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Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

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BabyBearRus · 30/10/2021 00:47

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

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Bluntness100 · 05/11/2021 11:15

@sunglassesonthetable. No one thinks you’re Alice, you don’t need to keep posting it. Hmm

And no one thinks he’s right she’s wrong, marriage break downs usually take two, that’s the point we are all trying to make, plus that her behaviour now, a year later is very damaging for all of them.

Thesummeriwas16 · 05/11/2021 11:18

I agree she shouldn't be ranting on social media but a year is NOTHING when you're going through a marriage break-up - it really isn't and perhaps the people who seem so down on her on this thread have not been through a similar experience.

Bluntness100 · 05/11/2021 11:20

@Thesummeriwas16

I agree she shouldn't be ranting on social media but a year is NOTHING when you're going through a marriage break-up - it really isn't and perhaps the people who seem so down on her on this thread have not been through a similar experience.
Sure. No one is disputing that, what’s being said is her behaviour is very damaging to all of them. Not least her and their children,
Glassofshloer · 05/11/2021 11:24

I don’t think a year is long in the healing process.

But the initial shock and mud slinging should have settled down by now, she should have an idea of what she wants her life to be going forwards and taking the first steps to make it happen.

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 11:26

@*sunglassesonthetable. No one thinks you’re Alice, you don’t need to keep posting it.

And no one thinks he’s right she’s wrong, marriage break downs usually take two, that’s the point we are all trying to make, plus that her behaviour now, a year later is very damaging for all of them.*

You're the last person who should be telling me what to do @Bluntness100

But of course there is a theme right through this thread of pompous, laying down of the law and 'knowing' what everyone thinks. So I doubt you're going to stop now.

And really I DON'T think that is the point you've been trying to make at all. It's all here to read.

You've come across really badly on here. And last night was a shocker and very ironic given you're against damaging behaviour on SM.

And just for the record, it's 10 months.

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 11:28

Sure. No one is disputing that, what’s being said is her behaviour is very damaging to all of them. Not least her and their children,

Oh give over. And stop speaking for everyone. There's been lots of dispute about that.

LoekMa · 05/11/2021 11:37

@Bluntness100 for what its worth I dont think your behavior is in anyway out of line.
Like the PP mentioned, it would be best if she had people to cry to but she is just getting hyped and riled up by her twitter followers, who will have moved on to the next news before she knows it.
Yesterday at 6:45PM I had posted that IMO she was just saying anything she thought would get his attention (spousal support for life). Today she confirmed it.

Its odd how predictable that behaviour is.

Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?
sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 11:46

*@Bluntness100 for what its worth I dont think your behavior is in anyway out of line.

@LoekMa
*
You couldn't make this up.

Course you don't, because you were at it too. Read over.

Are you what they call a sock puppet when people are having a go?

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 11:47

Or is it flying monkey?

I'm as bad at the lingo as the bolding .

HattieHottoe · 05/11/2021 11:51

sunglasses you need to stop, you're verging on bullying other posters now.

Think you've made you point. You've repeatedly posted over and over your thoughts on Bluntness. Please stop now its not helping the discussion and its undermining your own points.

ChequerBoard · 05/11/2021 11:52

@sunglassesonthetable

Sure. No one is disputing that, what’s being said is her behaviour is very damaging to all of them. Not least her and their children,

Oh give over. And stop speaking for everyone. There's been lots of dispute about that.

So @sunglassesonthetable you don't think that any of AEs posts are damaging to her children?

Thesummeriwas16 · 05/11/2021 11:52

@Glassofshloer

I don’t think a year is long in the healing process.

But the initial shock and mud slinging should have settled down by now, she should have an idea of what she wants her life to be going forwards and taking the first steps to make it happen.

Yes, I agree it is damaging to her and her children but the woman is in pain and she has only just found out that her husband who she has two children with has posted on his instagram page that a woman 20 years younger has made him smile again - if that isn't inflammatory I don't know what is!
Thesummeriwas16 · 05/11/2021 11:55

@HattieHottoe

sunglasses you need to stop, you're verging on bullying other posters now.

Think you've made you point. You've repeatedly posted over and over your thoughts on Bluntness. Please stop now its not helping the discussion and its undermining your own points.

Have you read right through this thread - these posters have already made two other posters bow out with their implying they weren't well!
HattieHottoe · 05/11/2021 11:59

I have read the entire thread. That doesn't make it right to pick on people, either way.

Thesummeriwas16 · 05/11/2021 12:01

@HattieHottoe

I have read the entire thread. That doesn't make it right to pick on people, either way.
But you haven't pointed that out to Bluntness and Loekma have you!
Glassofshloer · 05/11/2021 12:07

Why does she not have anybody in real life?

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 12:09

*sunglasses you need to stop, you're verging on bullying other posters now.

Think you've made you point. You've repeatedly posted over and over your thoughts on Bluntness. Please stop now its not helping the discussion and its undermining your own points.*

Last night my mental health was mocked and questioned because I was disagreeing. Was I OK? Was I drunk? I I think actually the bullying was right there from a little sneering circle of posters.

Posters who decry abuse on SM laid it on thick without a care in the world about me. So again sorry if I don't take them very seriously and push back.

But ultimately like AE, I will be the one who will probably look stupid here. Ironic isn't it?

But you're right @HattieHottoe And. can't say I'm really say I'm 'enjoying' this. It's been a nasty experience.

So bye and good luck with those 'lovely' posters.

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 12:10

So @sunglassesonthetable you don't think that any of AEs posts are damaging to her children?

I think they ALL are.

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 12:12

HattieHottoe
I have read the entire thread. That doesn't make it right to pick on people, either way.
But you haven't pointed that out to Bluntness and Loekma have you!

You couldn't make it up.

Thesummeriwas16 · 05/11/2021 12:14

@sunglassesonthetable

HattieHottoe *I have read the entire thread. That doesn't make it right to pick on people, either way. But you haven't pointed that out to Bluntness and Loekma have you!*

You couldn't make it up.

I agree with you sunglasses
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 05/11/2021 12:43

Totally agree @Thesummeriwas16

Their interactions have been aggressive, accusatory, domineering and, at times, completely bizarre.

Bluntness100 · 05/11/2021 12:51

This really doesn’t need to be a bun fight, for rhe second time can we get back to the subject matter?

LoekMa · 05/11/2021 12:55

@Glassofshloer no idea..it may well be she does but you cant exactly send an adult to their bedroom so to speak and take away their phone. Its one thing to give advice and another thing to actually listen to it.
Clearly she has been speaking to lawyers though because she says she will try to post less accusatory things, I'm guessing someone familiarized her with the defamation clause and how mental anguish over a breakup isnt considered mitigating circumstances.

sunglassesonthetable · 05/11/2021 13:14

Tbh @HattieHottoe I'm not bowing to your good advice ( even though it is sensible).

You've read the entire thread you say, and you've picked me up on pushing back at some other posters -You've mentioned the word 'bully' . Yet not a mention of stuff that is much more aggressive and was done within a group.

Not very credible.

Thesummeriwas16 · 05/11/2021 13:39

@Bluntness100

This really doesn’t need to be a bun fight, for rhe second time can we get back to the subject matter?
Rather rich coming from you!
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