and get a restraining order. He's controlling you with fear. He sounds like a vile bastard. Don't waste anymore time on him.

ilikemethewayiam · 17/08/2022 21:00

So you’ve posted about this before? what did everyone advise you last time you posted about it OP?

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:01

wellhelloitsme · 17/08/2022 20:54

By "traditional morals" I presume that includes women doing cooking, cleaning and childcare?

Funny how his morals aren't too 'traditional' to stop him letting you fund his life through your hard work while you also care for your mum, isn't it?

It's almost like he's an abusive misogynist rather than a man of morals, isn't it?

Morals as in, he tells me that it's wrong when a husband spends all day at work, after he has finished working-whereas he would want to rush him to come to me, as his wife.

He also says that we would try and have a date night once a week, because with children, we may not have much time to do things together as a couple- that it's important to have couple time.

He says he would work part time and help me support our hypothetical children. He says weekends are family time.

He tells me that he is worried about having a son with all the stabbings and gangs. He hopes that his son does not go down that path and if he does, he will try to get him out.

He says things like that...

OP posts:
WilsonMilson · 17/08/2022 21:01

This is scary and really sad. Op, you sound vulnerable and very naive.

This is like some sort of reverse prostitution where you are paying a man to use you for sex, and you’re the one paying for it. Horrific.

SunnyD44 · 17/08/2022 21:01

OP if you leave him and he does try and cause you or your mum any trouble then threaten to ring the police - it will not go well for his immigration if he has a criminal record.

If he doesn’t listen then ring them and keep ringing them every time until he gets the message.

SunnyD44 · 17/08/2022 21:04

He says things like that...

Lol so all of his so called ‘morals’ are actually not actions and things he does now but things he will apparently do in the future.

Don’t listen to words, listen to actions.

He treats you like shit because that’s how he sees you.

He’s keeping you around because it looks good for his immigration papers.

The second he is legally allowed in this country he’s going to dump you - every single poster will agree with me on that one.

Quia · 17/08/2022 21:04

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:01

Morals as in, he tells me that it's wrong when a husband spends all day at work, after he has finished working-whereas he would want to rush him to come to me, as his wife.

He also says that we would try and have a date night once a week, because with children, we may not have much time to do things together as a couple- that it's important to have couple time.

He says he would work part time and help me support our hypothetical children. He says weekends are family time.

He tells me that he is worried about having a son with all the stabbings and gangs. He hopes that his son does not go down that path and if he does, he will try to get him out.

He says things like that...

Why doesn't he want to work full time? That doesn't seem very traditional. Is he prepared to support your hypothetical children if you can't for any reason?

Carlycat · 17/08/2022 21:05

JFC, where's your self respect 🙄

Quia · 17/08/2022 21:05

Hitting a woman he believes to be ill doesn't demonstrate traditional morals, does it?

FlissyPaps · 17/08/2022 21:06

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:01

Morals as in, he tells me that it's wrong when a husband spends all day at work, after he has finished working-whereas he would want to rush him to come to me, as his wife.

He also says that we would try and have a date night once a week, because with children, we may not have much time to do things together as a couple- that it's important to have couple time.

He says he would work part time and help me support our hypothetical children. He says weekends are family time.

He tells me that he is worried about having a son with all the stabbings and gangs. He hopes that his son does not go down that path and if he does, he will try to get him out.

He says things like that...

Sorry OP but these aren’t morals.

He’s telling you what you want to hear.

This is a manipulation tactic. He’s wanting you to see him in a “good light”. Because he knows he’s a piece of shit. You know it too.

RampantIvy · 17/08/2022 21:06

No- cause I know that the abuse will escalate.

And there it is.

You absolutely MUST leave him.
How did it come to this that you have settled for a manipulative, gaslighting, abusive bully who has never worked and uses you for sex and money?

It’s no wonder your mum doesn’t like him. If you were my daughter I wouldn’t like him either.

Please open your eyes and see him for what he really is. People aren’t being rude. They can see what you can’t or won’t accept. He won’t change. Remove your fingers from your ears and stop singing lalalala.

Please, for the sake of your mental and physical health get rid of him. This is an extremely dysfunctional “relationship”

particularly now he is at the appeal stage and is threatening he sent to a deportation centre or being deported

Quite frankly, that would be the best outcome for you.

KnockedInn · 17/08/2022 21:07

Talk is cheap op.

Pay attention to his actions.

Anyone can say all the right things. But it's only genuine if their actions are the same as their talk. And his are not! You are holding out for something that will never happen with this guy.

Iflyaway · 17/08/2022 21:07

I think it's normal for a man to want sex- especially if his only getting it once a month.

OP, if you only have one "date" with him a month, you have no idea what he gets up to for the rest of it.

You sound very vulnerable.

If you are posting on MN, you know deep down this relationship is not right. Please get in touch with Women's Aid to help you find your strength to escape this toxicity.

Really, you owe it to your future self.

sending hugs

Carlycat · 17/08/2022 21:08

Your poor mother must be worried out of her mind

Fluffyboo · 17/08/2022 21:10

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:43

I just want him to change. He tells me his sorry, that he loves me, he cries when I keep telling him what his doing and how I feel, he knows it's wrong but I don't know...

He never will change. Abusers don't.

hangrylady · 17/08/2022 21:11

Get the fuck out. Now. No wonder your mum doesn't like him I'd go to prison before I let my DD be with a man like this.

laalaaland · 17/08/2022 21:11

If this is real, it is very very sad. He treats you appallingly, this is the only relationship you have known so think it is normal. He is controlling and violent, you are scared of him. And you want to burden a poor child with him as a father. Really really sad.

There are many many many nice guys out there, they most certainly do exist. Not 'perfect' guys - no one is perfect, but nice guys, who don't threaten, manipulate, terrify and control you.

Please stop having any contact with him.

ISaidHeyWhatsGoingOn · 17/08/2022 21:12

No child deserves to be brought into this.

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