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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

OP posts:
lilmishap · 08/10/2021 13:53

He’s guilt-tripping me about how I could do this so soon after his wife

What the same wife he split from then got with you 2/3 days later?

Shock Hmm

"I was so sure you were about to sell your house and buy me, I mean us, a new house. You big meanie how dare you not sell up for me after 3 whole months"

I hope he cringes about it at some point but that's unlikely

ChargingBuck · 08/10/2021 13:54

@CoastalWave

I couldn't be arsed reading all that. Enough red flags early on in your story.

Are you really that low in self confidence? Focus on sorting that out. Get rid of this loser.

If only you'd have been arsed, you'd see for yourself that OP has confidence in spades, & has deployed it to excellent effect.

Although as you weren't arsed - I'm interested in why you feel knocking OP for her presumed lack of confidence was going to ... inspire her to feel more confident?

Or maybe it's not the OP's confidence that is the issue here, & you were merely trying to boost your own by bullying someone else ...

Youdoyoutoday · 08/10/2021 13:55

Went back to read all your posts! So glad you've dumped him!!

Stay strong!!

DFOD · 08/10/2021 13:57

Come down on this like a ton of bricks.

  1. Long list of security stuff from PP
  2. Silence from you
  3. Alert family, friends, work, neighbours
  4. Report his voyerism crime to the police.
lwaxana · 08/10/2021 13:59

Sorry, just realised that the situation has moved on quite a lot since the post I was replying to. The thread was highlighted in 'Trending Now' and I didn't spot that it's been open for a while.

If you haven't already, please consider changing your PIN and locks. Also don't be afraid to tell your parents just enough so that they realise that it's more than a temporary breakup and they shouldn't let him in or pass messages on. Women's Aid may have some further useful safety tips and tactics to deal with the post-breakup harassment.

Well done for recognising this toxic situation for what it is and protecting yourself.

Nondescriptname · 08/10/2021 13:59

how devastated his mum is as she thought I was so nice

You are nice, he isn't.

If his mum doesn't know that, it's too bad.

Auntycorruption · 08/10/2021 13:59

He sounds AWFUL. Dump ASAP.

Please don't give him your debit card again, that's an easy way for him to abuse you and get you in trouble.

In fact i would cancel that card NOW and get a new one - he could have photographed it when you went to the loo and so have all the info he needs to spend online in your name.

PizzaBase · 08/10/2021 14:02

Neverkins

You have been brave and decisive - well done!

Auntycorruption · 08/10/2021 14:02

Be thankful you didn't get involved as a teenager. As a young woman it would have been even harder to escape him and your life would never have been the same.

Use the power of your age and wisdom for good now. Don't lower yourself to being his puppet.

BreadPita · 08/10/2021 14:04

I sometimes wonder if the whole "women's intuition" thing has been bad for women in general by creating a weird conflation between rational conclusion and mystical feelings.
I'm waiting for the day that one of these topics is "I found a bunch of severed heads in my new boyfriends attic. It's making me wonder whether he might not actually be a good choice for a long term partner, but am I being silly?".
OP, if it's not clear yet, yes, these are all major red flags.

CiderJolly · 08/10/2021 14:08

@BreadPita It’s because we’re mostly brought up to be nice, put others first, ourselves last. It’s shit.

Sexnotgender · 08/10/2021 14:11

Well done on binning off this loser. Your OP gave me the ick and I don’t even know him!

Thelittleweasel · 08/10/2021 14:15

@Neverkins

"Invest your savings" would be it for me. MLM?

WellLarDeDar · 08/10/2021 14:15

Stay strong OP! I have a feeling he's going to try every trick in the book to manipulate you into letting him back in. He honestly sounds like such a creep.

peoniesarejustperfect · 08/10/2021 14:20

OP - just read the whole thread and wanted to say how dignified you are being. Biggest worry would be the pictures, so maybe you should discuss these when you have the talk. Better to make it really clear that if he ever broke your trust with them, you wouldn't hesitate to go to the police etc. Not sure if you can do more to protect yourself with the photos. Please look after yourself. So pleased you've talked to a friend and hopefully your parents too. Flowers Flowers

lifehappened · 08/10/2021 14:20

He's skint and a prick

Neverkins · 08/10/2021 14:24

I know now that the red flags are very big ones, but somehow I convinced myself that maybe I had just got too used to being single and doing everything my own way. I even understood why he would want ‘us’ to buy a different house as I accepted I probably was being unreasonably guarded and selfish about my own space.

I wish there was some way to stop the waves of cringe/regret that I’m getting every time I think of him 🤦‍♀️ Biggest mistake ever.

OP posts:
Neverkins · 08/10/2021 14:25

@lifehappened

He's skint and a prick
Succinct and accurate 😅
OP posts:
Thulian · 08/10/2021 14:27

He’s guilt-tripping me about how I could do this so soon after his wife, how devastated his mum is as she thought I was so nice, how it’s all because of me that he hasn’t made any progress with finding his own place as he was so certain we would be living together

OMG, what an absolute ocean-going twunt.

Yeah because him starting a new thing 2-3 days after his wife ended it is not at all dodgy. And it’s well known how we all endure awful men just to make their mums happy. And how not being arsed to sort out accommodation because you have a nifty cocklodging scheme planned is a great thing to blame on your proposed victim by way of a guilt trip.

I mean Hmm Confused 🤦🏻‍♀️

Pipsquiggle · 08/10/2021 14:29

On posts like these I am always interested in who votes for 'YABU' - they can't all be mistakes can they?

greenmarlin · 08/10/2021 14:30

OMG trust your instincts and RUN!
He is a leech.

greenmarlin · 08/10/2021 14:31

Sorry also didn't realise it had been going for a while. Hope you are OK.

arootintootingoodtime · 08/10/2021 14:31

@Neverkins

I know now that the red flags are very big ones, but somehow I convinced myself that maybe I had just got too used to being single and doing everything my own way. I even understood why he would want ‘us’ to buy a different house as I accepted I probably was being unreasonably guarded and selfish about my own space.

I wish there was some way to stop the waves of cringe/regret that I’m getting every time I think of him 🤦‍♀️ Biggest mistake ever.

We all do stupid things! Don't feel bad. Abusive people are cunning and manipulative and prey on people looking to see the best in others.
CaveMum · 08/10/2021 14:32

Just be prepared that his guilt tripping may take a dark turn - suicide threats are not uncommon in these situations. Probably something along the lines of “I thought we had a future, there’s no point without you. I need to see you or I’ll do something stupid.”

Just remind yourself that it’s all a script that abusive men instinctively follow and that you are not responsible for him or his actions.

ChristmasFluff · 08/10/2021 14:32

The UK definition of harrassment is 2 texts after being told that you want to break contact.

Phone 111. You have said please don't call or expect any replies. And you told him to keep away.

He has already committed an offence. You have evidence of harrassment and possibly stalking, and can now block him - confident in the knowledge that you phone provider will have any further evidence needed.

But you need to contact the Police. Ask for the domestic violence officer if they seem to fob you off