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DP profiting off our recent split

116 replies

DonnyBurrito · 09/04/2022 07:24

I recently asked DP to leave. We have a son who is almost 8 months old. It's a long story why I asked him to leave, but I was betrayed by him (not cheating or anything to do with another woman). It was the straw that broke the camels back on a certain contentious issue surrounding his family. I've posted about them before, and things have only got worse since then.

I knew he wouldn't be able to afford to get himself somewhere for months and I didn't want to see him on someones sofa, so I decided to offer him sone money so he could rent somewhere immediately. I pay all our bills from a pot we both put an equal amount into, and we pay our rent 12 months in advance, so each month we put our half of the rent into another pot for that. So I had a few thousand in the bank, but it wasn't spare, it was our rent and bills money for the future. I just thought we would scrimp and it would hopefully even out until our next tenancy renewal, and that it was more important we had space from each other ASAP.

So I asked him to work out how much he would need to be able to leave. He said £600. I thought that sounded reasonable if rent was £450 for the month, £100 for bills and then a small food shop as a good will gesture. I didn't ask him any questions about it, I just trusted him and sent it.

So he left. After a few days, we were talking amicably over WhatsApp and he was saying about how he was going to use the time away to work through his issues and wouldn't stop fighting for us, wanted to do couples counselling, etc. I was unsure, but he was saying all the right things and although I was still hurt and angry, I did think we could work things out in the future if what he said was true.

However, he then told me something that made me absolutely furious. He had used the money I had sent him to buy an expensive piece of furniture he genuinely did not need.

He can work from home if he wants and had been doing so at our home on a desk I'd got him. It was a bit small as it had to fit a certain gap in the room, but he worked on it for 10 hours 4 days a week for 2 months during the last Covid wave, so it obviously did the job. I offered it to him to take with him, but he complained it was too small and he also needed somewhere for his TV to go now. He showed me he had just ordered himself a £70 corner desk.

I was shocked and asked him how he could afford that, and why was he using the money I sent him to buy furniture. He said the amount he had asked for wasn't actually for rent and bills, it was just to 'set himself up' and 'get through the rest of the month' (until he got paid in 3 weeks). I asked him how he could justify needing £200 a week when he can work from home. He said he didn't need to justify it to me, and that I didn't get to decide what he does and doesn't need. We don't live in London or anywhere expensive, so £200 a week to live on is a lot and way, way more than he/we had when he was living with us. It turns out the guy he's moved in with hadn't actually asked him for any certain amount, and was helping him out as a favour as he had a spare room.

I told him he'd taken the piss out of me and his son by taking money from us that he didn't actually need, and I would be starting a CSA claim immediately to recoup that money. He said he's just trying to survive a situation I put him in. I feel like he's decided to profit off this situation.

I'm disgusted by what he's done and feel like all hope is lost for this man to rejoin us as a family in the future. He told me I needed counselling as I was reacting so badly to things. I feel like I'm well within my rights to be upset about this, and to suggest I need counselling because of it is very manipulative.

I think I just want to know how this would make other people feel? Is it possible I am actually overreacting to this? I know there's worse things people do. I feel so guilty and sad for my son who clearly loves his dad, but I'm incredibly angry on his behalf that his dad would even think to take a penny he didn't genuinely need from us.

What would you do if you were me?

OP posts:
CloseYourEyesAndSee · 09/04/2022 12:08

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

He’s spent his own money and he’s right you don’t get to dictate to him what he can and cannot spend or what items he’s buying.
No he spent her money
Thisisworsethananticpated · 09/04/2022 12:21

A corner desk for someone who needs a fresh start is not unreasonable actually !
But moving forward try to disconnect totally
He’s an ex now as pp have said

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 09/04/2022 12:26

I think £600 to get rid of him was a good price regardless of if he owed it you as you'd already paid it out in rent

How would that ever work anyway! If you are forever paying a year up front and he already owed for his half of the year he'd never get on top of it

Up to him what he does with the money, I did similar because I wanted him to have somewhere to have the dc.

He chose to spend the money in the pub and move into his mums caravan Hmm not my problem

MsSquiz · 09/04/2022 12:43

@CloseYourEyesAndSee well, no. He spent his money, the money OP gave him.
If she couldn't afford to lose it, she shouldn't have given it to him.
Once you hand over money or a gift, you don't get to dictate how it is spent or used

lonelydad2021 · 09/04/2022 12:49

I think you are right to feel betrayed that he took that money when he didn't need it for rent and food. That money is your safety net. I think you were unreasonable to give hin the money on the first place though.

DonnyBurrito · 09/04/2022 12:58

@WonderfulYou

He doesn't get his half of the rent back, he lived here for four months. He only paid for 4 months.

He only lived with you for 4 months?

Even if that were the case, how is that at all relevant? We've lived together for years, but moved into a new place in December.
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Whatever00 · 09/04/2022 12:58

I think you should count yourself lucky. He has been paying rent and could have refused to leave. He could have made it difficult to get him out and very hostile.

DonnyBurrito · 09/04/2022 13:00

[quote MsSquiz]@CloseYourEyesAndSee well, no. He spent his money, the money OP gave him.
If she couldn't afford to lose it, she shouldn't have given it to him.
Once you hand over money or a gift, you don't get to dictate how it is spent or used[/quote]
Would you have asked for £600 of your partners money you didn't actually need? Again, he already had a desk.

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DonnyBurrito · 09/04/2022 13:02

@Whatever00

I think you should count yourself lucky. He has been paying rent and could have refused to leave. He could have made it difficult to get him out and very hostile.
Yeah, he could have taken my cards and emptied my accounts too. What's your point?
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Sirzy · 09/04/2022 13:15

He isn’t your partner.

You chose to give him money from the account you both contribute too to help him set himself up. You can’t control what he spends that on.

EarringsandLipstick · 09/04/2022 13:30

@DonnyBurrito

Unfortunately as you've realised, your OP was entirely different to the real situation. Hence lots of confusion over the issue.

I'm sorry you find yourself in this situation.

However, I think financially your situation is untenable. (Leaving aside ex)

Firstly, accept it's over. He does not have the capacity to be a reliable parent & father.

Secondly, your anger is misdirected. Sit down & work out your finances. Can you afford to continue living where you are? What are your arrangements for work & childcare?

Thirdly, pursue him for CM.

Finally get good legal advice to protect yourself & start planning your & DC life.

Forget about this money & the table. It's not the real issue

DonnyBurrito · 09/04/2022 14:02

@Sirzy

He isn’t your partner.

You chose to give him money from the account you both contribute too to help him set himself up. You can’t control what he spends that on.

In his mind he wanted us to get back together.

I chose to give him MY money because I didn't want to see my child's father slip further into debt and/or end up on someones sofa getting depressed and miserable, as I know where that leads.

I don't regret giving him the money, I regret letting myself forget how selfish he can be. I should have seen it coming.

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DonnyBurrito · 09/04/2022 14:06

Thank you to those who are trying to help me going forwards, I appreciate the advice. I do have plans in motion.

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MsSquiz · 09/04/2022 14:30

@DonnyBurrito no, I wouldn't when that money could be spent on my child. But I didn't say I agreed with what he chose to spend the money on.
I live by the rule "when someone shows you who they are, believe them"

He takes drugs and has outstanding debts. I wouldn't have given him the money in the first place, but I appreciate why you did.

I also think that when you give money to someone who has seemingly proved you cannot trust them, you can't trust that they will spend it wisely (by your judgement)

As other posters have suggested, have no further contact with him.

7eleven · 09/04/2022 14:36

The dynamic around money seems odd. You talk as if he is a child and you are giving him pocket money.

I think, as he’s left the house, it’s not unreasonable that he’s bought himself an item of furniture to make his life easier.

SandyY2K · 09/04/2022 16:01

Part of the problem is that while you told him to leave, you don't really want it to be over.

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