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Uncertain about future: Husband has said we've lost our spark

118 replies

Karenah86 · 01/04/2022 14:24

So I've been an emotional wreck today and just need some impartial advice. Husband of nearly 5 years, together nearly 10, has been low for a while. He's not very good at talking about his feeling, he bottles them up. But last night I managed to get him to open up about what's been getting him down. He said he's worried about us, feels we've lost our spark, we're stuck in a rut and he's not happy. This came as quite a shock to me. We have a beautiful 14 month old son and I will admit our relationship has changed since having him, but I thought it was just us adjusting to our new roles as parents. Hubby did say he loves me and will always love me, which is something, but I'm just so scared about what this means and what the future holds for us now. My mind has been racing today, thinking what will happen if we can't work things out, what it will mean for our son. I gave up work in January to look after our son Full time, so I'm completely dependent on Husband financially. We've got a beautiful home and I've made some great Mum friends in the area. Just feel like everything is uncertain and up in the air. I'm probably overthinking and jumping to the worst case scenario, I'm just not sure where we go from here or how to get back on track.

OP posts:
ComtesseDeSpair · 01/04/2022 15:08

What does he think you both ought to do about it? Have you agreed to discuss things further?

It doesn’t have to be the end of the relationship, if you both still love each other and want to be together. You acknowledge your relationship has been different / not what it was. If the issue is lack of closeness, you can get things back on track with more couple time so you relate to each other as people rather than just mum and dad; if it’s tiredness and never doing anything which doesn’t revolve around the baby, is part time nursery so you get a break a possibility? A cleaner to take out some of the drudgery?

It’s better you address it now, whilst it’s a relatively new thing, than stick your heads in the sand until it’s five years down the line and you’re both thoroughly miserable and disengaged from each other.

SunflowerTed · 01/04/2022 15:24

Part of the script. I hate to add to your pain but is there another woman waiting in the wings?

Wnikat · 01/04/2022 15:28

His head has been turned. Don’t let him blame you.

Adeleskirts · 01/04/2022 15:32

As you’ve only been out of work a few weeks I think you need to look to get back into it asap. Once he’s started to drip feed in the message it’s only a matter of time, I’m sorry.

picklemewalnuts · 01/04/2022 15:38

If it were me, and I'd read as much MN as I have, I'd push back.

I'd agree with him. I'd say we need a reset so we see each other as adults/partners, not mum and dad. I'd get a chore timetable/rota underway and get back in to work as soon as I could.

A significant amount of the time, it's a bloke pushing you to try harder to make him happy- and nothing you do will be enough. It will go one of two ways- he'll pull his finger out and work at his marriage alongside you, or you'll still split up but you will be in a much stronger position.

Don't do the pick me dance. Either you both work on it, or neither of you do.

needingpeace · 01/04/2022 15:39

Well he’s a selfish arse right? Dump that info on your shoulders!!

Sundancerintherain · 01/04/2022 15:43

Cherchez la femme.........

Eachdaygoesby · 01/04/2022 15:48

@picklemewalnuts

If it were me, and I'd read as much MN as I have, I'd push back.

I'd agree with him. I'd say we need a reset so we see each other as adults/partners, not mum and dad. I'd get a chore timetable/rota underway and get back in to work as soon as I could.

A significant amount of the time, it's a bloke pushing you to try harder to make him happy- and nothing you do will be enough. It will go one of two ways- he'll pull his finger out and work at his marriage alongside you, or you'll still split up but you will be in a much stronger position.

Don't do the pick me dance. Either you both work on it, or neither of you do.

^^ This is really great advice!

I'm afraid your dh sounds very immature op. Don't start doubting yourself. Of course your relationship is going to change after having children! What on earth did he expect? By all means you should try and make time for one another, but in the early days, the focus should rightly be on your son. I am so sick of these men who only think "me, me me".

Karenah86 · 01/04/2022 21:27

Thanks everyone for your replies. There's definitely no other woman but I get why that would be people's first suspicions. We talked some more tonight but I'm still quite confused and at a loss as to where we go next. I asked if he wants to make things work and he said 'I think so.' Not quite the affirmative answer I was after! He thinks he's the problem - he's unhappy and therefore isn't making me happy. But he doesn't know what we can do to help him be happy again. He said he is still in love with me and that he'll always be in my life because of our son. It seems in one breath he's talking like we should separate, but in the next it's like he wants to make things work. Can you see why I'm confused!

OP posts:
Adeleskirts · 01/04/2022 21:34

No not really op, he’s been very clear it’s over he’s just trying to soften it, I’m sorry, and yes clearly there is someone else.

I hope it works out for you and I’m sorry you’re going through this.

Eachdaygoesby · 02/04/2022 00:26

@Karenah86

Thanks everyone for your replies. There's definitely no other woman but I get why that would be people's first suspicions. We talked some more tonight but I'm still quite confused and at a loss as to where we go next. I asked if he wants to make things work and he said 'I think so.' Not quite the affirmative answer I was after! He thinks he's the problem - he's unhappy and therefore isn't making me happy. But he doesn't know what we can do to help him be happy again. He said he is still in love with me and that he'll always be in my life because of our son. It seems in one breath he's talking like we should separate, but in the next it's like he wants to make things work. Can you see why I'm confused!
This really isn't acceptable behaviour op. Of course, everyone can become confused about a relationship but any decent person keeps that to themselves until they've figured out what's wrong. Once you have done that, you can then discuss genuine issues with your other half and try and work it out, or it's too hard and you can't but at least you've tried.

What you can't do is jump about from one position to another, confusing the other person and not being clear about whether you want to stay in the relationship or not. He is being confusing because he's already decided he wants out but can't say that straightforwardly because he is afraid of hurting you, or he doesn't want to look like the bad guy or there is another woman on the scene. Sorry if that sounds harsh because I know this must be hellish for you Flowers

I wouldn't be allowing him to second guess me with that "he's unhappy therefore isn't making me happy" clap trap either. Sorry but that is very manipulative because:

  1. You a grown woman who knows their own mind and you don't need a man to tell you whether you are unhappy or not.
  1. If he's that unhappy then he should just say it and leave for his own sake rather than making out that he is "too honourable" to stay because he's making you unhappy. That's bull, sorry!

In your shoes I would be taking the initiative here and taking back some of the power. Why is it only him who gets to decide what happens in your relationship? If a man said "I think so" to me I would be packing a bag for him and asking him to leave until he was clear in his own mind.

You are worth more than this op! You need to grey rock this one. Find some anger. Just tell him you've thought about things overnight and he's right, and you'd like some space.

It will be hard but don't allow any more discussion, certainly do not plead, don't show any upset in the morning, just insist that he goes away until he either comes running back or he doesn't. But he doesn't get to stay and enjoy home comforts and experience all the benefits of marriage while making you feel crap.

None of us are perfect, but ime too many women in these situations automatically jump to the default position that somehow they must be to blame. This is usually utter bs! Men imho very rarely indulge in such introspection or genuine self examination about how they could be doing better. I know that's a massive generalisation, but I've seen it so many times.

Keep strong op Flowers

Antarcticant · 02/04/2022 00:30

@Sundancerintherain

Cherchez la femme.........
Yes.
Nsky · 02/04/2022 00:41

Is he depressed?
He needs to decide what he wants, as do you

urbanbuddha · 02/04/2022 00:43

I asked if he wants to make things work and he said 'I think so.' Not quite the affirmative answer I was after!

Hope you told him so, and that that isn't good enough for you. You want him to commit to the marriage.

He thinks he's the problem - he's unhappy and therefore isn't making me happy.

Agree with others, that's bullshit.

But he doesn't know what we can do to help him be happy again.

Arrange counselling for the marriage problems. If he wants to make it work he'll agree. If he thinks he might have depression he needs to see his GP.

Geppili · 02/04/2022 00:56

Op why are you so certain that there could not be an OW or an EA?

Geppili · 02/04/2022 00:56

And how is your sex life?

CrowUpNorth · 02/04/2022 01:02

Counselling and finding a babysitter so you can have couple time. See if the spark is still there.

GiantHaystacks2021 · 02/04/2022 01:11

He's had his head turned.
Go back to work, set up a rota for childcare so he does his fair share. Get a cleaner.
Tell him he can move out if that's what he wants but you do not leave the home.

PlainJaneEyre · 02/04/2022 01:26

I'm not liking the he will always love you and that he will always be in your life - he's already made his plans. He just didn't tell you about them and they don't involve you.

HellToTheNope · 02/04/2022 01:30

There's definitely no other woman

I'm sorry, op, but you are in total denial. Every single thing coming out of his mouth is textbook Script. Every. Single. Thing.

MrsPetty · 02/04/2022 01:56

Sadly OP it does sound as if he’s moved on in his head if he’s saying ‘I’ll always be in your life’. My exH changed as soon as soon as our first dc was born. By the time dc2 arrived it was all over. We attended marriage counselling but he wasn’t in love with a Mummy. He was in love with a footloose, fancy free woman and the thrill of the chase…

Onthedunes · 02/04/2022 01:58

Just ask him who she is .....

HellToTheNope · 02/04/2022 02:04

@Onthedunes

Just ask him who she is .....
Yes, and ask him to at least respect you enough to not insult your intelligence.
dipdye · 02/04/2022 02:25

I'd be going back to work, pronto.

You obviously cannot rely on him at all.

blisstwins · 02/04/2022 02:40

He is a twat and this is the script, especially concerning because of the I can’t make you happy bullshit. He is weak and lame and you should call his bluff. He is full of it.

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