What do men actually find attractive about women?

[kellyspark]

After being divorced after a long marriage (adultery, his) I have started to cotton onto the fact that a lot of men like certain attributes about women that are quite surprising to me.
In a sporting hobby, some men have shown interest in me - flirting - but I wasn't ready for dating, so have treated them more like mates. This seems to have increased their attention, so I infer that they either like the chase, or they cannot figure out why I'm not flirting back and want to find out why I'm not.
Another thing seems to be that men don't automatically go for the most glamourous looking woman in a group. I'm still trying to figure that one out, but wondering if men worry about women being 'high maintenance' or maybe they think glam women are out of their league?

[quote Anothergreatday]@Hrpuffnstuff1.
On three occasions I asked you whether you believe men and women, although different are equals . Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships ?

I asked because many of your posts have been extremely sexist and have generalised about women and about women different countries . You have admitted to being married ( she’s Baltic I brlirve you mentioned Seven or eight times) but having a ‘ woman who got away ‘ yoh seem to have a lot of stereotypes especially about English women
Yet you simply won’t answer? Strange[/quote]
I haven't answered because it's off topic and not related to the op at all.

@Hrpuffnstuff1

That didn’t seem to bother you when you came on constantly mentioning your wife’s nationality , the one that got away and how English woman are apparently a certain way
And btw it’s not off topic at all , you’re second and mysogyny accounts for your views and are extremely transparent
No need to answer really ad no answer IS an answer
Besides your comments about women show you most certainly do not see us as equals

*your sexism and mysogyny

Plenty negative to say about women but can’t bring yourself to say they are equals and have the same rights. ?

Who cares what they like.

They’re lucky that we bother with them at all to be honest!

IF I have a shit about their desires, which I don’t, I would say from experience they like confidence, quick wit / sense of humour and long hair. But that’s only the ones who liked me.

I imagine they like all sorts, because they are individuals.

[quote Anothergreatday]@Hrpuffnstuff1

That didn’t seem to bother you when you came on constantly mentioning your wife’s nationality , the one that got away and how English woman are apparently a certain way
And btw it’s not off topic at all , you’re second and mysogyny accounts for your views and are extremely transparent
No need to answer really ad no answer IS an answer
Besides your comments about women show you most certainly do not see us as equals[/quote]
@Anothergreatday Perhaps he’s a charming guy who just has this one peccadillo of posting as his alter ego on mumsnet, but as you say (I paraphrase), the small man energy emanating from his posts tells you everything you need to know.

Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?

Can you name a law which gives men an advantage over women in the workplace, in the home, or in relationships?

@greasyshoes

Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?

Can you name a law which gives men an advantage over women in the workplace, in the home, or in relationships?

Can you think of a law that allows people to be murdered? Can you think of a law that allows mugging? Or shoplifting? Or burglary? Do you see where I'm going... ?

It's astonishing in the last few years how many women-hating men want to hang out on MN all day.
I don't get it
And going back to a previous subject I agree yes, dick size matters a lot.
Luckily I have never had a tiny one, but I've encountered a few nice big ones (not porn star big) and I do worry about encountering a small one on a guy I actually like. I don't think long term (or even short term) that would work for me.

Can you think of a law that allows people to be murdered? Can you think of a law that allows mugging? Or shoplifting? Or burglary? Do you see where I'm going... ?

No, I don't.

The question was, "Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?"

So please inform me, which laws treat women unfairly in the workplace, or in the home, or in relationships?

@greasyshoes

Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?

Can you name a law which gives men an advantage over women in the workplace, in the home, or in relationships?

Laws arnt a reflection of discrimination . Disvimination and historical patterns continue Also has zero to do with one of the posters here believing women ARE equals Can you name a country where men do close to half the childcare and unpaid labour as women Or a country where women are not domestically abused in far greater numbers than men

@greasyshoes
You can’t see where that was going because e you clearly don’t think a lot about the things women face that men don’t
Sexual harassment from men on much huger number than the other way around
Spousal murder rates also much much higher from men to women
Domestic abuse
Men still holding the vast majority of top positions in top companies
Women doing the lions share of unpaid childcare and housework even when working outside the home
The list goes on

@Palmfrond
‘ @Anothergreatday Perhaps he’s a charming guy who just has this one peccadillo of posting as his alter ego on mumsnet, but as you say (I paraphrase), the small man energy emanating from his posts tells you everything you need to know.’

Yes agree . Not really worth time with someone who holds those small man energies

Not going to get in any arguments about tits etc.
So I asked DH what attracted him to me and his reply was "Your legs. And with you there was no drama, no ishooos. And you became my best friend. We were easy".

Boobs? Or some men are 'ass men' I guess.

@greasyshoes

Can you think of a law that allows people to be murdered? Can you think of a law that allows mugging? Or shoplifting? Or burglary? Do you see where I'm going... ?

No, I don't.

The question was, "Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?"

So please inform me, which laws treat women unfairly in the workplace, or in the home, or in relationships?

OK. Well I had tried to keep it as simple as possible and address the most obvious flaw in what your post implied. My point being that the absence of a specific law allowing something, does not prevent it happening. I'm fairly certain no one on this thread wants to read a post where i explain indirect discrimination to you. Most of them seem smart people who will be familiar with the concept already. And you can look it up. If you want to start with the workplace, you might want to Google the disproportionate impact on women of laws relating to zero hours and fixed term contracts. Moving on, you might find research on the way benefits legislation disadvantages women in the home enlightening. If you still have the appetite for it, look into how effective the law proves to be in preventing women being assaulted, abused, raped and murdered within their relationships. Then perhaps you can come back here and tell women that they've interpreted their lived experience incorrectly, and their disadvantage is all in their minds.

@5128gap

Yes exactly . It seems that greasy things laws equal reality
In that case we would be living in a world where no one speeds in their cars , no one drink drives , no one rapes , murders or assaults !
That’s not reality . Laws only exist to punish perpetrators IF and when they are caught breaking them

@greasyshoes

Can you think of a law that allows people to be murdered? Can you think of a law that allows mugging? Or shoplifting? Or burglary? Do you see where I'm going... ?

No, I don't.

The question was, "Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?"

So please inform me, which laws treat women unfairly in the workplace, or in the home, or in relationships?

You just can't argue with stupid.....

[quote Anothergreatday]@Palmfrond
‘ @Anothergreatday Perhaps he’s a charming guy who just has this one peccadillo of posting as his alter ego on mumsnet, but as you say (I paraphrase), the small man energy emanating from his posts tells you everything you need to know.’

Yes agree . Not really worth time with someone who holds those small man energies[/quote]
The preccadillo is an amusing thought. Like a reverse superhero. By day, a charming, self affacing gentle man, fully committed to supporting womankind. But come nightfall, a few tins of stella, out comes the keyboard, and Mr Woke becomes Mr Bloke!

@greasyshoes

Can you think of a law that allows people to be murdered? Can you think of a law that allows mugging? Or shoplifting? Or burglary? Do you see where I'm going... ?

No, I don't.

The question was, "Should women have the same rights in the workplace , home and relationships?"

So please inform me, which laws treat women unfairly in the workplace, or in the home, or in relationships?

Also the question was asking Hrs opinion of the Whether they SHOULD have those rights I am at a loss how @greasyshoes thinks asking what laws exists have any relevance to someone opinions on equality It’s the same as if someone asked an opinion on whether Another person thinks animals should be treated humanely and then I come back and say there are laws against animal cruelty The laws against animal cruelty Have ZERO to do with someone’s personal opinion and most certainly do not mean it doesn’t mean animal cruelty doesn’t exist ( sadly ). Not everyone agrees with laws . Not everyone follows laws !

Once again it’s basic deconstruction and understand of English and critical thinking skills Something that comes from reading

My point being that the absence of a specific law allowing something, does not prevent it happening.

The word "rights" refers to laws. When people demand "rights", they are asking for legislation at the government level.

I'm fairly certain no one on this thread wants to read a post where i explain indirect discrimination to you. Most of them seem smart people who will be familiar with the concept already. And you can look it up. If you want to start with the workplace, you might want to Google the disproportionate impact on women of laws relating to zero hours and fixed term contracts. Moving on, you might find research on the way benefits legislation disadvantages women in the home enlightening. If you still have the appetite for it, look into how effective the law proves to be in preventing women being assaulted, abused, raped and murdered within their relationships.

You have given examples of the law being broken. The law being broken doesn't mean women don't have the same rights as men.

If you think women are being screwed over because of their circumstances, then your problem lies with social factors, not rights.

Women doing the lions share of unpaid childcare and housework even when working outside the home

I mean, this has absolutely nothing to do with "rights". This is strictly an interpersonal issue, a problem with an arrangement between two adults.

This is not something to complain about in the public domain. It's up to you to split domestic tasks in a way with your significant other that you feel is fair. If your significant other refuses to engage, then you have the option to disconnect from the relationship and to seek an alternative partner.

@greasyshoes

My point being that the absence of a specific law allowing something, does not prevent it happening.

The word "rights" refers to laws. When people demand "rights", they are asking for legislation at the government level.

I'm fairly certain no one on this thread wants to read a post where i explain indirect discrimination to you. Most of them seem smart people who will be familiar with the concept already. And you can look it up. If you want to start with the workplace, you might want to Google the disproportionate impact on women of laws relating to zero hours and fixed term contracts. Moving on, you might find research on the way benefits legislation disadvantages women in the home enlightening. If you still have the appetite for it, look into how effective the law proves to be in preventing women being assaulted, abused, raped and murdered within their relationships.

You have given examples of the law being broken. The law being broken doesn't mean women don't have the same rights as men.

If you think women are being screwed over because of their circumstances, then your problem lies with social factors, not rights.

My first two examples were not of laws being broken. They are examples of the ways in which laws that exist, when correctly applied and adhered to disadvantage women,

My first two examples were not of laws being broken. They are examples of the ways in which laws that exist, when correctly applied and adhered to disadvantage women,

As I explained in my previous comment, your issue lies with social factors, not rights.

@greasyshoes

My point being that the absence of a specific law allowing something, does not prevent it happening.

The word "rights" refers to laws. When people demand "rights", they are asking for legislation at the government level.

I'm fairly certain no one on this thread wants to read a post where i explain indirect discrimination to you. Most of them seem smart people who will be familiar with the concept already. And you can look it up. If you want to start with the workplace, you might want to Google the disproportionate impact on women of laws relating to zero hours and fixed term contracts. Moving on, you might find research on the way benefits legislation disadvantages women in the home enlightening. If you still have the appetite for it, look into how effective the law proves to be in preventing women being assaulted, abused, raped and murdered within their relationships.

You have given examples of the law being broken. The law being broken doesn't mean women don't have the same rights as men.

If you think women are being screwed over because of their circumstances, then your problem lies with social factors, not rights.

Once again he question WAS not about whether rights exist . It’s about whether hr believes they should and that women are equals Once again you have failed to interpret questions and taken a completely different slant Yes social factors lead to the discrimination that women experience NOW the question is does hr believe women are equal and should have the same rights P