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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
Bergamotte · 17/08/2022 21:12

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:54

I cannot leave him. He would not let me. Even if I do, I would face the repercussions. He would stalk me, he knows where my close family members work, he would demand answers from then - or worse maybe hurts them, I don't know but I cannot put them in that position. I have to continue to talk to him so he doesn't suspect anything- just till I feel safe enough to just block. I cannot afford to get beaten up right now, I need to support my mum and I need to work.

This is not a good reason to stay- it is actually a very, very, very strong reason to leave.

Talk to the police or to Women's Aid about your worries that he would take revenge if you left him.

There are plenty of good men out there. My partner would never try to force or coerce me into sex. It wouldn't occur to him to be angry either if I got my period, or just wasn't in the mood. Even if that is for months at a time.

This man would NOT be a good father to your child. His unpredictable behaviour, his violence, his lack of respect towards women.
He would not be a supportive co-parent, would not be a good role model. It does not sound like he would consistently be a kind, loving, gentle dad.

Please get away from him and take time to get to know yourself. You say you've been with him since you were 16 and have never had another boyfriend- so you don't know how much better it could be in a mutually respectful relationship!

Please OP, don't stay with this man. Don't let your mum see him hurt you any more.
And please DON'T have a baby with him!

viques · 17/08/2022 21:13

wellhelloitsme · 17/08/2022 20:55

More chance of him being deported if you report the fact he has physically assaulted you.

I wonder if a part of his appeal against deportation is that he is in a committed long term relationship………….. so he is claiming that he has the right to a family life. You might be inadvertently providing the Home Office with the reason to grant him right to remain in the UK.

Carlycat · 17/08/2022 21:13

"Traditional morals" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

blubberball · 17/08/2022 21:16

He won't change. Ever. At all. He's shown you who he is, believe him. Up to you if you're happy with that, but I think it's unacceptable for you to be abused like this.

KnockedInn · 17/08/2022 21:17

HERE IS THE TEST OP
**
Ask yourself what he would do to you if someone showed him this thread or read every word to him

Changechangychange · 17/08/2022 21:18

Carlycat · 17/08/2022 21:13

"Traditional morals" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The “traditional moral” of not encouraging your non-existent son to stab somebody. Truly this man is a prince.

And the rest of it just sounds like a pre-emptive excuse for cocklodging - he loves you SO much he couldn’t possibly work full time or contribute financially, he’d far rather sit on his arse at home while you continue to pay for everything.

Vapeyvapevape · 17/08/2022 21:19

How is his mum helping with his appeal?

Munchyseeds2 · 17/08/2022 21:20

I dont know what to say....I hope that a part of you is seeing that EVERYONE is telling you basically the same thing, this man is no good for you and you need to get away from him
If you were my daughter I would be beside myself with worry for you
Please listen to everyone and be brave

Carlycat · 17/08/2022 21:21

I just hope he's deported before he causes any more damage. And to think my taxes are paying for abusive scum like this

SunnyD44 · 17/08/2022 21:21

When we are out in public, I feel safe because I know that if I say anything, he would not make a scene. The minute we are in behind close doors, I am a mouse, when things are going well, great, when we have an argument, I have to placid him so that he doesn't lose his temper and when I return back to my home home, I feel at peace.

This is what you put on one of your other threads.

If this is real then you need to sort yourself out OP.

No one can change your situation but yourself.

If you’re unhappy then do something about it.

wellhelloitsme · 17/08/2022 21:23

Morals as in, he tells me that it's wrong when a husband spends all day at work, after he has finished working-whereas he would want to rush him to come to me, as his wife.

But not wrong for a woman to spend all day either at work or caring for their mum, then spending the little money she has from / despite doing those things on a hotel room for a man to shag her and emotionally (and now physically) abuse her in?

He also says that we would try and have a date night once a week, because with children, we may not have much time to do things together as a couple- that it's important to have couple time.

So he is already thinking about how HE needs to remain too if your priority list even before children have arrived?

He says he would work part time and help me support our hypothetical children. He says weekends are family time.

He wouldn't be 'helping you' by working part time (why not full time?!) he would just be being an adult.

He tells me that he is worried about having a son with all the stabbings and gangs. He hopes that his son does not go down that path and if he does, he will try to get him out.

Presumably he's not worried about his future hypothetical son being an abuser who kicks women in their backs as well as emotionally abusing them them to the point they are frightened of him? No? Just worried about stabbings and gangs.

Mate, he's a horrible cunt.

And I'm sorry but you would be so, so, so selfish to have a child with him.

Cherchezlaspice · 17/08/2022 21:26

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:01

Morals as in, he tells me that it's wrong when a husband spends all day at work, after he has finished working-whereas he would want to rush him to come to me, as his wife.

He also says that we would try and have a date night once a week, because with children, we may not have much time to do things together as a couple- that it's important to have couple time.

He says he would work part time and help me support our hypothetical children. He says weekends are family time.

He tells me that he is worried about having a son with all the stabbings and gangs. He hopes that his son does not go down that path and if he does, he will try to get him out.

He says things like that...

Sweet Jesus, what am I even reading?

What is wrong with you? This better be a windup. You cannot be writing all of this genuinely.

ISaidHeyWhatsGoingOn · 17/08/2022 21:28

Changechangychange · 17/08/2022 21:18

The “traditional moral” of not encouraging your non-existent son to stab somebody. Truly this man is a prince.

And the rest of it just sounds like a pre-emptive excuse for cocklodging - he loves you SO much he couldn’t possibly work full time or contribute financially, he’d far rather sit on his arse at home while you continue to pay for everything.

And the date night is his way of telling you he will expect sex at least once a week, after you've worked all week and seen to the house and kids...and you already know what he does when you say no.

He's a traditional cunt.

Ilikewinter · 17/08/2022 21:29

She is only here to support him with his immigration, particularly now he is at the appeal stage and is threatening he sent to a deportation centre or being deported, but she will be returning back home soon anyhow,

is she trying to claim private and family life?, having his mum here wont help him, obviously she isnt living in the UK.

He may be trying to prove hes in a relationship with you, however given that hes at appeal stage then that claim hasnt been believed either. I can almost guarantee his appeal will not overturn the refusal decision.

feellikeanalien · 17/08/2022 21:30

So OP lets just say he gets leave to remain. You have a baby with him. The abuse ramps up and social services get involved. Do you know what will happen to the baby you are so keen to have? If you won't leave him they will take the baby away from you.

I know that sounds horrible but if this is real then you need a reality check.

That would probably be the best outcome. The police could be knocking on your mum's door to tell her that you and the baby have been killed by him.

Please, if this is real, get away from this man.

DuesToTheDirt · 17/08/2022 21:32

"I don't feel like there's such thing as a a "nice bloke", everyone has their good points about bad. I'm not saying what he is doing is right but I don't believe that they are genuine good guys out there."

What nonsense, of course there are. And if you don't find a nice one, well, better on your own than having a boyfriend who kicks you in the back.

wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 17/08/2022 21:35

Bloody hell!
So you've been in a relationship with someone who wants a British passport/visa for 12 years? Why hasn't he got this already?

You have sex , once a month in a hotel... this is to get you pregnant. He's already complained about your periods! How can you not understand what he's using you for?

That you're not comfortable with him , AFTER 12 YEARS!!! Suggests that this isn't even a relationship and that you are quite vulnerable in your understanding of relationships.

I'm sorry love, but you really need to walk away from this.
You are being massively used for an ulterior motive .

He really doesn't love you.

Please try to find some support and I'd really recommend starting with your GP.

This is not right at all.

ChocolateCakeYum · 17/08/2022 21:43

He tells me that he is worried about having a son with all the stabbings and gangs. He hopes that his son does not go down that path and if he does, he will try to get him out.

So he’s threatening to run away and take your child abroad before you’ve even had one and you think he’s a good morally sound guy.

You need to leave op, get some self respect and some therapy too.

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:45

You all are right. I'm just in denial. I phone my bf up and told him that I feel used and that I want to move on from the relationship. He told me that if I move on, or he sees me with another guy, then he will kill me. I have to leave safely. I'm going to contact Womens aid.

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 17/08/2022 21:45

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:47

Really? Mental Health issues? I should have posted this on the Relationship boards, they are very honest but no way would they say such things to me.

You'd have been told to get rid there as well.

Flowersintheattic57 · 17/08/2022 21:47

If he was a good man he would show you his goodness by behaving honourably. Talking about how he’s going to be good in the future is just a fantasy. If he gets the visa and marries you , he will carry on beating you even if you are pregnant. And quite possibly he will expect you to carry on supporting him because he will find life too stressful to work.
Just because he is the only man you know doesn’t mean he is the right man for you. He will not make a good husband because he’s a terrible boyfriend.
If he ever threatens you or your family in any way, tell him you will report him and then he will be deported.
Grieve for the relationship you thought you were going to have and do the Freedom Program so you learn to protect yourself from bad men.

JulesCobb · 17/08/2022 21:48

You also need to contact the police.

Frazzledmummy123 · 17/08/2022 21:49

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:45

You all are right. I'm just in denial. I phone my bf up and told him that I feel used and that I want to move on from the relationship. He told me that if I move on, or he sees me with another guy, then he will kill me. I have to leave safely. I'm going to contact Womens aid.

Absolutely call women's aid! You are totally doing the right thing

SunnyD44 · 17/08/2022 21:49

Log his threat with the police on the non- emergency number asap ( I think you can do it online too) and tell him you’ve told them about his threat.

He’s a pathetic little man child and I can guarantee he will not do anything to harm you if he knows you’ll phone them police.

wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 17/08/2022 21:54

Yep... Women's Aid and Police.

This con artist is using you and threatening you to do his bidding.
He is trying to get you pregnant to secure his residency.
That he doesn't have residency after all these years is a massive red flag. He doesn't have work. And hadn't had work.
You have no future at all with him.

He is abusing you in every sense of the word.

Please walk away. Now.