Team Ioan Gruffudd or Alice Evans?

[BabyBearRus]

I've been following the story around the breakup of Ioan and Alice. I haven't been a great fan of Alice in the past, but I do feel for her and her children right now. Who else thinks that Ioan has behaved atrociously to his family? According to his wife, he has been having an affair for a long while, and making her feel as though she was in the wrong for months.

I'd say she is having a breakdown. Somebody needs to do something. Its getting a lot worse. Its a cry for help.

Does she live in America currently? I can't help thinking she might be better supported here in the UK maybe? Though then her children's schooling would then be disrupted. Something has to happen though. I agree that she is heading for or in the midst of a breakdown. All those Instagram people calling her their inspiration need to just stop. This is far from inspirational.

Someone from her family needs to be intervening now. At least they have the money to look after her well.

A social media detox and a nice rest at the Priory so she can offload to a therapist and get some coping strategies in place wouldn't go amiss.

She should have gotten herself back to the UK once the marriage floundered. She would get a better settlement than her prenup and California divorce laws will give her.

[quote LoekMa]@Glassofshloer which is very easy to believe if you saw how she was bashing his Welsh name.
Also I dont get where the whole 20yr marriage narrative came from.
According to their divorce papers they split on 31st Dec/ New Years day 2020.
They were married in 2007 after she forced him to marry her. Thats the one mistake I agree he made. If you have to marry a woman because she gave you an ultimatum, you know deep down she isnt who you really want.
So they were married for 12 years at best.[/quote]
They were a couple for 20 years, I believe.

And ultimatums to marry - absolute tosh. No man can be forced to marry a woman. I applaud Alice for telling him that no ring and she's off, as she was almost 40 and wanted a family, not to have her time wasted.

Alice seems unstable, codependent and at this rate people are questioning her parenting when she can barely hold herself together.
She needs to realise that she's not the only person who has gone through heartbreak and set an example for her daughters future relationships.

And ultimatums to marry - absolute tosh. No man can be forced to marry a woman. I applaud Alice for telling him that no ring and she's off, as she was almost 40 and wanted a family, not to have her time wasted

Obviously. The Ultimatum was a bad sign from the get go. If he wanted to marry her earlier, he would have done so. Like I said. That is one point I agree that he made a huge mistake. Had he cut it off then, none of this would have happened, but alas here we are.

I’m not saying she was wrong to issue one, far from it, but I think it’s a sign things aren’t right. That’s on him as well as her.

I don’t know who I feel more sorry for, him, her or the kids. Definitely the kids. She actually wants him to pay for her till she dies. It’s unbelievable.

She does seem to be pulling right back on the accusation he cheated for years. I wonder if she’s been legally warned by her lawyers about baseless allegations.

She’s now moved to the fact the divorce is not final, thay even though they’d been split for a year it’s still cheating as she’s still legally married to him and that in her view makes it cheating, he’s still her husband even though they’ve been seperated for a year, so anyone he gets involved with before the divorce and since the separation is cheating in her view. He has to remain faithful till the divorce papers are signed.

I bet Bianca runs for the hills!

Spousal support is difficult for me. On one hand if a woman has given up a career to raise kids and support her husband in his ambitions for 15 years, I feel she is owed something as well as the kids (I mean some form of regular payment rather than a lump sum in the house).

But equally giving up your career for a man carries this inherent risk, and I don’t feel it’s ever a good option if I’m honest.

She’s going to make it difficult for herself getting well paid acting work when she looks like she can’t be trusted to turn up to a set on time.

I think spousal support until she dies is unreasonable and harks back to an earlier age when women didn't work, and maybe couldn't work once they had had kids.

That world is not this one, thank god. She should absolutely get a decent share of the assets to represent the support that enabled IG to earn the money that paid for said assets but I really don't think it's healthy to financially chain two people together for life in that way.

Spousal support until she dies. Note she says "which I am owed" not "legally entitled to".
She's saying anything she thinks will get his attention and that of his new partner. Quite sad really.

@DuchessOfDisaster

I bet Bianca runs for the hills!

Bet she doesn't.

Spousal support until she dies? Wow, that expectation sets women back by a couple of generations.

What’s the typical divorce split in California? is she likely to get SM for life?

She must be very scared from a financial perspective. Looks like he's worth $6M if Google is to be believed. Whilst that sounds a lot, if split its not a huge amount to maintain a 'celeb' lifestyle in California. I guess it will include maintenance that will include future earnings. From what she's been used to its probably going to be a big adjustment in lifestyle, with very little prospect for her getting employment in tinsel town. So may not last long.

I do feel sorry for her as the future must feel very scary at the moment.

@TokyoTammy

What’s the typical divorce split in California? is she likely to get SM for life?

Nope. California has a law stipulating that marriages over the 10yr mark are regarded as long term marriages so sometimes prenuptual agreements that are strongly against the weaker earner/wife can be thrown out. However if the other spouse is able to prove that despite 10+yrs having passed since the marriage begun, that they were separated for long periods of time the 10yr/long term marrige clause does not apply. She is entitled to child support until the youngest is 18.

And they have only been married for 8 years if you take the date of separation as 31.12.2020

No. They got married in 2007.

I have no way of estimating how long he would have to pay spousal support, however were he to remarry again that would definitely be taken into consideration.

Oh ok well in that case its even better that she has been actively posting all over the internet that he hardly lived with her and spends 7 months or more away from the marital home.
She's like the best intern his divorce lawyers could have hoped for, providing all that evidence to underscore his case against a long term marriage

I don’t think she will be awarded spousal support unless he wants her to have it. Not for life.

At fifty she’s able to get a job, and with the split of assets live a life not on poverty.

The days of a husband being a meal ticket for life are long gone. Plus she’s had a full time nanny from the day her first was born, like any other woman she could have worked. She elected not to and I suspect she is trying to elect to never work another day in her life