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I texted the other woman - AIBU about reaction from DH

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LifeDecisions · 14/06/2022 08:20

Married for 16 years, 2 almost grown up kids. Ups and downs in married life, generally in a good place 6 months ago.

Then I noticed a change in DH, a lot quieter and less communicative. He had loads going on at work which was the answer I got when I asked about it.

But the feeling persisted that there was more to it than that, he deleted Messenger & Facebook from his iPad which I quite often use when cooking. After a couple of months of concern I snooped on his phone. My fears seemed to be real, there were messages from a female colleague that looked like there was something going on between them. Nothing specific, but the tone of the messages was more than just colleagues chatting.

I waited and watched to see his behaviour, still not very talkative. I was scared to ask him about this woman - partly because I was afraid of the answer, and partly because I would have to confess to snooping. I eventually plucked the courage to ask if there was anything between him and this woman (saying someone from work had said something). He looked me straight in the eye and denied everything.

Fast forward a month (takes time to build up courage, but also time to decide on what to do. My inner psycho-bitch was close to being released). I confronted DH with a pic of a text I had snooped. New story, colleague was very interested in him, but nothing had happened. And yes he liked the attention. And hadn’t exactly stopped the interest.

Inner psycho-bitch was getting stronger, many crazy options considered; I decided to text ‘the other woman’, TOW as she is on my phone to try and get an answer. One question at a time.


  • What did she want?

  • How long had this been going on? (with a copy of a snooped message)

  • Did she think what she was doing was ok? Lying, being TOW?

  • Did she need help to tell her husband?

It took a few messages, but eventually I got a reply, she said nothing had happened between them, he was a very good friend, that it was just text messages but she realised she had crossed a line and apologised for that.

My final message was that I didn’t really believe nothing had happened based on what I had read, and the line was very much crossed.

Later that day I picked up DH from work. He did not talk to me or look at me. I waited until after dinner - what is the problem?
He looked at me and said I had to stop, stop stalking him and stop harassing TOW.
(I have to confess to also walking past her house the previous evening, no intention of knocking on her door but perhaps spooked her).

Am I off my rocker or is it normal to have more concern for a colleague who is romantically interested in you than for your wife who you have, if not physically then mentally, cheated on?!

Of all the options I considered, the texts I sent were quite within reason (in my opinion). Or have I behaved unreasonably?

I feel like this is point in my life where the road splits and I am not sure which path to take.

OP posts:
BeltnBraces · 14/06/2022 21:25

@Loek, I gather that you would rather keep the cheating rat and not give a toss about the DW, who is most likely completely unaware that her marriage is a sham?
Must look after the feelings of the poor man.
🙄

DontLookBackInAnger1 · 14/06/2022 21:38

BlueKaftan · 14/06/2022 08:34

I think they’re both lying and it’s more than an emotional affair. In any event, You are being gaslighted into believing you’re overreacting. This is what cheaters do. They cheat and then deny it and tell you you’re out of line for questioning them, looking for insights, and basically grieving for what you are losing.

This.

You've done nothing wrong.

I think they're lying too and, even if nothing physical has happened yet, are you happy with the current situation? Is it ok that he walks around moody and ignoring you? That he messages this colleague more than he communicates with you?

If he won't acknowledge, change jobs and accept counselling is needed, then personally, I'd leave him.

Zippy1510 · 14/06/2022 21:45

YANBU- you are allowed to ask a women who is having an affair with your husband about the affair. Mumsnet loves an OW- I often wonder how many of them are on here.

madasawethen · 14/06/2022 22:12

YANBU

Ignore the hoards of gaslighters on here.

Your DH and OW
These manipulators are masters of pathologizing your emotions. They convince you that your emotional reactions to their actions are the problem, rather than what they have done.

BeltnBraces · 14/06/2022 22:25

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ticktickticktickBOOM · 14/06/2022 22:54

Throw him out.

It's done.

Flowers
cushionpillow · 15/06/2022 07:38

Yikes. I wouldn't go physically near her or her home.
But, that's tricky.

user1471538283 · 15/06/2022 09:11

He is upset because you've stopped something he wanted to happen. He is blaming you when he drove this.

Personally I would have done worse and then I'd dump him.

Jakeyachey · 15/06/2022 10:23

user1471538283 · 15/06/2022 09:11

He is upset because you've stopped something he wanted to happen. He is blaming you when he drove this.

Personally I would have done worse and then I'd dump him.

That’s incredibly naive. You can’t possibly think the op stalking the woman has stopped them shagging? Not really?

Orangello · 15/06/2022 12:19

That’s incredibly naive. You can’t possibly think the op stalking the woman has stopped them shagging? Not really?

Probably the opposite. I can just see the DH telling to the colleague: "See? Told you she was crazy!"

savethatkitty · 15/06/2022 12:26

What you've done is perfectly normal & reasonable. I too, messaged the OW just to try & get some straight answers. She ran blabbing to DH that I'd contacted her & he too, took her side, told me I was "stalking" her. Um no. I was just trying to find out the truth & get some answers. Your dh is being a dick because he knows he is in the wrong.

Icecreamqueen32 · 15/06/2022 12:28

BeltnBraces · 14/06/2022 08:47

Tossers not toddlers, although the selfish behaviour is very much the same. 🙄

Comment of the day!😅

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:30

"if not physically then mentally, cheated on?!"

LOL there is no such thing as "mental" or "emotional" cheating. Cheating is physical, plain and simple. Flirting =/= cheating, or else they'd be called the same. And being disengaged from you while also having a female friend is neither flirting nor cheating. Lol leave it to a woman to use terms like that in some pathetic attempt to them the victim. Please grow up, or spend your life alone and miserable because no one wants to put up with your emotional, irrational behavior.

Vapeyvapevape · 15/06/2022 19:37

People can and do have emotional affairs.

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:37

@BeltnBraces he didn't cheat lol, spending time with another woman is not cheating. Yes, his feelings do matter, believe it or not, and if anything he needs to think about leaving her. Lol but of course somehow, somehow this is still the man's fault. LOL and you wonder why women get labelled as "irrational" 😂

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:39

@Vapeyvapevape lol there is no such thing as an emotional affair. An affair/cheating is physical, plain and simple. Flirting =/= cheating, or else they'd be called the same. And being disengaged from you while also having a female friend is neither flirting nor cheating.

Vapeyvapevape · 15/06/2022 19:40

If you say so

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:41

@MrsWooster Lol an "emotional affair" doesn't exist. (you also don't have any proof as to what his actual intentions were so we can't comment on that either way). Cheating is physical, plain and simple. Flirting =/= cheating, or else they'd be called the same. And being disengaged from you while also having a female friend is neither flirting nor cheating. The fact remains she was in the wrong for stalking and acting crazy, he has done nothing wrong.

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:41

@Vapeyvapevape indeed.

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:43

@savethatkitty and what, pray tell, has he specifically done with definitive proof that puts him in the wrong? (lol and no, spending time with a female colleague is not wrong, and ""emotional affairs"" do no exist, so please save yourself the embarrassment of trying to make either of those claims).

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:45

@user1471538283 And what exactly did he want to happen, and what definitive proof do you have of that??

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:46

@BeltnBraces Lol an "emotional affair" doesn't exist.
(you also don't have any proof as to what his actual intentions were so we can't comment on that either way). Cheating is physical, plain and simple. Flirting =/= cheating, or else they'd be called the same. And being disengaged from you while also having a female friend is neither flirting nor cheating.
The fact remains she was in the wrong for stalking and acting crazy, he has done nothing wrong.

DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:48

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DJ212 · 15/06/2022 19:49

@Lovemypeaceandquiet Lol an "emotional affair" doesn't exist.
(you also don't have any proof as to what his actual intentions were so we can't comment on that either way). Cheating is physical, plain and simple. Flirting =/= cheating, or else they'd be called the same. And being disengaged from you while also having a female friend is neither flirting nor cheating.
The fact remains she was in the wrong for stalking and acting crazy, he has done nothing wrong.

SoImpatient80 · 15/06/2022 20:06

@DJ212 Well it would seem Relate would disagree with you

'An emotional affair is that grey area where you know you’re more than just platonic friends with someone outside your relationship. There’s an emotional connection, an intimacy and often an attraction to each other - even if there's no physical or sexual interaction between the two of you.
You’re likely to keep an emotional affair secret from your partner because, deep down, you know they would not be happy about it. When it’s discovered,
you might describe it as just a ‘friendship’. However, just because there’s no sex, it doesn’t mean this relationship with someone else is not as much - if not more - threatening to your partner than a physical affair.'