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Thread 219: Dating in a winter wonderland

970 replies

Shayelle2009 · 29/11/2021 08:37

The Rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. Know your worth.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item

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Stayingstrongish · 01/12/2021 08:25

@ibelieveinmirrorballs good luck with the convo, hope you can work something out together that suits you both.

Isitreallyme177 · 01/12/2021 08:40

@OnwardsEverStridingOnwards have you thought about getting a pet. They are amazing for your mental health. I wouldn't be without my cats, they got me through some of my darkest days when I couldn't see a reason for carrying on. So when one died this summer I was devastated (understatement there) but now I've got a new one and I'm bursting with love for him already. They're also good talking points but they give you something to look after.

SortingItOut · 01/12/2021 08:47

@ibelieveinmirrorballs I also agree with what you're saying about attachment styles but I still think using the word needy is too negative, not sure of an alternative right now though😂
My attachment style is fearful/disorganised so sometimes I want loads of contact and other times I don't - there's no pleasing me🤦‍♀️

@BelladiMamma What a surprise your ex is being a dick about your life, I hope you could still enjoy the evening.

@Eesha How terribly quaint but sweet.
I'm pleased you've got a good connection with someone - how exciting😁

Bangheadhere40 · 01/12/2021 09:08

I would second getting a cat onwards...they are very self sufficient but such lovely company. I got mine in the summer and she's really helped me, I will always have one now...love her to bits.

Bangheadhere40 · 01/12/2021 09:10

And eesha that sounds good horray!!! Did you advertise his invitation?

No iron news from me, a couple of chats that have faded out, it's sooo tedious.

Bangheadhere40 · 01/12/2021 09:10

Accept, not advertise 🤣

Eesha · 01/12/2021 09:39

@ibelieveinmirrorballs yes, we have just had the one date but hours of chat. Hes very much a keen communicator which suits me perfectly. I did say yes! We both like each other and just want someone to hang out with (ie the living apart together thing). I'm keeping an eye out for red flags having been love bombed by my abusive ex years ago. What I would say is we have both done a lot of work on ourselves separately (him 7 years) so we are both in good places mentally and ready. I also genuinely believe had I not done my trip this year and overcome such a huge barrier in my life, that I wouldn't then have been ready for a healthy relationship with anyone. We had also both resigned ourselves to the idea of being alone, which was also perfectly fine, mainly because we had our children and that completed us. At the moment we are just enjoying ourselves.

BelladiMamma · 01/12/2021 09:54

[quote Eesha]@InABetterPlaceNow well done, I can see how it can be hard to push back on things and totally empathise with the whole thing about being too agreeable and accommodating. You did a strong thing.

@StartingAgain6369 bummer about Ms Sunglasses. Do you have other options?

Another day of messaging and calls with Mr Music and he has asked if I would be his girlfriend. Do people actually do that?....I said yes Grin[/quote]
Woohoo 🥳
This is so great 😄

BelladiMamma · 01/12/2021 09:57

Just dropping in to say hello and that I eventually got everything back on track.

Lots more to say but need time to
RTFT and get on with some other stuff

Happy Wednesday everyone

StartingAgain6369 · 01/12/2021 10:13

@Eesha
I have Ms YM1 purely friendship between us, we have some Christmassy things booked together which I’m looking forward to especially the light tour at Blenheim Place

Mr Music is so cute, sounds like he does things the old-fashioned way

@Naimee87
Yes, you did hear me right – I have a drive thru Costa in my part of Warwickshire.
Mr Magnet Man is coming over caring going by what you have posted, has he got any children?

I know it’s late but good morning to all the posters and lurkers. Is it really the 1st December !

PurpleStripyScarf · 01/12/2021 10:37

Some great updates here re communications, expressing boundaries etc.

Yay @Eesha!

Thanks for popping in briefly @BelladiMamma - looking forward to seeing your substantive update later.

Wow yes @StartingAgain6369 it's December - crikey! Pinch and a punch an' all that. I'm starting to feel Christmassy.

Thanks for everyone's various responses about present-buying. Glad I'm not the only one!

Naimee87 · 01/12/2021 11:43

@StartingAgain6369 wow! what's your cake of choice to accompany your coffee then? Or is the coffee calorific enough.
I didn't know whether to write to magnet-man about the school stuff because i thought perhaps it is a little much for him but he's been lovely! I was a bit concerned he'd back off but he came through! I asked him a while ago if we can get a weekend or few days together and he has said he'd like to over christmas. We haven't made any plans yet. He reassured me today its 'of course still on his mind' but do i just be patient or suggest dates? It's already December...

SpringlikeBunk · 01/12/2021 11:55

@Naimee87

With you on that “eek will the date come through now bench”

  • I guess as the long distance contact/scheduling stuff has been weird all I know from MrHedgehog is he’d prefer to “try to meet in 2021” rather than 2022. I’ve responded positively to this so ball in his court.

That said, I know Xmas month can be full up though for so many people so I’m basically just sitting on my hands and getting on with other stuff!

Had mulled wine and an outdoor fire last night and carols tonight Bear

Naimee87 · 01/12/2021 12:16

@SpringlikeBunk yea feeling really up in the air with how magnet-man's been lately. Somehow i got a distant vibe from
him then the school stuff escalated and i reached him and he was really philosophical and calm about it all. I just get in my own head sometimes which is so full and chaotic, especially with the school stuff now too. He seem's all for spending some time together but its one of those 'will the words turn into actions' I'm so hoping for both of us they do!

SpringlikeBunk · 01/12/2021 12:24

@Naimee87

I do think Xmas month can be a bit weird/socially intense for a lot of people with a lot of pressure for things to be perfect whether it’s dating or the decorations. And all the extra socialising and parties.

(just look at all the mumsnet discussions about family drama etc) so I’m actually happy just writing it off a little bit.

if we meet next month it’s a little bit better schedule wise for me as I have a big report due to submit at Xmas

FabulousMrFifty · 01/12/2021 12:32

What do you do when your key team player and confidant leaves ?

Naimee87 · 01/12/2021 12:32

@SpringlikeBunk i've a January deadline! But it's been a while now where we've managed to escape and see each other but always with committments hanging over us! He was the one to suggest trying at Christmas so let's see! I really can't complain about us and how we're doing especially given his reaction to the school stuff! And if i've learned anything with him it really is that pateince and being calm really does pay off! Also ever since he sent photo's of him in his camouflage air-rifle squad uniform (or whatever their called) i've wanted to do him in it! So romantic right!

StartingAgain6369 · 01/12/2021 12:34

@Naimee87
Only caramel latte as a rule, sometimes I may go in store and have toast but that is normally when ‘the boys’ meet for a early morning catch up.

I do eat cake (my body isn't a temple) rather fond of M&S lemon drizzle cake but don’t tell anyone !!

SpringlikeBunk · 01/12/2021 12:38

@Naimee87

Ooh (magnet) men in uniform very nice Grin

BelladiMamma · 01/12/2021 12:54

So. Had a long conversation both with my Dad and also MrA about my ex. Basically I have to adjust my expectations that he isn’t there for DD. He isn’t someone we can rely on. I’m now recalibrating my work and life plans to make my building project somewhere I could have live in help. I thought I was past this stage, but actually I need a nanny again. Because the ex doesn’t want me to have a private life I need to carve it out for myself. So back to life with a nanny and the sort of set up where I basically replicate myself and have real back up.

Last night was nearly an absolute car crash.

The afternoon started really well. He was on time, nicely dressed, bought me a drink. Quiet but lovely. I was able to wear all city clothes not wellies etc because I walked the dogs before we met. Spent one hour in the first place but we didn’t like the menu so we left and went into my little local hometown and found somewhere else to eat. Lots of cuddles and chatting. Lovely snog. Bit more wandering around hometown. He’s extremely attractive (to me) and I was really happy spending time with him. He was really complimentary about small things and very attentive.

I wore some black jeans and a nice dark green top from all saints with knee high boots and petrol blue fluffy fake fur jacket from Reiss. Diamonds. Expensive watch, car, make up. Cute underwear ever so slightly on display.

In the background the home / ex crisis was brewing and I got increasingly distracted. I spoke to him a little bit about it and we decided to call it a day so that we didn’t have to stress about it. The next hour was miserable. Trying to deal with the crisis and wondering what to do if crisis blew over. MrBeau set off home. I felt completely distraught. That I was never going to meet anyone again, have a private life or get away from my ex. DD being used as emotional punchbag by him in between time. Felt totally out of control & like I didn’t know what to do and how to help DD.

At a certain point I just decided that I was going to stand my ground. And push back. Which I did. And then everything started to fall in place. I felt brave enough to call MrBeau and give him an edited version and that the situation was resolved. MrBeau drove back and came straight to mine. I cooked. Things were fine but then he opened up about how distressed he’d been by the incident earlier and couldn’t cope with what felt like rejection. It was like hearing all my darkest fears of abandonment spoken out loud. So we spent an hour just cuddling with the pooches and more alcohol may have been consumed.

Things settled down again, we listened to some music. Looked at some of his Dad’s artwork on line and then got my Dad’s photos out (my Dad was an amazing amateur photographer and took incredible shots of my Mum and her family which are as good as anything I’ve ever seen in a photographic gallery). We mooched & chatted and decided we weren’t going to be romantic / sexual partners just friends.

Fast forward half an hour and that’s completely gone out of the window 🤣🤣🤣
I had a very enjoyable night 😊

In conclusion: he’s really nice but maybe a bit too vulnerable for me to deal with at the moment. He also drinks too much but need to see if this was a nervous first date thing.
Also: I need to establish my home set up as if the ex didn’t exist.

To all the PP’s about Christmas presents. Small but thoughtful and a lovely card with a nice handwritten personal message is the way to go.

To the PP’s about boundaries and communication. I nearly threw out all my good learnings about boundaries last night. I drank too much, spoke too much about my ex. MrBeau also did the same. We would need to sort that out - especially the drinking - if we carry on seeing each other.

Communication, I love a chat, me. MrBeau and I agreed that all our communication these last few days had really helped with our being able to meet and get on and feel comfortable in each other’s company. Not sure how comms will develop now or if he and I are even a thing. Let’s see.

In the meantime bought the Christmas tree and will put that up tonight. The pooches have been barking at it since it arrived 🤣

Naimee87 · 01/12/2021 13:41

@StartingAgain6369 i promise it can be our (and ALL the other posters) secret. I'm partial to one of those cinammon swirls and a caramel machiatto. But with the weather plus these new variants terrorising us and once again showing how little impact this vaccine is having and the huge lack of drive-throughs where i am i'm hardly likely to get one anytime soon.
@FabulousMrFifty has this just happened to you? has a colleague left work... any reason? was it sudden and a shock? I wrote that a bit like he died didn't i.
@SpringlikeBunk i think only i have eyes for this tubby-trucker, i've yet to find someone who see's him like i do! Who know's perhaps you'll be the first! ...

FabulousMrFifty · 01/12/2021 14:22

@Naimee87
Yes, one of my team left on Monday, for another job, he was my “go to” man for loads of things, not a shock really, but I do feel all kinda at sea, I interviewed and recruited him, became good work friends.

And I’ve just had the text from NHS saying I’ve visited a venue linked to a COVID outbreak ..

Oh clucking bells 🔔

Eesha · 01/12/2021 14:31

@BelladiMamma I'm really glad Mr Beau came through in the end. Sometimes these dramas are needed to make you reevaluate your home life properly. I remember going to the cinema and my ex ranting drunkenly via text and ruining our night (such early days) but just made me think I really needed to plan for every eventuality.

I would also worry about the drinking thing but it was a weird night so see how your next meeting goes. I love your clothing choices! I'm pondering my next two dates with Mr Music, one dinner and one wedding party thing where he will be collecting me and potentially meeting my best friend. Previously was going casual but now need to look a tad nicer.

FabulousMrFifty · 01/12/2021 14:42

@illbeinthegarden
Which bit of Norfolk are you in, ( I was born ‘n breed in North Norfolk)

BelladiMamma · 01/12/2021 15:37

[quote Eesha]@BelladiMamma I'm really glad Mr Beau came through in the end. Sometimes these dramas are needed to make you reevaluate your home life properly. I remember going to the cinema and my ex ranting drunkenly via text and ruining our night (such early days) but just made me think I really needed to plan for every eventuality.

I would also worry about the drinking thing but it was a weird night so see how your next meeting goes. I love your clothing choices! I'm pondering my next two dates with Mr Music, one dinner and one wedding party thing where he will be collecting me and potentially meeting my best friend. Previously was going casual but now need to look a tad nicer.[/quote]
Yeah not happy about the drinking. Nor for me really. Today has been a total write off