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He's looked at porn again

103 replies

amiafreakofnature · 07/02/2022 19:18

He promised me the last time it wouldn't happen again.
He doesn't seem to make any sexual effort with us and the marriage has been mainly sexless for the last 15 years .
I need to leave don't I?

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DoubleChinWoes2 · 07/02/2022 19:19

I wouldn't leave for watching porn necessarily, it's not a deal breaker for me but not being sexual with your wife favour of porn is a reason to leave, I agree with you.

Find someone who makes you feel wanted and sexually connected. It's so important.

amiafreakofnature · 07/02/2022 21:00

Bump for any more advice
I feel so low tonight

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HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 07/02/2022 21:54

I don’t think the occasional porn thing would bother me as much as 15 years sexless,
That’s what you need to think about, why is sexless, you or him with the issue, or is porn addiction the issue?

Opentooffers · 07/02/2022 22:02

2 reasons to dump a guy who's being affected by porn ( some are, some aren't so much). 1 is watching it in preference to real life sex, the other is having a sex technique copied from it - because in real life women don't like it 'done to them' as in porn, it's a joint paticipTion effort, that hopefully has some thought for the others needs

Imperialmints · 07/02/2022 22:09

If he is breaking promises and not making any effort with you, then yes you need to leave. He will only keep on making you feel invalidated by not offering you the intimacy of a full relationship that you clearly want. That most people in couples want.

Prioritising having a wank over the feelings of your partner who (presumably?) wants sex and intimacy isn't great.

Now you know he's gone back on his word, you'll alway be second guessing him and yourself. Broken trust is a hard thing to come back from.

TheFoundation · 07/02/2022 23:22

He made a promise and broke it. You can't trust him.

Yes, you need to leave. It'll give you some self respect to leave him, knowing it's the best thing for you.

ALargeGlassofMalbecPlease · 07/02/2022 23:26

So is it either watching porn or having sex? Is porn the reason you don't have sex anymore or you just don't want him to watch it? I mean why did he have to promise he wouldn't watch any more porn? Would it make your sex life any better? Or is it the case that he watches pork because you guys don't have sec. Sorry, just trying to understand.

Bakewelltart987 · 07/02/2022 23:27

Leave him for watching porn?

If you are thinking of leaving there has to be more to it than watching porn and your using this as your reason.

How about both of you try to make more effort in the bedroom. Book a romantic weekend away or something.

13yearslater · 07/02/2022 23:46

@ALargeGlassofMalbecPlease

So is it either watching porn or having sex? Is porn the reason you don't have sex anymore or you just don't want him to watch it? I mean why did he have to promise he wouldn't watch any more porn? Would it make your sex life any better? Or is it the case that he watches pork because you guys don't have sec. Sorry, just trying to understand.
Malbec PigPorn? (wanders off to google, clutching tequila with a drizzle of triple sec)
Anothergreatday · 07/02/2022 23:48

@Bakewelltart987

Leave him for watching porn?

If you are thinking of leaving there has to be more to it than watching porn and your using this as your reason.

How about both of you try to make more effort in the bedroom. Book a romantic weekend away or something.

Why does there have to be more of a reason than her being rejected in favour of other women in porn And why does she need to be the one to make all the effort
Anothergreatday · 07/02/2022 23:52

He’s the one lying about pirn qbd he’s the one making no effort
I don’t understand why on earth someone thinks lying is ok ( and that it’s only porn lying lol - that’s a big deal to many women ) and I don’t understand why the man making no effect means the woman is told to make more effort

Confused

ALargeGlassofMalbecPlease · 07/02/2022 23:53

@13yearslater - Definitely one too many glasses of Malbec for a Monday night 🤣🤣 I mean, each to their own but this is dark web category, not sure you'd find much by googling 😜🤣🤣

Wreath21 · 08/02/2022 00:05

The fact that he doesn't want sex with you is a reason to consider leaving, whether or not he watches porn, if you are unhappy about the lack of sex. Is he nice to you in other ways, though? Does he do his share of domestic work, do you have a laugh together, do you share your money equally?
The main thing is, as always: it's perfectly OK to end a relationship that is making you miserable.

Josuk · 08/02/2022 00:55

So - are you Ok with the sexless relationship if he doesn’t watch porn?

A relationship without intimacy for 15 years is pretty broken and doesn’t really have much hope of making it.
Whether or not porn caused it, doesn’t even matter anymore. It is what it is by now.
You are at best roommates.

Leave him to watch his porn. Find someone you like who wants ti have sex with you.

amiafreakofnature · 08/02/2022 07:13

No I'm not happy with the sexless relationship full stop. And the person who said make more effort you have no clue.
I have booked us weekends away, I dress up nice etc. He has done absolutely nothing about this

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PearPickingPorky · 08/02/2022 07:15

@amiafreakofnature

No I'm not happy with the sexless relationship full stop. And the person who said make more effort you have no clue. I have booked us weekends away, I dress up nice etc. He has done absolutely nothing about this
Then yes, you need to leave.
moocow123456 · 08/02/2022 07:19

If you haven't had sex for 15 years then I would say it is time to part ways. You say you have tried to instigate it and it isn't working.

I don't think the fact he's watched porn should be the dealbreaker though. Some people watch porn. You can't try and stop that.

15 years is a hell of a long time not to have had sex. I would go.

GeneLovesJezebel · 08/02/2022 07:20

Yes, leave.
He’s happy, you’re not. Put yourself first.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 08/02/2022 08:22

@moocow123456

If you haven't had sex for 15 years then I would say it is time to part ways. You say you have tried to instigate it and it isn't working.

I don't think the fact he's watched porn should be the dealbreaker though. Some people watch porn. You can't try and stop that.

15 years is a hell of a long time not to have had sex. I would go.

This ^^
ExtraPlinky · 08/02/2022 08:40

@Bakewelltart987

Leave him for watching porn?

If you are thinking of leaving there has to be more to it than watching porn and your using this as your reason.

How about both of you try to make more effort in the bedroom. Book a romantic weekend away or something.

What absolutely ridiculous advice.
Thanwehavedreamed · 08/02/2022 10:37

First of all, being deeply uncomfortable with porn is completely valid — in my opinion we are conducting a huge social experiment at the moment where access to porn and extreme porn is easier than it’s ever been and consumed at much higher rates that it has ever been. How can we be so confident that this isn’t having an impact on men’s sexuality and attitudes to women when it has only really been the case since the beginning of broadband (e.g since about 2008)? What is the relationship between porn and the pressure on women to engage in anal sex and chocking, or the violent sexual language language in social media or mason greenwood and met police texts? I’m not convinced they’re unrelated.

That said, the fact that your husband said he’d quit and then he didn’t wouldn’t necessarily be a deal breaker for me. Porn can be like any addiction — saying you’ll quit just isn’t enough. That doesn’t mean you have to put up with it but it does mean that he didn’t just lie or break a promise in a straightforward way.

I’m struggling with this atm. I know my soon to be DH is watching porn again after 18 months clean. I don’t know whether to call off the wedding. It is an addiction, it’s related to damage, he’s wonderful in every other way, but I don’t know if I can face a life time of constantly worrying if he’s relapsed, or worrying he’s watching worse stuff, or snooping about trying to work out whether his off behaviour is due to excessive porn consumption or something else. I don’t want a future of no sex. I don’t think I would be able to stay if he watched violent porn, and I suspect he has in the past. I grew up with addiction, and I worry that I’m just replicating my past.

Could you persuade him to get help? Counselling? Podcasts about giving up porn? More and more men are realising the harm and trying to quit, so there is help out there. Though, as my situation demonstrates, there is no guarantee even if he’s working on it.

Wreath21 · 09/02/2022 00:09

Porn in OP's case is irrelevant though, unfortunately, porn has always been the subject of unfounded moral panics. The issue here is that this couple are not compatible and not happy, so OP should take steps to end the relationship. It's very rarely possible to maintain a longterm relationship when there is a serious mismatch in what you want/believe/care about, whether that's sex, meat-eating, religion or politics.

Wreath21 · 09/02/2022 00:11

Oh, and 'cures for porn addiction' are a massive grift - in some cases linked to some far more alarming stuff like alt-right/incel groups (or, at least-worst, homophobia and 'traditional' patriarchal bullshit).

Anothergreatday · 09/02/2022 00:17

@Wreath21

Porn in OP's case is irrelevant though, unfortunately, porn has always been the subject of unfounded moral panics. The issue here is that this couple are not compatible and not happy, so OP should take steps to end the relationship. It's very rarely possible to maintain a longterm relationship when there is a serious mismatch in what you want/believe/care about, whether that's sex, meat-eating, religion or politics.
So how much experience have you personally had with men who use porn excessively ? And who no longer are interested in partnered sex ad they would prefer porn ? Seeing as you think porn is just unfounded panic . It’s interesting how you label it that . It would be interesting to hear your personal experience and the research your basing this on
TheGrinchsDog · 09/02/2022 03:55

Porn is a deal breaker for me. If my partner was using porn knowing how I felt then yes I would leave for that reason alone but include the 15 year sexless marriage where he doesn't make much effort too? Definitely leave, you are worth more than this.