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Resent that mum never worked/had a job - causing rifts between us

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Waferbiscuit · 10/10/2021 10:19

My mother married right out of University and since then has been a SAHM/SAHW. She only ever held one job, over the summer, when she was 20 and and has never had a job since.

She has lived a very comfortable life - children at a young age, divorced but remarried quickly so no change in her financial circumstances, moderately successful husband and kids at home until they left when she was 48. Since then she has spent the last 40+ years travelling, pottering and quite frankly stretching out daily chores into the day. She is part of a weird generation of mc women who expected to be cared for and probably never expected to work.

By contrast I have worked FT since leaving University, now a single parent, still working and juggling everything.

The fact that mum has never worked means she's lived in a real bubble, and has very skewed views about public life and the world of work. This causes huge rifts between us and really affects our relationship.

  • She has very little concept of what work is like and the pressures of modern work so when I explain that I am stressed she thinks that it's my fault and I need to manage it.
  • She doesn't understand that people need to do work outside of 9-5
  • She has no real sense of what it's like to have someone instructing you/telling you what to do; she has literally been 'self guided' her entire life
  • She thinks it's easy to get a job and promotion so doesn't understand why they aren't forthcoming for me or my siblings.
  • She is deeply unproductive so thinks juggling means trying to do the dishes and laundry in the same morning and considers that 'busy-ness' to be on par with mine
  • She is very naive about money and assumes everyone is on a relatively good wage. She doesn't understand why I can't go part-time.
  • She dresses in organic frocks and proudly doesn't wear makeup or do her hair but her 'hippyness' is a privilege - she doesn't clock that other people actually have to look and dress professionally for work.
  • She doesn't help me in any way - financially or with DCs - because she's always too busy doing nothing at all, but she's 'very busy'.

I know I should be grateful that she's not working in a factory to scrape by, but her naiviety means there's an entire aspects of my life she doesn't understand and over the years it's caused real tensions. I partly resent that she doesn't get it and partly resent that she's had such an easy ride that she takes for granted or really considers her due.

Posting just to see if anyone else has the same problem and how they made peace with it.

OP posts:
smoko · 13/10/2021 14:02

My mother is exactly the same & have read this thread with great interest.

Mine's only late 50s but has lived a fortunate life off the back of my hardworking dad. Sometimes I wish my dad had divorced her so that she could have had a dose of reality & come down off her privileged pedestal.

Have had to stop speaking about work related matters because of her annoying comments about how I should demand a raise. She thinks promotions grow on trees doesn't get how anyone can live off less than 60K a year.

I don't see this as being a generational issue, but a lack of empathy & understanding for how most people live.

callmeadoctor · 13/10/2021 14:05

I think we can all agree that being a woman/wife/mother in the 60s was nowhere as easy as life is now.

callmeadoctor · 13/10/2021 14:06

Again as I keep saying, watch "Call the Midwife"

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 14:57

@Blossomtoes

but imagine you only had very limited choices of jobs and you hated them all because they were not what you truly are and they were not your life mission.

You mean like 99% of the workforce? I don’t know many people who even have a “life mission”, let alone achieve it simultaneously with earning a living.

Me & all my close circle like their job and are doing and fulfilling their life mission.

It is So/very important to like/love your job!

I do know some acquaintances who are not in their life mission. So they make sure they work/study towards fulfilling their life mission, finding the right job/position for them, and be happy in their job to share positive energy with people around them.

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 14:57

My vaccine thread was deleted.

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 14:58

The deep state is watching :)

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 14:59

@callmeadoctor

Again as I keep saying, watch "Call the Midwife"
I will watch it as well.
Lana07 · 13/10/2021 15:00

@callmeadoctor

I think we can all agree that being a woman/wife/mother in the 60s was nowhere as easy as life is now.
How lovely we have this progress.
Blossomtoes · 13/10/2021 15:01

I don’t even know what a “life mission” is! I’m pretty sure I don’t know anyone who’s got one.

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 15:07

@Blossomtoes

I don’t even know what a “life mission” is! I’m pretty sure I don’t know anyone who’s got one.
Your life mission is what you
  1. like/LOVE doing

  2. you are passionate about

  3. what activity makes you tick & feel alive, needed, useful, helpful for people and society

  4. what makes you wake up easily on Monday or your working day morning. Your working week flies by because you don't feel like a slave at work who goes to work just to survive financially/make your living and not to fulfill your career ambition.

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 15:12
mathanxiety · 13/10/2021 16:02

Have I missed some bestseller or popular podcast on 'life missions' and 'positive energy'?

What there me up on Monday morning is the thought of my bank balance 🙂

mathanxiety · 13/10/2021 16:03

@ILoveJamaica, there are millions of men out there faced with very limited choices.

HaveringWavering · 13/10/2021 16:12

I suspect that @Lana07 is an MLM bot!

Intercity225 · 13/10/2021 16:40

What is a MLM bot?

Billandben444 · 13/10/2021 19:17

Sometimes I wish my dad had divorced her so that she could have had a dose of reality & come down off her privileged pedestal.
Wow.
Double wow.

HaveringWavering · 13/10/2021 19:29

@Intercity225

What is a MLM bot?
A person brainwashed by a Multi-Level Marketing scheme.
Flobb · 13/10/2021 19:36

How absolutely lovely. Same here and really that’s all that matter in the end.

malificent7 · 13/10/2021 19:38

I'd love to do what i love ( pottering about, doing art work, gardening etc) but i don't pay the bills. So i gave to jobs i hate but pay a decentish wage.

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 19:40

@HaveringWavering

I suspect that *@Lana07* is an MLM bot!
Just like you.
speakout · 13/10/2021 19:44

I'd love to do what i love ( pottering about, doing art work, gardening etc) but i don't pay the bills. So i gave to jobs i hate but pay a decentish wage.

The two are not mutually exclusive. My hobby/interest is also my income.
Right now I am sipping tea, browsing the internet and doing some easy work

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 19:45

@mathanxiety

Have I missed some bestseller or popular podcast on 'life missions' and 'positive energy'?

What there me up on Monday morning is the thought of my bank balance 🙂

No, you haven't missed anything :).

Everything is described above.

Lana07 · 13/10/2021 19:47

@speakout

I'd love to do what i love ( pottering about, doing art work, gardening etc) but i don't pay the bills. So i gave to jobs i hate but pay a decentish wage.

The two are not mutually exclusive. My hobby/interest is also my income.
Right now I am sipping tea, browsing the internet and doing some easy work

Yes, so you are proof you can enjoy your job.

It's a lot to do with attitude too.

malificent7 · 14/10/2021 01:48

What is this hobby?

Snog · 14/10/2021 12:29

In your opening post you talk about making peace with this situation.

Sadly it is true that what's done is done and what's past is past. The times when you most needed your mother's support and love (your childhood) and when you wanted her support in raising your children have passed. She was not there for you in the way that you wanted her to be and the past cannot be changed. You are both now in the later stages of life with your mother realistically in her last chapter.

I think that you are understandably experiencing feelings of loss for what might have been. One of the feelings associated with loss is anger. I would recommend seeing a good therapist to help process those feelings.

After that one option would be to work to try to discover more about your mother's experiences. Her ambitions, constraints, frustrations in life. Her proudest achievements and her regrets, Your similarities and differences.

The mother daughter relationship is so primary and primal, it can be very difficult to navigate. I think focussing on your own emotional needs would be a good way forward.