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New man am i being harsh??

139 replies

Moredogsplease · 10/06/2022 21:12

Hello everyone, could use some majority advice if poss as i have met someone new but so many things in his world are different to mine i just dont know if im lining myself up for problems. Were both early 40s, he has one kid, i have 3. Were only casual right now so no big deal but he is so lovely i cant help thinking forward as to wether id want a relationship in time, if he does, and if i am being judgey and harsh by being surprised by:
No sofa. Very little furniture or belongings really, some nice bits but we sit on cushions on the floor. 8 months in, still the same and he blames the layout, difficult getting it into the upstairs flat. True, but....
No tv. Doesnt watch it. He plays his records when im there or we just talk.
Sober. Vegan. Quite alternative (but not to a dickhead extent)
Seems to dislike responsibility. Bailed on his 2 year old and partner. Said fatherhood absolutely pounded his mental health.
Seemed selfish since he himself was the product of a family where the dad bailed early on and he seemed sad about that but did the same.
Squabbled with his ex saying he should get some of the child maintenance money because of when he has his daughter.
Works freelance and doesnt seem to have much money, refuses to ever work weekends or evenings but moans about not having enough cash.
Doesn't drive, no licence, rides a bike carries a rucksack.

Its given me a bit of the ick because at our age i expect more. He seems maybe selfish? Immature? Hes very intelligent so its not stupidity thats an issue and as a person , one of the nicest, sweetest guys. Sex is pretty good, and he is good looking .

I guess what im asking is would you bother? Or would the above put you off him a bit??? Fully prepared to be slated here!!!

OP posts:
LilyMarshall · 11/06/2022 05:19

I dont think he is alright for now either. He wants money from his child. He is selfish. And the more time you spend with him, the more reluctant you'll be to end things as youll feel invested in it

daisychain01 · 11/06/2022 05:28

beastlyslumber · 10/06/2022 22:44

Raise your standards, OP. How is it "ok for now" - what on earth does he have to commend himself to you? Why waste your time - there are loads of men you could be dating, and nearly all of them will have sofas!

I sigh a thousand sighs when I see everyone pointing out the list of reasons why someone is a complete and utter waste of space (walking away from one's own child is a dealbreaker all of its own, but the general lack of aspiration is pretty unappealing) and then the OP says "oh well, they'll do for now".

Really? Why would you waste precious time on someone who's a dead ender?

the answer is no different from the last time the question was asked.....

MmeMeursault · 11/06/2022 05:37

"Bailed on his 2 year old and partner. Said fatherhood absolutely pounded his mental health."

There's your answer right there.

Pleiades2020 · 11/06/2022 06:29

YoungBritishPissArtist · 10/06/2022 21:24

This OP sounds VERY familiar🤔I’m sure this is a repeat of a thread from a few weeks ago?

Was this the thread?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/4505308-At-40-would-you-expect

I remembered it too. Maybe same man different OP?

AhNowTed · 11/06/2022 06:50

I'm not materialistic or house proud but god no, I couldn't be doing with this.

As a minimum I need a chair 😂

Sunflowergirl1 · 11/06/2022 06:50

@Moredogsplease . Waste of time and you know it really

CandyLeBonBon · 11/06/2022 06:57

I thought I'd read this before as well but maybe there are just a lot of feckless manchildren out there?

I briefly dated one like this. It didn't get any better. The hills are that way >>>>

Beachhutnut · 11/06/2022 07:01

Why would you have any respect for a man who bailed on his kids?

Hurstlandshome · 11/06/2022 07:06

namechangeanonymous · 10/06/2022 21:22

Oh god no, I'm not normally judgey but I have the ick on your behalf.

Me too. Sorry, OP.

Mix56 · 11/06/2022 07:22

Prinnny · 10/06/2022 23:07

Absolutely bloody not. Sitting on the floor with a sober vegan skint deadbeat dad? I’d rather stick pins in my eyes!

😂 I was looking fir a concise "Dump" 2 liner
This says it all

70kid · 11/06/2022 07:44

op posted about this guy in March and was told he is a waster and potentially a cocklodger
all that’s changed is that she’s wasted a further 3 months on him that she will never get back

OP will be back in August posting the same shit saying her ass hurts because she still Sat on pillows on the floor

I mean how many men are very spiritual, vegan and sober.

Doesnt drive. No licence. Travels by bus.

Has no Furniture only pillows

weekends are his time

and a shit father

It’s the no furniture & pillows that would do it for me 😂my ass needs a comfy chair

Axahooxa · 11/06/2022 07:49

You want to be with someone who abandons their partner and child because it’s hard work?

Bailed on his 2 year old and partner. Said fatherhood absolutely pounded his mental health.

And he wants to avoid paying for his ex to look after said abandoned child?

Mumoblue · 11/06/2022 07:50

He ditched his kid and wanted child maintenance money? Ew.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 11/06/2022 08:00

Either keep as a casual FWB
but not relationship material
in any way shape or form

Joy69 · 11/06/2022 08:08

Keep it casual. Nothing wrong with following a different lifestyle, but you may find as time goes by that him not conforming to his idea of society actually translates into hippy soundbites. He may disaprove of working like the majority of us, but will be quite happy to let you support him. The kwerkyness etc will begin to grate.
He needs to man up & support his child, he should be ashamed of himself .

SABM10 · 11/06/2022 08:13

Sorry but he sounds like a generic clone of so many men here in a hipster area of Bristol. Puts on an intellectual, spiritual, moral, free spirit persona but is fundamentally selfish and usually not actually a very nice person under the act. Also usually very mercenary and will attempt to disguise it or shame people into giving them handouts by lecturing about materialism and how others are too focused on money.

I can spot them a mile off but can see how people are initially taken in.

TortugaRumCakeQueen · 11/06/2022 08:24

Bailed on his 2 year old and partner. Said fatherhood absolutely pounded his mental health

If he can't cope with one child that is his own flesh and blood, he is never going to want anything to do with three children that aren't even his. So that's the biggest red flag.

All the other stuff is weird as well - no sofa, no TV, can't drive, no money.....aargh, it's just rubbish, he is basically a man child. There will be no date nights, no foreign holidays, no drunken silly nights.....I'd be bored stiff.

ItWillBeOkHonestly · 11/06/2022 08:49

Some people don't like possessions and if that's their preferred way of living, there's no shame in that. But actually it sounds like this chap here is just being stingy. He's too stingy to buy a sofa, car or to give his ex her full maintenance. If that's the case, stinginess is a really unpleasant trait and defo a red flag.

MzHz · 11/06/2022 08:52

Justmuddlingalong · 10/06/2022 21:14

I've got the ick from here.

I got the ick, waaaay before the end of reading that op @Moredogsplease

DiamondBright · 11/06/2022 08:56

Cocklodger.

thesunwillout · 11/06/2022 09:12

Let me guess, Sagittarius.

bloodyunicorns · 11/06/2022 09:14

He gives me the ink and I've never met him.

You sound incompatible. Most women are past that stage by your age but he seems to be stuck on student mode? And he sounds selfish - couldn't cope with fatherhood?? Diddums. Just as well his ex can cope with motherhood then 🙄

Harrystylestutu · 11/06/2022 09:20

So he does see his daughter if he wants basically payment for when he has her?
did you ever comment on this to him?
don't waste your time.
oh and tell him to get a fucking sofa and PIVOT!

FlibbertyGibbitt · 11/06/2022 10:36

He doesn’t need a sofa now, 10 years down the line it’s a not a good luck trying to get up off the floor 🤣

FlibbertyGibbitt · 11/06/2022 10:37

Look 🙄