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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

OP posts:
lemondrop21 · 06/11/2021 09:51

Oh god op, I'm so so so sorry.
I have a 6.5 mo so know exactly where you are with this. Sex is not a priority right now.

If my husband did this he would be out the door the next day. He's a despicable human being. You need to leave him.
Please try gather your strength to get away from him. I would also seek legal advice when you feel up to it x

Silenceisgolden20 · 06/11/2021 09:52

@angryandscared1

Thank you all for the helplines. I am going to contact rape crisis to talk it over. I don't know if I can report him though. I don't want to ruin his life. I just want him to be sorry Sad
Talk it though with someone, one step at a time. You need support right now and to process this. I think you're handling it very well and are so brave.
BookBug482 · 06/11/2021 09:52

Getting carried away is not an excuse. Me and my dh have rough sex and we both enjoy it but he would NEVER do anything of the sort without checking with me that that's what I want first and then continually confirming that I'm happy with the situation and asking what I want. He wouldn't ever just 'get caught up' and forget to do these things because he respects me. I did have an ex who behaved similarly to your partner and would also blame me when he would try/do something that I was not ok with and did not consent to and it took me a long time to realise he was also emotionally abusive and did those things because he didn't care about me and just saw me as a piece of meat to satisfy his needs. Do mot let him talk you into feeling like this was your fault. It was not. You should always feel respected and listened to and I'm sorry you had to go through that Flowers

RestingStitchFace · 06/11/2021 09:52

Also, repeating previous posters comments - get the morning-after pill to be on the safe side....

Benjispruce5 · 06/11/2021 09:54

That sounds awful op. He sounds horrible. I don’t know what you should do as I know nothing of your relationship but at the very least he needs to address his attitude and behaviour. Take care of yourself and never feel obligated to do anything sexual with him until you feel he has properly accepted his behaviour was wrong. Flowers

beastlyslumber · 06/11/2021 09:54

@angryandscared1

Thank you all for the helplines. I am going to contact rape crisis to talk it over. I don't know if I can report him though. I don't want to ruin his life. I just want him to be sorry Sad
Reporting him isn't for the purpose of ruining his life. It's to keep you and your baby safe.

Plus, it's his crime that would potentially ruin his life. His decision to rape. His actions. He is responsible for what he's done - not you.

He's clearly not sorry. You won't get him to be sorry. You need to get him away from you. Reporting him may help with that. I agree, though, talk to rape crisis and think through what your options are.

theworldsastage · 06/11/2021 09:55

@angryandscared1

Thank you all for the helplines. I am going to contact rape crisis to talk it over. I don't know if I can report him though. I don't want to ruin his life. I just want him to be sorry Sad
You know whatever happens next, it's not your fault, don't you?

He's the one who did this, not you. Any consequences are on him.

The fact that he's a policeman explains why the word rape has made him so angry - he knows what he did constitutes rape, and he knows what will happen next if he doesn't intimidate you into keeping quiet.

He is not a good man. You are not responsible for him.

Your only loyalties right now are to yourself and your baby. And don't forget how important you are. You, you, you. You've had a baby, you're tired, you've just had an awful experience - it's a very natural, female thing to try to push yourself down in the pecking order. We are telling you to ignore that instinct to put yourself last, and to put yourself first for once. You are worth it.

angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 09:55

@RestingStitchFace

Also, repeating previous posters comments - get the morning-after pill to be on the safe side....

I missed these comments. He didn't ejaculate inside me, he said he was going to pull out to do so and that's when it dawned on me he wasn't wearing a condom. So he didn't actually finish inside me as I left the bedroom upset when he said that. Do you think I still need to take it?

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SummerWhisper · 06/11/2021 09:56

Please look at this website police-me-too.co.uk/

It's police officers like your partner who downplay or protect police officers like Wayne Couzens. They are all in the same club about women. How can women be safe when there are so many violent abusers in the police force. If you want to report him, there will be a hell of a lot more women you will be protecting. You are vulnerable and need support and the important thing is that you and baby are safe from this sexual abuser.

beautifulview · 06/11/2021 09:56

I don’t think it fulfils the legal definitions of rape

www.localsolicitors.com/criminal-guides/a-guide-to-uk-rape-laws

But it could be sexual assault. Best to talk to a legal professional.

ThreeLocusts · 06/11/2021 09:56

I'm so sorry this has happened.

It's terrifying to think that this brute is in the police. From the point of view of the rest of womankind, that's an extra reason to report. If you don't want to deal with the fallout, I second doing so anonymously, to a different force, and only once you're well away from him.

You can cope without him, even if it's hard. Probably it'll be less hard than coping with the fallout of sexual abuse. All the best.

Workinghardeveryday · 06/11/2021 09:56

Never heard of stealthing, just googled it, I get it now

category12 · 06/11/2021 09:56

I mean, how can a man who does this in his own home, properly support and take seriously rape and domestic abuse victims in his work? It's frightening.

category12 · 06/11/2021 09:58

I would take MAP just to be really sure - it's not worth the risk or anxiety waiting for AF.

Spudina · 06/11/2021 09:58

I would take it to be on the safe side OP. There’s some sperm in pre ejaculate. The last thing you need is another pregnancy.

angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 09:59

@category12

I mean, how can a man who does this in his own home, properly support and take seriously rape and domestic abuse victims in his work? It's frightening.

From what I gather he is a different person at work. He's well respected and liked by all his colleagues etc. It's just me he has no respect for it seems. Confused

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Justilou1 · 06/11/2021 10:01

Please speak to your GP as well. You need a morning after pill. It will also help to get counselling and an official record in case he gets ugly if (when) you divorce. I’m so sorry this happened to you. You did not deserve this. His behaviour is physically and psychologically abusive. Don’t question yourself or let him blame-shift. He knows exactly what he was doing.

whitehorsesdonotlie · 06/11/2021 10:01

Oh love, that is horrible.

You couldn't have been clearer about what you wanted. He raped you. And he doesn't sound sorry.

What do you want to do? Do you have anyone IRL you can talk to?

Sending you a gentle hug.

Silenceisgolden20 · 06/11/2021 10:01

@beautifulview

I don’t think it fulfils the legal definitions of rape

www.localsolicitors.com/criminal-guides/a-guide-to-uk-rape-laws

But it could be sexual assault. Best to talk to a legal professional.

Yes it does
angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 10:02

Just to say we aren't married so there's no legal complexities etc if we were to separate. Just childcare arrangements. I don't think he would fight me for custody, but he would definitely want regular contact.

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whitehorsesdonotlie · 06/11/2021 10:03

He's in the police! That's even worse.

Sounds like he's been watching too much porn.

You can't make him sorry, I'm afraid. That has to come from him.

category12 · 06/11/2021 10:03

It's just me he has no respect for it seems

No, it'll be all women underneath the facade, not just you.

Quartz2208 · 06/11/2021 10:04

being liked by his colleagues doesn't mean sadly he is fit to be a policeman. His complete disregard for you and getting carried away are red flags (particularly with police in the news) and reading this makes me feel he isnt fit to be a policeman at all. It is frightening OP and I do feel for you because you have some difficult decisions to make

Silenceisgolden20 · 06/11/2021 10:04

@angryandscared1 most abusers do have a different public image. It makes you feel like you're going mad as no one else see its and its all in your head. All part of the tactics
He knows what he's doing , abuse does ramp up when a woman has a baby, all part of the control

Alcemeg · 06/11/2021 10:04

I'm so sorry. This is my first "It was rape..."

I just want him to be sorry.
He won't be. Please don't waste your time. Focus on your own protection.

Terrifying that he is in the police and can't tell the difference between a living, breathing human and a sex doll. Flowers