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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

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Lifewith · 11/11/2021 16:57

Some friends are better than family. It's all relative to the OP. Lot of projecting here

PickupaPenguin8 · 11/11/2021 17:04

It's also an awful lot to ask a friend to take you in with a baby for an unspecified time, especially when that friend has an abusive partner .

FlowerArranger · 11/11/2021 17:05

This is one of the most appalling descriptions of abuse I have ever read, @angryandscared1. He is now trying to trap you in a cycle of abuse, alternating 'being nice' with accusations and verbal aggression. If you give in, further physical aggression will follow as sure as night follows day.

You were raped!! He WILL rape you again. The degree of violence WILL escalate. And he WILL continue to try and brainwash you, until you won't know which side is up. Look at your sister and how she is twisting herself to 'see both sides' and ended up apologising for a fucking RAPIST!

I know you are at rock bottom. You think you cannot do this on your own. But you must rid yourself of this man. You know you do. Please don't let your exhaustion cloud your perception of what you know you need to do. Seek help where you can and power through this horrible period of your life. You will be so glad you did Flowers

Bellringer · 11/11/2021 17:15

He is probably anxious and worried, struggling with being nice and angry as hell, he will be confused but all that is none of your concern.
You need some rest, good advice and support. Keep talking to your friend, you need to get out. So sorry op, this can't be fixed, you have to put yourself and your child first. Don't stay, you are being undermined

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2021 17:25

@PickupaPenguin8

I have to say in the OPs position I would not go and stay with a friend. It's a lot to ask of a friend to have someone to stay with a baby in these circumstances for an unlimited time. It depends how close you are to your friend, but personally, I would never do that. Family is a different thing.
I can't believe you posted that Maybe you can't imagine being raped by your partner and then having your mind played with so you think you're wrong.

I'd take any friend in under the OP's circumstances.

Brenttent · 11/11/2021 17:32

How long have you been together OP? Can
you book a hotel for a couple of nights?

PickupaPenguin8 · 11/11/2021 17:42

@Nanny0gg I certainly can imagine it. My heart goes out to the OP. I just personally would prefer to stay with family than a friend in this situation, but of course every person is different and it depends very much on the friendships and the family.

Alonelonelylonersbadidea · 11/11/2021 21:30

That's the point @PickupaPenguin8 . Some people have families who they'd never be able to share something like this with. I would choose a friend over family like OP.
Friends ARE my family. It's a wonderful thing if you have a family that you can trust under any circumstance. But it's a privilege not expected any more.

JanglyBeads · 11/11/2021 21:52

Another option which may be open to you and your daughter OP, is a women’s refuge. You can speak to a DV helpline about this.

Queenie6655 · 12/11/2021 10:20

@FlowerArranger

This is one of the most appalling descriptions of abuse I have ever read, *@angryandscared1*. He is now trying to trap you in a cycle of abuse, alternating 'being nice' with accusations and verbal aggression. If you give in, further physical aggression will follow as sure as night follows day.

You were raped!! He WILL rape you again. The degree of violence WILL escalate. And he WILL continue to try and brainwash you, until you won't know which side is up. Look at your sister and how she is twisting herself to 'see both sides' and ended up apologising for a fucking RAPIST!

I know you are at rock bottom. You think you cannot do this on your own. But you must rid yourself of this man. You know you do. Please don't let your exhaustion cloud your perception of what you know you need to do. Seek help where you can and power through this horrible period of your life. You will be so glad you did Flowers

Yes

100 per cent yes

This man can not get away with this

Too many of these fckers get away with it

Caerulea · 12/11/2021 10:20

There's so much advice in here OP & deeply down inside you know what you need to do & it just doesn't matter what your sister thinks or what you worry your dad might think. You know what cos you're here, under a pseudonym & you're scared.

Take whichever option works for you. The only thing that matters in the WHOLE WORLD right now is you & your beautiful baby, nothing else. Not him, not what your partner thinks. Do this cos YOU are worth this, you DESERVE safety & happiness & security and those things WILL come with time.

At some point all these things will be in the past & you will have gotten through this - right now you're in the absolute worst place, the peak of how bad it feels. The revulsion, fear, confusion, loneliness. All things that are hard enough without being a new mum which is so hard in itself.

But you need to hear & you must absolutely know you are worth more & you have such value & deserve the support your friend is offering you.

A whole bunch of random women here love you as another woman & we hear you & we get it.

You WILL be ok in time, you absolutely will. Be you, be mum & know you're not wrong. So much love & strength to you xx

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Itsmek · 12/11/2021 15:47

Are you okay today? We haven't heard from you.

me4real · 12/11/2021 18:23

Everything is falling apart. He's being awful to me but then nice the next minute,

You need to get away from him or for him to leave permanently @angryandscared1 . Don't give him a chance to fuck with you by having any more conversation with him than you have to.

You're exhausted now but that's partly because of what you've been/are going through- eventually you'll feel less overwhelmed.

I can't believe the b.s. your sister said. Sad

trevthecat · 12/11/2021 18:32

Op, hope you are OK today. Really hope you have some support

Justcashnosweets · 13/11/2021 16:35

@angryandscared1, are you ok???

ArabellaScott · 13/11/2021 17:33

@angryandscared1

Everything is falling apart. He's being awful to me but then nice the next minute, I'm so confused, I have no family support, I just feel like I'm going crazy. I'm losing my mind. I can't do it anymore.
Only just saw this, OP. Are you okay?
Lweji · 13/11/2021 18:43

He's being awful to me but then nice the next minute

Very common for abusers to do this.

ChristmasPlanning · 13/11/2021 21:13

@angryandscared1

Everything is falling apart. He's being awful to me but then nice the next minute, I'm so confused, I have no family support, I just feel like I'm going crazy. I'm losing my mind. I can't do it anymore.
This is gaslighting, a lot of abusers do this. Focus on staying strong, your life and your baby's life will be safer and happier if you leave him. Thanks
WhenPushComesToShove · 13/11/2021 22:04

It's very simple; you want help with the baby but don't want to be around him. Ask him how he would feel if someone treated his daughter like that in future. That might sharpen his awareness. If not, you have a narc on your hands. Get out of this relationship and get some childcare. Also report the bastard and save other women from his non-consentual 'rough condomless sex'. You know you do not deserve to be treated like this

Hogwarts4Christmas · 15/11/2021 22:54

@angryandscared1 hope you're OK?

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