Can anyone link me or explain this conspiracy theory (I'm not a conspiracy theorist) posted before about now exDP getting worse and worse

[Whyyyyyyyohhhhhwhyyyyyy]

Hey guys me again

Im wondering if any of you can explain the AI sentinent/plant/humans being turned in AI conspiracy theory

My now EXDP believes this wholeheartedly and I want to know what I'm up against in terms of whether my concern and worry is over the top or I'm right to be worried. I cannot find ANYTHING on Google about this particular theory.

We broke up yesterday, he's now trying to upset and hurt me verbally with the name calling/derogatory comments and stuff he posts on social media.

I feel I need to know what I'm up against before anymore decisions can be made. I've applied for talking therapy for myself to break the bonds and have a professional to offload my worries and concerns about this too. I'm now back waking up with anxiety and feeling out of sorts because of the verbal abuse which will undoubtedly continue for the next few days.

I'm done trying to help but I feel I need to join a support forum for those of us who have lost our partners to conspiracy theories and speak to people who truly understand the gravity of this loss/situation and what comes next etc if that makes sense. I feel alone in this because most people I know have never (thankfully) been in this situation.

@NailSaloon this has nothing to do with the Op’s problem

@NailSaloon he isn't scared, he's ill, who's gaslighting him? Certainly not me!

Whats your transphobia got to do with anything?

My extended family member is like this, though not quite as advanced. She believes she can see black auras around the heads of anyone that is walking down the road towards them that has had the Covid vaccine (any of them I think) and says she often sees them blinking out of existence. It's very sad as her partner, from whom she now wants a divorce because he's had the vaccine, won't do anything as he's worried she will kick him out of the house and demand more than half of their assets if he doesn't just go along with everything she says - which she also says to their early teen children, who are very distressed.

It's clear to everyone else that she is slipping into a mental health crisis. Her brother is schizophrenic and it runs in her family. Lockdown and covid just tipped her over the edge. It's very sad. I think these people need urgent medical help and everyone tells her partner, or ex partner now that he should speak to the GP about her and get her help, but he won't.

Apparently everyone is a conspiracy theorist now a days and only allowed to think in certain ways

@NailSaloon Do you really believe how this bloke is is normal and healthy?

@NailSaloon

Of you read Helen Joyce's best selling book them you would know an IT Billionaire - not Bill, has been funding this stuff and he wants transhumanism chips in people.

You wouldn't "know" anything of the sort. Because it's so blatantly absolute bollocks.

@NailSaloon

Well you need to tell Helen Joyce and the Catholic church the latest name calling is conspiracy theories, how dare anyone have another opinion to you, cancel them.

You can have your own opinions, you just can't have your own facts.

I would stop engaging with NailSaloon. All she is doing is derailing the thread with her own horseshit nonsense.

People have done terrible things to their children while they are in the midst of psychotic episodes. I do not think it is safe to let your children have contact with this man while he is so acutely unwell. If he gets treatment for his illness, then perhaps he can start having supervised contact, but right now, your kids would be at serious risk from him, and you need to keep them safe.

OP I can see why you are worried. I had a thread on a CT friend who I'm edging away from.

What is his attitude towards his parents now?
Also, is there any possibility he is aware he's making this up?

I think my friend knows she's talking shit to some extent but likes to keep on doing it.

I would want to keep DC away I think.

Unfortunately the pandemic has exacerbated many mental health problems in people and I feel desperately sad for those around them who are forced to pick up the pieces with little to no outside support. Social media hasn't helped stop the spread of conspiracy theories and (loathe to sound like Trump) fake news.

This sounds very much like schizophrenia OP. There's no point in trying to 'understand' this particular conspiracy because as soon as you engage with him on a good day, he'll debate with you and tell you why what you're saying is wrong and on a bad day, he'll say you're in on it too. There's no reasoning with him I'm afraid. The best thing you can do is ensure neither you nor your children are not left alone with him, you could try to go for supervised contact?

What do your in laws say about him? Have the noticed a difference in behaviour?

I don't think your exDP sounds like a conspiracy theorist @Whyyyyyyyohhhhhwhyyyyyy.

You need a conspiracy for that and I think this is all just him.

Whatever psychiatric problems he has need diagnosis and treatment.

I don't know if you need to tell the police, his GP, or social services (or all 3) but please do something.

That type and level of delusion sounds dangerous.

I don't quite know how to put this but...

My DH has never had to swear that he will never hurt the children.

The fact that this has even come up is a massive warning sign.

I think you need to get professionals involved to protect your family and his. And anyone else he might perceive as a threat because of his delusions.

Feel free to pm me - my ex is EXACTLY the same. He's out of his tree.

OP, what you're describing sounds very much like a partner I was with years ago. He became increasingly delusional and paranoid, and tried to kill a friend because he could "read signs" that no one else had noticed (erm, you can read between the lines of that!). This went to court and he somehow managed to talk his way out of going to jail. I hoped he'd get psychiatric treatment instead, but bizarrely a mental health professional assessed him as OK! I think it must have been a very brief assessment and he could talk a good game and used raging indignation to make people back down. (Also, I think he'd understood from childhood that he had a different way of seeing things, and had become adept at hiding ideas that he realised other people found odd.)

Over the past 15 years or so, he has gone on to become something of a cult leader (having long ago alienated friends and family, he now has followers) and has appeared in court for all sorts of increasingly crazy, paranoia-fuelled acts. It's quite obvious from the way he appears at trials that he is a long way off being mentally sound. But nothing ever happens! The papers just snigger at him, and then off he goes again, forever perpetuating absolute mayhem in his own life and those of others. I honestly don't know what it takes to get help for someone like that.

Your ex might well have been stifling all sorts of nutty ideas for much of his life, but is now revealing them openly. This is a point when he could become quite dangerous. I hope there is some way of accessing treatment for him, but your priority should be protecting yourself and your child. Because when someone starts showing this level of delusion, it's the tip of an iceberg that is bigger and colder and deeper than we can even begin to imagine.

I'm so sorry, there is no good news here I'm afraid. x

Seriously don’t engage with nailsaloon. The fact that about a 3rd of the posts on this thread are theirs and have been deleted tells us everything we need to know about them. Don’t feed it.

P.S. Right up until he tried to kill his friend, I was still trying to find closure in our relationship, talking to him on the phone, arguing (of course -- he would rant and rant!), crying, trying to make sense of things, wondering what had happened to the lovely man I'd known, etc etc. I was worried for his MH, but had absolutely no clue of the scale of it. No one did.

It's incredibly painful to lose someone in this way, I really feel for you.

I think at this point you need professional advice. Is there anywhere you can get some free legal advice near you, or perhaps citizens advice could help? Feels like you need to know your rights here wrt stopping contact with the children, a solicitor would be able to advise best. He’s very unwell OP, stop engaging with him and whatever he believes, and focus on you and your children and keeping them safe. You can’t help him by “understanding his beliefs” - they’re delusions, not rationally held beliefs. This is way more than a belief in conspiracy theories.

Putting it as simply as possible - he believes that people have been replaced by machines with malevolent intent. Initially, those in positions of power over him and then those who disagree with him.

It will extend to you and your DC - you aren't alive, you are machines designed to turn him into one as well. Much like Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Aliens pretending to be human), mixed with elements of The Terminator (machine with flesh on the outside). It's a 20th-21st century version of demonic possession/changelings.

The danger is that once he becomes convinced that family members/you are also machines, you aren't alive. Destroying machines is just beating the evil robots/aliens/demons, not killing your ex and her children.

I agree with others saying schizophrenia. Look this up and read about it.

How old is he and does he use alcohol or drugs? Does he hold down a job?

This stuff is bloody terrifying and TBH if he is of the belief that you are all turning into machines the likelihood is he won’t want to see the kids anyway, because he will no longer see them as his kids. Iyswim.

This should give you good reason to just not discuss contact.

As for him posting about you on fb, by posting on FB he is alerting everyone in his circle to what you are going through,and it’s unlikely he is going to build up support for himself that way. Quite the opposite in fact.So I would just let him carry on on that score, but block him so you don’t have to read it.

Does any of this ring any bells OP?
mentalillnesspolicy.org/medical/schizophrenia-delusions.html

I remember reading somewhere (can't find it now, but this article hints at it) that a common delusion in schizophrenia is that you have had something implanted against your will.

It doesn't take a genius to understand how the whole anti-vax hysteria is like rocket fuel for anyone that way inclined.

It could be similar to this
www.gov.uk/government/publications/human-augmentation-the-dawn-of-a-new-paradigm

I've seen this on Twitter, not read it but I know some people are sharing it. Like most things of this nature, the plans could be quite innocent but somebody will read something into it. There are also publications on gov website regarding AI if you Google for them and this week there has been a plan uploaded for a digital ID platform.

It sounds like a he is experiencing psychosis. I don’t really know what to advise except to call the police if he comes anywhere near you.

@MolkosTeenageAngst

I don’t think these are conspiracy theories. These sound like paranoid delusions which are a symptom of serious mental illness. I don’t think researching the theories is enough to keep your DC safe, if he believed he was Jesus would you just be brushing up on your understanding of the Bible?

He needs professional support. Until he receives that I would be reporting my concerns to social services and not letting him see the DC unless supervised.

This. Believing your close loved ones have been replaced by AI bots aren't 'conspiracy theories', they're symptoms of serious mental illness.

Take action NOW.