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Needing support for those days after first finding out about husband's infidelity

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Sazdun · 27/03/2022 18:05

Okay third time lucky. Unfortunately some of you will have followed what happened to me yesterday and finding out my husband of 8 years was unfaithful. There have been super kind people who have reached out and from the bottom of my heart I thank you. I wish j could buy each of you a well deserved wine or chocolates. I still can't find it in me to reach out to my IRL friends or find the words but I am meeting my friend tomorrow and lets hope I can by then. My original thread has been put up so I can get some of the helpful info people posted but no more replies can be made. My follow up thread has since been deleted because it is a thread about a thread. I did not know this is not something you are supposed to do. Anyway I have started this to keep anyone who is helping me stay updated or for anyone going through the horrible or similar same thing to get some helpful advice. Some people have questioned if I am infact real. I am. I am a 38 year old mum of two who has been with her husband since she was 23. I was concerned about his relationship with another woman but while I came on here yesterday thinking I would get feedback on how to approach my feelings and deal with my husband, I got angry and stood up for myself. I never ever thought it would lead to this. So if you doubt me or what to pull every little thing I type please don't, predictive text is a bitch. This is my life, my girls lives and I just need support and help.

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stayathomegardener · 30/03/2022 22:06

Whitby is so lovely, just the spot to blast the cobwebs away and try to forget for a short time.

Fraaahnces · 30/03/2022 22:54

Great plan re the Whiskey, but surely selling them is better. (Bet he buys them from you.)

Cassandrainthenight · 30/03/2022 23:04

I've read both threads and I am really sorry OP.

Your H really sounds like he wants defacto at least an emotional threesome or some kind of polyamourous relationship. He calls it friendship but in reality it has been playing out as a threesome, and I am disgusted he wrote about how the idea of not having her in his life "hurts so much" to you when you are hurting how much?!

It also really leapt out at me how he's going on about how you smile, you don't get broken or something to that effect and how he loves you for it, he says all you need to do is be yourself, but actually very specifically describes the optimal (for him) version of you, who shakes herself off and powers on, who can withstand any suffering(maybe he feels more guilty if he lets himself think of you as weak or broken), if you are that unbreakable and sunny, OP, it's not as much of a big deal to break you a little bit compared to someone who is "truly" vulnerable (like OW Angry)

To be honest I could see how your friends are not as angry with OW as with H, my first husband had an affair and I knew he fell for someone and I was 100% sure it was a phase and it was purely emotional and he'd work his way out of it (because I had been there myself). Well even though he met the OW when I was 6 weeks pregnant with my 3rd, he managed to convince her that we had lived like brother and sister for years, and because I didn't want sex I "didn't mind" that they were doing it. Confused
We were in our mid-late 20s, we had sex most days! Throughout his affair as well... OW was 3 years older with kids of her own, and she had left her H because he cheated with his PA! So you'd think she wouldn't buy it, but there are situations where people would believe the most ridiculous shit because it aligns with their true wishes.

Anyway, we came across each other in some clubs and music venues (ex was a musican and she was too), and twice even found ourselves at the same table at a dinner party, and she always gave me these weird pitiful and guilty looks. My ex was Catholic too, and I was absolutely sure that he wouldn't actually go through with physically cheating, and I believed him when he implied it was an infatuation.

Anyway, it went on for 18 months, and then by accident I found out that he had lied to me about something completely unconnected but significant. Only then it struck me that if he did lie to me about that, he could have lied about other things, and I actually found out the OW's number, rang her and asked if they had ever slept together.
To say that she was stunned is a big understatement. She even hinted that she had a miscarriage from him...to cut a long story short, I wasn't even that angry with her, I chucked him out, but even though you can see he didn't come across well in this story the first thing he pleaded was that he was cutting her out of his life and would never see her again (and followed through)

I couldn't stay with him after that anyway, also discovered that EVERYBODY knew, except me....it's been over 15 years now and water under the bridge, we are like distant relatives now, relatively friendly. We didn't co-parent though, once I left he eventually re-married and had more kids, and I emigrated...

Mulhollandmagoo · 30/03/2022 23:19

I agree with @kaleidoscope123 have an amazing time, but be wary of drunk texting/calling anyone.

Oh, and your husband is a prick! Reading his messages made me a bit ill, not once has he mentioned you, asked if you're ok, or what he can do to make it up to you! He's 'sweet talking' in an attempt to sweep you off your feet, his words are all style over substance, of he was serious, the first thing he would have said, is that he'll block her number and cut contact with her immediately....he didn't, he has to 'explore why he is finding that difficult' what a prick!

thethreemuskateers · 30/03/2022 23:27

My heart goes out to you, it’s a double betrayal and you just can’t understand why when you’ve been such a good friend to her she would do this to you.

My advise would be to take each day as it comes, I was in a similar situation a very good friend living next door to me for 10 years, no family close by. Very little friends, I felt sorry for her. Over the years baby sat, lent her clothes, introduced her to my friends. She splits with her partner in 2020, over the next few months by partner feels sorry for her, starts doing odd jobs. I help out and help her through her break up. He takes up smoking and starts spending more and more time with her. We have her in our home Christmas and New Year. She calls herself out youngest sons 2nd Mam.

I don’t suspect anything, she’s very plain and boring. He talks about how crazy her kids are and need help.We split up in 2021 as he’s drinking more, not doing his fair share. After 2 days I ask him to come home. He tells me he doesn’t love me.

I spend the next 7 weeks heartbroken she’s very distant at first. Then she starts helping me more, taking my son to the park, cooking we go on night out.

Then she starts going out for 5am walks leaving her kids at home asleep.He takes his Dad at work the same time. They are on what’s app the same time. I hear her playing songs he likes through the wall. I challenge him and he says it’s all in my head.

Then I finally find hotel searches etc on his google account, which I still had access to. He admitted they got on well, sorry it was close to home. Will be easy as the kids already know her.

How anyone can look you in the eye while they are doing that with your husband is disgusting. It’s the gaslighting that hurts like hell. I suspect my ex neighbour now thank goodness has a personality disorder, always been a strange character not many friends bit of loner. She did befriend one neighbour but her behaviour was strange and obsessive.

Just the day before my discovery she asked did I want to go on a Spa Day!

You will heal in time, I would recommend counselling. My oldest son has disowned his Dad for his crappy behaviour.

They show no remorse. She now has cancer and although I wouldn’t wish it on anyone the one thing I hope is that her illness makes her realise what an awful person she is.

There will never me any trust and I’ve no doubt my ex will move on to someone else soon enough.

I was so busy looking after a toddler I just assumed we had drifted apart in lockdown.
A year on I can honestly say I’m the happiest I’ve been in a long time.

I haven’t rushed out to meet anyone and put my kids first. Sending love 💓

Fraaahnces · 31/03/2022 00:40

I keep thinking about his word salad… It’s basically instructions about how he intends to remain unaffected by you - so if you want to be in a relationship with him, make no demands of him… show no emotions of your own… be strong and independent…. require nothing from him.

Get a pot plant or a puppy. Guaranteed you’d get more satisfaction and they’d be more faithful.

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Billlius · 31/03/2022 08:34

Let’s hope the Daily Fail or The Bum don’t pick this up. It wouldn’t be the first time that they’ve splashed someone’s life all over the tabloids.

Billlius · 31/03/2022 08:37

“When is an affair not an affair? Husband admits to being faithful throughout his marriage but once had a fling with someone he knows.” Jan Moir dissects the world of emotional affairs.

Billlius · 31/03/2022 08:38

Or would Sarah Vine be better?

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ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 31/03/2022 09:37

@Sazdun

That's it sorted. H is going to cousins with girls. I'm off to Whitby to get pissed, we have decided to make a weekend of it as it means H can stay there the weekend.
Where are you staying? Make sure you go to Harry's Bar while there. The Moon and Sixpence isn't as good now new people took over. There's a newish bar in what was previously the public toilet which does decent cocktails.
youvegottenminuteslynn · 31/03/2022 10:05

I don't think OP should share specifics about where she's staying on a public forum. Especially as threads are often picked up by press and are easily identifying especially with so much detail.

Itsthemaybelline · 31/03/2022 10:43

My post was giving a reason why the OP IS genuine, but hey ho MN.

SummerWhisper · 31/03/2022 16:16

@Sazdun, aside from his rambling messages, has there been any meaningful contact about looking after the children, finances, the house, etc. and importantly that you should sit down and talk? If not, I suspect he will be laying low until OW is back from her honeymoon and they can meet face-to-face to discuss what to do next. In other words, is he avoiding making a decision (cutting her out of his life) until he is clear what she wants? A further kick while you are down if this is the case. I really hope you can see the truth of him. Flowers

kaleidoscope123 · 31/03/2022 16:22

I would be thinking of some questions at the moment to ask bf while you are away, when people are drunk they open up and and she may be more willing to say things that she was keeping to herself to be diplomatic / not get in the middle. I’d also set the scene that you don’t want her to get in the middle of this but if there’s another way she knows that you can find out the truth yourself (letters between them, people at their work etc).

Asking more about what happened ahead of the wedding, was it a full on affair over a few weeks and what they actually got up to. Whether OW distanced and fell out with him before the talk with his cousin (her Husband) or after. Ultimately was it husbands choice to pick you ahead of her at the wedding or had she already shown him the door?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 31/03/2022 16:50

@youvegottenminuteslynn

I don't think OP should share specifics about where she's staying on a public forum. Especially as threads are often picked up by press and are easily identifying especially with so much detail.
I wasn't expecting the Airbnb address, just east or west cliff would have done!
getmeouttahere2019 · 31/03/2022 17:12

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getmeouttahere2019 · 31/03/2022 17:15

I'm so Sorry I meant to post this on my own thread.... I've reported it so it should be taken down hopefully Shock

beastlyslumber · 31/03/2022 17:38

How has today been, OP?

Sazdun · 31/03/2022 18:08

Hi all. Had to be strict with myself and keep phone away today to get stuck into this house. Tidy up has helped which sounds so daft but makes me feel I am a bit more on top of things. Hoping friend will open up or at least give more details while we are away. Not sure exactly where the caravan site is actually. Whitby Bay and a caravan site is about as much as I know.
Starting making a list of things I need to find out /do for future planning incase they come into my head. Love a list and spreadsheet so planning for divorce, temp.split return. I am also thinking about transferring some money that I inherited and was in joint house fund out and putting it in a stocks and shares ISA incase we do get back together but I have some exit money. Need to.do that today though so I can put more in next financial year. Though not sure if that is just a sign of me being on my way out.
H has text everyday asking out girls and dog. Been round in evening to walk dog but just pop them out in the garden for him to get. Have also said he can come in at weekend to get more of his things/wash clothes if needed but not to be there when I get back. In my head I have made next weekend the time I will set aside to meet him and chat as DD1 is at a birthday party but I will tell him very last minute so he doesn't have the chance to write a short story for me in preparation.

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CrazyRatLover · 31/03/2022 18:21

Glad that you've had a productive day, must be really hard though. Do you think he'll stay in your house whilst you're away?

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 31/03/2022 18:36

When is OW back from her honeymoon?

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