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My abusive STBXH says he is trans

112 replies

IKJ4 · 15/04/2022 19:27

Hey
I recently left my abusive husband and last week I got a court order for supervised contact only with our daughter who is 2. Yesterday he sent me a voice note in which he came out as trans. I am just so confused as he is never like feminine or shown signs of being uncomfortable and I don't know it makes no sense. He hadn't admitted his abuse to me before but he admitted it and apologised and said that the abuse happened because testosterone doesn't belong in his body which does kinda make sense. He says his drinking problems were down to him feeling depressed as he was in the wrong body. He has lied to me about quite a lot of things before and part of me thinks it is another lie especially as I am only the second person he has told apparently. But I think pretending to be a women like no one would lie about that and it just seems so bizarre and I don't know. I am bissexual and have dated a women before and he says that everything I loved about him won't change when he transitions but all the bad stuff and the abuse will go as its down to the testosterone and his depression at being in the wrong body. I know we should believe trans people and I have never ever doubted anyone coming out as trans before but part of me thinks he is just doing this to try and get me back or as he thinks it will make the courts rethink their decision for some reason. Also I am scared that they will and he won't change and I don't know as they might think now when he becomes a women he will be different and I don't know it just makes no sense and he might still be abusive and he might hurt our daughter and I don't know. But he might genuinely change and it makes no sense and I'm really confused and it makes no sense. I don't know as if he has changed and will become a different person then I don't want to not give him a chance to prove it and I am so confused

OP posts:
BordoisAgain · 16/04/2022 17:04

@roarfeckingroarr

** excellent. An abusive man who will now feel entitled to using Women's spaces.
But that never happens!
AlisonDonut · 16/04/2022 17:57

Look at what he has got you doing OP. Wracking our brain trying to work out if that's why he did this and that.

Why are you spending so much time on this man? You are free. Just keep in it that way. Stop thinking and overthinking and Double thinking about him.

Lookingoutside · 16/04/2022 18:17

He isn’t the first abusive man to “identify as a woman” in order to attempt to cover up or explain away his abuse.

Regardless, men cannot become women and his ‘coming out as a woman’ is meaningless. He can choose which gender to perform but he has still abused you.

Lookingoutside · 16/04/2022 18:18

Also, Google Karen White.

user75 · 16/04/2022 18:20

@334bu

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4236287-trans-widows-escape-committee-5-and-so-it-continues

Post on this thread
.The women here know what you are going through and know just how manipulative these.men can be. Take care.

Post on this thread OP. Wise women indeed
RinklyRomaine · 16/04/2022 18:53

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Lachimolala · 16/04/2022 19:02

He’s talking bollocks, I wouldn’t be so certain this isn’t his last ditch get out of jail free card for court etc.

Abusers abuser because they want to, they make a choice to do so. He chose to abuse you, he cannot identify his way out of this one.

RinklyRomaine · 16/04/2022 19:13

This makes me so mad, OP. Honestly, how can you be falling for this from a proven abuser? He clearly knows how to push your buttons but you need to engage your brain, not your emotions. The internet is filled with literally hundreds of examples of these men duping everyone in their lives. For the very vast majority, it's a massive, abusive grift. Which really harms the wives and children caught up in it. Your DD is young enough to leave this behind, don't pander to it and make it her future.

I deleted the previous post as it mentioned someone who's been through similar but is no longer as public for obvs reasons.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 16/04/2022 20:25

Something to think about
twitter.com/Self_Made_Dan/status/1515053791040708614?t=Zupbe8jvbCgNB2YpvUPkpA&s=19

HearMeSnore · 17/04/2022 08:53

You said he showed no signs of being trans before. Now, when his wife has left him and his access to his child has been formally restricted... he has "come out".
Is this a coincidence? It's convenient timing, isn't it?

You seem to have trouble believing that he would go to these lengths if it wasn't true... but think about it. What lengths has he gone to? Has he actually changed anything about himself? His name? His appearance? Has he told his family? His friends? His employer? He says he will go on HRT "eventually". What does that mean? Next month? Next year? In 10 years? And even if he does, do you think it will magically change his personality overnight?

And take what you know about him from the past- would his past behaviour help you to answer the question "Why would he do this if he wasn't really trans?"

A great many men have done a lot more, and a lot worse, to get their own way.

I don't know the answer to any of these questions but they are questions you must ask yourself, before you consider putting yourself and your child at risk.

Ourlady · 17/04/2022 09:50

He’s bullshitting you OP. Still manipulating you. Please see this for what it is. I hope you have support going through this.

FooFooFloofyFoof · 18/04/2022 00:30

I'm afraid this is the latest script. Abusive men who trans their way out of accepting responsibility for very male patterns of narcissistic and emotional abuse/affairs/gaslighting/. It's yet another way to try to make a frankly offensive excuse that testosterone caused it and if only they had been accepted as a "woman" all they wouldn't have treated you like shit.

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