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So hurt

104 replies

IcePoppy2 · 01/05/2022 11:31

I have nobody to talk to about this. Me and dp have been arguing this morning, mainly about the kids/house work. Because he realised eventually he was in the wrong, he decided to get personal. He said I’m fat, ugly and scruffy. I should go and look in the mirror to see just how ugly I am. Even if I lose weight, it won’t matter because the damage is done and I’ll end up with loads of saggy skin. Nobody else will find me attractive and if they do they will be desperate. He feels sorry for the next person that would end up on top of me. He wouldn’t leave the house if he looked like me. He looked me up and down and laughed at me. He will have no trouble moving on because he gets lots of looks/flirting when he goes out apparently according to him. This is everything he said to me. How am I meant to get past this? I have never been so hurt. I never, ever said anything personal about him during this argument. I can’t imagine carrying on the relationship after what he’s said. I know that eventually he will apologise and say he didn’t mean it and that he only said to hurt me. But I genuinely can’t imagine ever moving on from his words. My self esteem was already non-existent before this which he knows. He’s gone out somewhere now in a strop. Actually hoping he doesn’t return

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OnlyClothes · 01/05/2022 11:37

You don’t HAVE to get over these words and move on. You can just…..move on.

I’m a bit porky and the last fella I was with loved it.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 01/05/2022 11:38

How vile, I'd get rid of anyone who spoke to me like this, I'd sooner live on benefits than with a man like this.
I'm really sorry you had to hear this OP. I'm pretty sure your self esteem would improve no end without him. Mine certainly did when I got divorced. No decent person would speak to you like this.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 01/05/2022 11:40

This relationship is now well and truly over. You and he should no longer be together. His apology if and when it comes is meaningless, do not fall for it.

What is the situation re finances and property?. How can you be helped into leaving your abuser?.

Please look at the Freedom Programme; this will help you no end in your recovery from his abuse.

YRGAM · 01/05/2022 11:45

Unless there is some immediate, honest and heartfelt remorse from your husband I don't think there is a way back from something like this long term. Sorry to say it but he clearly doesn't love you if he is capable of being so hurtful to you. You would probably save greater pain and heartache later by starting the process now. I'm sorry he was so horrible and I hope you're feeling alright

Watchkeys · 01/05/2022 11:46

Would you be equally insulted if he'd told you that you were a member of an alien race who had invaded the earth to destroy it?

No. You'd think he was a lunatic.

The difference is that you know you're not an alien. You have faith in that. You believe what you think is true, about that.

However, when told you're ugly, you don't believe the part of yourself that says 'No I'm not'

Get away from anybody who gives you the feeling you have now. That's your responsibility in life, to yourself. Then work out what you think of you. Do you think you're too fat for your own preferences? Then lose some weight. Do you think you'd like to be more attractive? Work out what would make you more attractive, in your own eyes, and do that. You're in charge of what you think of you. Anybody else can say what they like about you. If they say things you don't like, they filter themselves out of your life, because you'll walk away.

You're in charge, don't delegate the responsibility for your feelings to someone who can't look after them.

gamerchick · 01/05/2022 11:58

There's no coming back from that, that's appalling behaviour to go on the personal attack because he was wrong.

He has utter contempt for you OP. Even a heartfelt apology couldn't undo that kind of damage. I'm sorry, you must be feeling very hurt.

AntarcticTern · 01/05/2022 12:00

What a nasty prick Sad

AndAsIfByMagic · 01/05/2022 12:04

No coming back from that. Get rid. It will happen again and again and again.

HarmlessChap · 01/05/2022 12:09

That's pretty unforgivable. Verbal cruelty isn't a great deal different to physical cruelty in my book.

Purplecatshopaholic · 01/05/2022 12:09

Wow. He’s just plain nasty. I couldn’t come back from that - how could you ever sleep with him again knowing what he thinks of you. This relationship is over IMO - I would be seeing a lawyer

IcePoppy2 · 01/05/2022 12:11

Thanks everyone. Deep down I know there’s no coming back from it. I don’t think I even want it to. He will say he didn’t mean it, but I’m not stupid. I’d be embarrassed for myself if I stayed with somebody who thought this about me.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 01/05/2022 12:13

gamerchick · 01/05/2022 11:58

There's no coming back from that, that's appalling behaviour to go on the personal attack because he was wrong.

He has utter contempt for you OP. Even a heartfelt apology couldn't undo that kind of damage. I'm sorry, you must be feeling very hurt.

Every word of this. And you’d know he wouldn’t mean an apology even if you got one because he thought it in the first place. He’s revolting. You’ll only start to feel better about yourself if you dump him.

Pollydonia · 01/05/2022 12:13

Absolutely no chance of coming back from that.

GetOffTheTableMabel · 01/05/2022 12:13

@Watchkeys What a wise well-expressed post. I hope OP believes you and not her vindictive partner.

Thesheerrelief · 01/05/2022 12:16

An ex of mine would say whatever he had to in order to "win" any argument, discussion or difference of opinion. He was also incredibly nasty when drunk. Apparently it was my fault for not knowing the difference between the things he meant and the things he didn't mean. The things he said also ramped up over time and it destroyed my feelings for him.

HYT · 01/05/2022 12:20

Time to end your relationship. That behaviour whether he meant it or not, is just totally unacceptable. When he comes back, tell him you want him to move out.

AuntTwacky · 01/05/2022 12:22

LTB

RoyKentsChestHair · 01/05/2022 12:27

IcePoppy2 · 01/05/2022 12:11

Thanks everyone. Deep down I know there’s no coming back from it. I don’t think I even want it to. He will say he didn’t mean it, but I’m not stupid. I’d be embarrassed for myself if I stayed with somebody who thought this about me.

To be honest, the fact that he didn’t mean it is just as bad. It means he deliberately said the most cruel and hurtful things he could think of just to upset you.

My ex used to do this. Thankfully he was never so spiteful about my looks or weight (mainly because he was bigger than me most of the time) but he would pick on other things, tell me I was mental, say it was that time of the month again, told me to get off my arse and get a proper job when I was working for myself at home making a living to support myself and my DCs etc). once he looked me up and down and said “why would I want to marry THAT” with such utter contempt.

He would always apologise the next day and say that he didn’t mean it, he was just angry and lashing out etc.

I put up with it for years, but the truth is he didn’t want to marry me, he did think there was something wrong with me (I’m female and therefore dysfunctional! His parting words were “unless I want to bat for the other side I guess I’ll have to accept a certain amount of crazy” Hmm ) and his pretence that it was all just “heat of the moment” and ‘what people say in arguments’ was bollocks. He had no respect for me and however that came spewing out of his mouth in anger doesn’t really matter.

He was so hurtful that I ended up being like him and trying to think of the most insulting and hurtful things I could say to him in return, so he would know how it felt. But it was water off a ducks back for him. He’d just say it didn’t bother him (but then he’d bring it up to make me feel guilty!)

It’s a really unhealthy dynamic tbh, and a few months ago I’d just had enough of it and told him to fuck off after 9 years together. It’s been tough but I will never again accept a man who makes me feel like shit. Whatever reason your P is using to make such nasty comments to you, the end result is you feel upset and unlovable. That’s not what a partner is for. He should be the one to have your back and make you feel like the sexiest most attractive woman in the world (even if you know you’re not!)

Please don’t accept his verbal abuse of you for one more day. If you’re not ready to leave him then by all means give him a final warning and mean it, if he EVER says anything derogatory about you again he’s out. Of course you’ll argue, but that doesn’t need to get personal, it should be about whatever issue is causing a problem, not about insulting each other to score points. An argument should be about resolving a problem, a collaboration where you both put your views across. It shouldn’t be a fight where one person wins and one loses. And it certainly shouldn’t be a dirty fight where one person comes out broken. You deserve better Flowers

SpindleInTheWind · 01/05/2022 12:32

Oh god I'm so sorry. What a horrible thing he has done to you. You must be so incredibly hurt.

What a foolish, inept, revolting man. He has ruined the relationship with his nasty behaviour, and no apology will put that poison back in the bottle now.

I think it's time for you to start the process of separating, OP. You don't need his permission for this; and you don't need to listen to him bringing you down any more.

Sorry Flowers And good luck.

obsessedwithsleep · 01/05/2022 12:34

I rarely think that something is necessarily relationship ending but in this case, I think that would be it. It's an absolutely disgusting way to treat anyone - let alone the mother of your children.

2pinkginsplease · 01/05/2022 12:37

Our relationship would be over, there is no coming back from what he has said. He would be out the door!

LowlandLucky · 01/05/2022 12:38

Of course your relationship is over, why would you want to continue with it when he has shown just what a vile nasty poor excuse for a man he is ?

SammyScrounge · 01/05/2022 12:41

He says he didn't mean it, that he only said it to hurt you. Actually, it is worse if he didn't mean it. That means he knows your weakness is low self esteem and he deliberately set about destroying it further.
So how is life with him going to be now? Will you be able to undress in the same room as him after his cruel remarks? Will you be able to try on a new dress and ask him if it suits you after what he said? How about being joyfully spontaneous about your sex life?
Being relaxed with him in perfectly ordinary scenarios is now a thing of the past.
You should think very carefully about whether you can forgive his rant or start planning a new future without this bully.

IcePoppy2 · 01/05/2022 12:42

He’s just phoned. No apology, just saying he didn’t mean it😴 and it was to just get at me. He said if he meant what he said he wouldn’t be with me. I got a little upset and tried to explain what his words have done to me and he did one of those disbelief laughs (if you know what I mean) Apparently I pushed him into saying those things because we were arguing. I’m sick of my feelings being diminished and to be expected to let it go because “he didn’t mean it”

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BlimBosh · 01/05/2022 12:43

What a vile man. I could never forgive or forget that.