Female Dating Strategy?

[deskdreams]

Has anyone looked at this website / forum / podcast? Its sort of like a female answer to red pill, pick up artist, misogyny. Its certainly seen as quite a toxic online space and the langauge about men is quite grim but at the same time after having a read and listen to what they say I think their is pertient information. I've been unlucky enough to encounter pua and players who pretty ruthlessly target women in dating apps looking for easy sex and they will say and so pretty much anything to get it and will clearly even target women they don't even like much if they think she is likely to put out or they have techniques about how to isolate women and break her so that the women will be submissive to them.

I think its potentially useful to have a guide for inexperienced women (like myself) that helps alert them to this sort of thing although I also did find the misandry and the way they evaluate men to be quite harsh. I did think it was a useful perspective though even if I wouldn't want to take it all on board.

Anyone else looked into it?

I listen to their podcast and follow them on insta. I think more women need to be listening to FDS.

Their "rules" for dating may be seen as a bit extreme, but you can take and leave what you choose. I think women as a whole collectively have low standards for dating/relationships which men are massively benefitting from. Myths such as how we should just accept that all men watch porn and if we want to be equals we need to pay 50/50 for dates are examples of that. It takes a collective effort to raise those standards which is what FDS is ultimately about.

It’s one of the only places where women don’t have to pander to men, I like that.

It’s nothing like RP or other’s you said.

FDS helps women to lift themselves up.
And don’t pretend / gaslight women into believing that most men are good and all that nonsense.

"It takes a collective effort to raise those standards which is what FDS is ultimately about."

Yeah I liked that about it as well, if women don't collectively raise the standard or "entry qualifications" then men will keep on exploiting women who make it easy for them to do so.

@YouAreNotBatman I didn't mean it was like red pill, more that it was like an antidote to that sort of pervasive ideology and behaviour.

I haven’t seen the website or listened to the podcast.

I did look at the subreddit and thought it was awful. Ridiculing men for not earning ‘enough’, whatever that is. Dumping men because they didn’t guess what an appropriate birthday present was. And on and on.

Women should have their own personal standards, yes, but these will be different for everyone. I don’t see (for example) guessing what an appropriate birthday present is as proof that a man is ‘worthy’ of me.

I think a man earning a low wage and being hopeless at buying presents, but who shows he is consistent, caring, mature, hard working, kind etc is a much better person to consider a relationship with.

Hopefully the subreddit was trash and I’ve totally misunderstood what it’s all about, in which case I’m really happy and open to be educated here.

Yes, been a member since the beginning.
It's great for women of all ages to build self-esteem.

Its sometimes incorrectly categorised as a femcel culture. A lot of femcels did go to fds when their subreddit was shut down at the same time as the Incel one (in the name of equality ffs). I love it, listen to the podcast.

The board posts were never the best source of info bevause so much of it was trashing of men recycled over and over and there was a period where moderators started curating it to be more about female confidence raising.

The faq on the board is a better place to go, or the podcast.

I genuinely think in the dating culture today it's a much needed antidote to the relentless casual sex positivity that young women are culturally pressured to adopt.

It is aimed at a younger audience. Myself as a woman in her 40s with kids and dating there were parts which didn't really have any relevance.

I quite like their other podcast 'Female Political Strategy' as well

I think it deals in pretty conservative/traditional stereotypes of men, women, and relationships, which I just don't find very relevant to my own experience.

I'm glad that it helps some women gain the confidence to avoid or leave abusive relationships, though.

I definitely want to work the word "scrotation" into ordinary conversation somehow.

FDS is legit. It’s about prioritizing your own value and self worth. It has ZERO to do with manipulation or conning of any kind.

Maintaining boundaries and expectations is not hateful. Self love and having high standards is not hateful. It is not hurtful to men if a woman has her own wants/ needs and stays true to them. Men are more than welcome to find pick men’s are those with lower standards.

Scrotes stay super pressed and bothered by women who won’t play their game. They are forever worried about strong women who refuse to engage, win them over, or change them. It’s not hateful or even mean to not deal with men who don’t treat you the way you desire to be treated.

MANY are also super put off and afraid of women who can be alone. Who don’t need a mans validation to feel fulfilled. Powerful women are scary to a lot of people.

FDS doesn’t preach trickery, manipulative tactics, or anything but feeling empowered to not feel the need to level down for abusive low value men. If a man doesn’t like it he can go about his day talking to someone who finds him worthy of her time. It literally doesn’t hurt anyone if someone has standards they adhere to.

It is that simple.

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PS society finds it very easy to tell women they need to lower their standards. It’s sick. I hope more young women find FDS so that they don’t find themselves wasting time and energy on LVM who always leech time and confidence.

the wrong bday gift for instance. How much is being disappointed by someone ok? How much disappointment does it take for a woman to finally walk away because she is worth better? Is it one time? 100? That’s up for every woman to decide. However, it is toxic to try to shame and lower one woman’s standards just because they are not inline with your own.

a wrong gift? Personally I could work with that usually. But I’ll NEVER tell another woman that her refusal to work with it is wrong. I support high standards, and the need to be absolutely ruthless in not putting up with BS.

I've seen the subreddit but didn't know that there was a website or podcast. I found the subreddit a bit over the top, but to each her own.

I think a lot of it is a bit tongue in cheek and just taking the piss out of the red pill guys a bit but the basic ideas of FDS are pretty good and very feminist. I'm really enjoying it and finding it a real antidote to the general misogyny I typically encounter online. Its really about having standards and good boundaries and not being a "pick me". I love the advice to ruthlessly evaluate a man before forming an emotional connection to him because so often in the past I did just the reverse, I'd fall for a guy and get emotionally entangled before I realised he was a walking disaster and that he'd bring me nothing but grief!

Stay ruthless. Men are.

FDS does have some great points and advice. It's not just about dating but about being the best version of you and taking good care of yourself and wellbeing. Also you only need to read some of the threads on here to see why FDS has some great points. Especially when it comes to protecting yourself if you decide to start a family, and I think if more women are able to take on the teachings than more men would need to act to a higher standard but of course that's so much easier said than done. Also in regards to marriage and starting a family they have some great points, we see on these threads women who have given their best years to a partner who holds of on marriage or children but when the next woman comes he is married within 2 years with a child.

What is a scrote?
What makes a M LV?

It's an odd mix of femcels, radfems, bratty princesses, jaded cynics and even that rare beast, actual misandrists. Weird, toxic and entertaining.

Scrote is the male equivalent of cunt, i.e. a derogatory, hateful, sexist term.

A low value male is one with low income or low income potential.

@houseonthehill 😂😂😂

From what I’ve read it’s very similar to ‘The Rules’ 90s dating book. It worked for me when I started dating again after divorce. It’s very cut and dried and in that way simple to follow. Weeds out lots of crappy men early on. Lots of women do need to raise the bar higher. Too
many settling for scraps and burying their heads in the sand in crappy relationships

The podcast goes into the way the femcels got mixed up in the FDS subreddit after all the incel and related subs got shutdown. Sure its polemical but at its core is some very good advice for women. I don't fit any of those labels you list and yet I think its a useful resource.

There is a surpirse, a man popping in to laugh at something which increases a womans agency!

It's a fair description of the subreddit.

I got banned from the subreddit coz I dared to say one of them was acting like a spoiled brat. They accused me of being a man. Lol
Very strange women tbh