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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 06/11/2021 08:46

He raped you
I’m so sorry this happened to you
It’s a lot to process but you should really seriously consider leaving him

MoveAhoy · 06/11/2021 08:51

MN makes my head spin. One minute I'm encouraging someone that her relationship can be salvaged the next I'm saying run.

He has shown you who he is. Believe him the first time.

RUN.

Patapouf · 06/11/2021 08:52

Oh OP I'm so sorry. What you've described isn't just a lack of respect for boundaries it is assault.

CrunchyCarrot · 06/11/2021 08:53

Yes OP, sorry to say he did rape you. It is hard to get one's head around that a partner can do this (I had it happen to me too when I was married to an abusive ex). Just because you are in a relationship with someone doesn't mean they can do as they please to you. I would seriously re-think my relationship with someone like that, also don't give in to the emotional blackmail - very childish on his part.

Jamdown123 · 06/11/2021 08:59

@angryandscared1

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

Is there a way that you could take a few days away, with friends or family, to think this through.

It is a lot to have happened, and t' no surprise you feel confused. There was a lot of complexity there. It is also likely quite scary for you to think about it and you might start wondering whether certain bits really did happen or not. Would you be able to wrote an email to yourself about the encounter, with a fair bit of detail? You might need this later.

You also very recently had a baby, your hormones are still trying to find a balance, and if you are breastfeeding, this will be even more so. Your body is prioritising the baby still, and that does not include another one, so your libido may stay quite low for a while.

You need to be able to live feeling safe in your relationship and in your home. You might feel fearful now. You might feel untrusting of sim sexually, and emotionally, since his response following the incident.

My opinion is that it was a sexual assault, and I would regard it to be rape. However, I will not tell you what to do there. Many of us have been in situations with loved ones, partners (I speak of heterosexual relationships here) and they have overstepped. But we are still there. So please make the best decision for you. This was an assault though, therefore a crime, and potentially very damaging for you. This much is not negotiable, whatever he comes back and says.

BackBackBack · 06/11/2021 08:59

Firstly have a huge hug and handhold. You must be feeling sore, angry and upset and rightly so.

Secondly, get yourself off to the nearest chemist and get the MAP today, just as a precaution.

Thirdly, dump your partner. He's a lying piece of shit. It's not "hard to remember" to use a condom. It's not "hard to remember" that you repeatedly said you wanted gentle sex because you were concerned about pain. He's a disgusting rapey piece of shit who deliberately ignored your requests - and by ignoring them there was no longer consent. You didn't consent to unprotected sex. You didn't consent to him being rough. You didn't consent to him repeatedly ignoring you. Using lack of sex as an excuse is him saying that he feels it's appropriate for him to do whatever he wants regardless of how you feel about it, simply because he's horny.

Get him gone; pronto. If he kicks off then I'd threaten the police.

toothache3000 · 06/11/2021 09:01

@beautifulview

Well. This relationship is over. I’m not sure if it’s technically rape because you consented but he didn’t respect your boundaries and you’d clearly stated what you wanted. It’s just not ok and I can’t see how you’d ever want sex with him again
The OP consented to gentle sex with a condom. This is not what happened. The OP did not consent to sex without a condom therefore it is rape.

OP, his reaction is more worrying. He should be grovelling for your forgiveness not trying to manipulate you by saying you will have a sexless relationship. Get rid of him.

Huffler · 06/11/2021 09:03

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Ansjovis · 06/11/2021 09:05

What an awful man. I felt very angry on your behalf reading your words. How dare he deny what he did like that! You asked him to be gentle, he ignored you, you asked him to use a condom, he ignored you and made excuses. Classic DARVO (Deny, Attack Reverse Victim and Offender).

I can't even imagine how you must be feeling right now but please stay strong and do not allow him to convince you that he did nothing wrong and/or you are at fault. This is simply not true. You're still recovering from the birth of your baby, now more than ever your partner should be taking care of you. Instead he's purposefully hurting you and, I agree with the person who said this earlier, probably acting out things he's seen in porn. You deserve someone who sees you as a human, not as some brainless sex doll.

Terminallysleepdeprived · 06/11/2021 09:07

I am so sorry @angryandscared1 but yes he raped you and he doesn't seem to care and is now gaslighting you.

That is rape and abuse

You need to get him out of your life and then consider reporting him to the police

Witchwithacat · 06/11/2021 09:07

This doesn’t sound like a healthy sexual relationship, he has crossed many boundaries. The fact he can’t see what he’s done is wrong, is worrying in itself, he has been very disrespectful to the one he’s meant to love.
This would be enough for me to end the relationship.
I hope you’re ok. X

PraiseTheSunshine · 06/11/2021 09:07

I'm so sorry that this happened to you, you must have been really frightened. And yes it is rape, he hurt you and didn't use a condom knowing that you had explicitly stated that he had to and now he is trying to gaslight you into thinking that you are the one in the wrong and that he is the injured party. This man doesn't have your interests at heart at all and I would really suggest that you get some help and that you leave. Whatever you choose to do though, please take care of yourself because you are probably in shock right now. Do you have someone in real life that you could talk to ??

beastlyslumber · 06/11/2021 09:07

Doesn't take long for the victim blamers/rape apologists to turn up, does it?

This isn't a case of 'overstepping' or needing your libido to come back or to arrange a date night. Who the fuck wants to arrange a date night with someone who just raped them?

thenewduchessofhastings · 06/11/2021 09:07

[quote Huffler]@angryandscared1 im sorry to hear u went through this. I was like this with my child to my ex it takes a long while for hormones to adjust. To be honest i think alot of the pain for me was more me mentally panicking and anxiety but i understand things feel different. I felt as though i no longer loved my partener and my love for my child had overgrown his. We are now separated due to other issues but this is something u both need to talk about. Idk if id call it rape but i can see how he got carried away. Have u tried oral with him? U dont have to receive just a blow or handjob every noe and then. U also both need to feel 100% comfortable with it. Why dont u try maybe playing with yourself using a toy or something and he can watch and show him how gentle u want it to be. Definitely would not be taking any of this rough sex i understand it frightened you its not on and he should apologize and if use can work and talk through it together. I hope things improve for u it does get better i promise ur libdo does come back. For now maybe use need to focus on building the romantic side of ur relationship... date nights.. breakfast in bed from partener etc. Its up to u really if u stay or go im only giving ideas that might work for me but if u chose to leave and dont feel comfortable anymore i completly understand that and would also say u r within ur rights. You said no condom multiple times and he ignored you. Complete disrespect there.[/quote]
What planet are you on @Huffler;she should give him oral sex or hand jobs to satisfy him?

She doesn't have to do anything to him at all;not the OP's problem especially after he violated her.

This is one of those days you should put the keyboard down.

XiCi · 06/11/2021 09:08

I can't believe what I've read there Huffler. You are really fucked up

ItsDisneyBitch · 06/11/2021 09:09

@Huffler are you kidding me? Why the fuck after she has been raped would she try oral?! Stop making excuses for a man. She said gentle sex with a condom. He didn’t respect either of those requests. It’s rape.

NadiaVulvokov · 06/11/2021 09:09

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

Yes, that was rape. The relationship is over.

As he has been rough and violent I think contacting the police would be appropriate.

Rape Crisis and Women’s Aid will be able to help and support you.

If he won’t leave today, then you should leave to stay with a friend/family member until he does leave.

BlancheB · 06/11/2021 09:10

I'm so sorry OP reading that was horrific and I can imagine how you must be feeling today. Please don't let him gaslight you into thinking any of it was your fault. It wasn't.

Don't let him "stay for the baby" either. He is not a good man.

Walkaround · 06/11/2021 09:13

He raped you. If I were you, I would never, ever trust him again. I would also report him to the police.

MrsMo21 · 06/11/2021 09:16

That sounds so awful I’m so sorry. You did nothing wrong and yes that’s absolutely rape.

He’s vile, please leave if you can.

ChangeAndHelp · 06/11/2021 09:18

Leave now. It seems hard with a baby but actually it is easier because the baby just needs physical care and your love. So it is actually easier than leaving with older children.

Yes you will still be tired but imagine not worrying about any pressure for sex in the evening- I bet this has had a huge effect on you, the atmosphere and the sulking?
I also imagine that you are doing the majority, if not all of the care anyway.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 06/11/2021 09:20

I'm so sorry OP, I feel so upset for you. A loving partner should NEVER treat you like that.
That would be the end for me.
Some men start this after their partner has a baby and show their true colours. I don't think your relationship can survive this especially when he is trying to blame you for him being a rapist.

Eyesofdisarray · 06/11/2021 09:20

No Huffler no and no again
You are excusing this pathetic man and his even more pathetic excuses.
This is wrong on every level.
Date nights? Breakfast in bed? Perhaps OP's husband should had tried these ideas along with a GENTLE approach beforehand; y'know, think of the woman who birthed his child and was making an effort for him. Nobody owes a partner sex.
OP- sorry the apologists turned up.
It beggars belief.
Good luck with your future xx

DDUW · 06/11/2021 09:20

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Animood · 06/11/2021 09:20

Please please get yourself out of there. You're not safe with this man!