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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 08/10/2021 13:19

@Neverkins no doubt he'll move on to find the next unsuspecting woman soon enough.

I knew a man like that once. He clearly has someone lined up for when his (at the time) current relationship hit skid row. And it happened more than once so he clearly just the way he operated. Just awful behaviour.

It does make one quite cynical about potential partners, knowing that there are clearly people out there who aren't really in relationships for love, caring and companionship.

lindjam · 08/10/2021 13:19

OP will you promise me that no matter how much of a noise/holy show he makes if he turns up, you WILL NOT open your door to him?

I know you think you know him but you clearly do not.

I would block to be honest.

Butterflyfluff · 08/10/2021 13:19

OP you are a superstar

This man is a 100% gobshite who knew you’d always ‘held a candle for him’ so he used that as his stepping stone after his wife binned him.

His stories about money were nonsense, as were those about not having sex because his marriage vows were too important

Stay strong, don’t listen to any of his shit, and always remember, he undoubtedly stole £20 cash back, literally from under your nose because he thought you were too besotted with him to even question it

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 08/10/2021 13:20

Too many 'clearly' sentences in my last post.

Imdoingitnow · 08/10/2021 13:21

You've managed this brilliantly. Don't blame yourself for not seeing what a nasty piece of work he is - we want to see the best in people and if you're not like that yourself it takes a while to see it in other people.

He'll go through all of some of these stages declaring his love and concern for you then anger and emotional blackmail and threatening to harm himself. He's probably lining up his next girlfriend/victim and he'll tell them a nasty story about you portraying himself as the innocent victim.

Keep strong and take it a day at a time. Make sure you have the support of your family and friends

lazylinguist · 08/10/2021 13:23

It's so reassuring to hear how resolute you are, OP. So many threads on here don't go that way, and the OP gives in under pressure to let herl creepy ex back in, and ends up justifying why he isn't that bad really and how he promises things will be different. Or her posts tail off and you know that's what's happened. Well done to you! Flowers

TheSecondMrsAshwell · 08/10/2021 13:26

He called and messaged a couple of times in the night - he’s not been nasty but seems very keen to talk and tell me he loves me. Lots of over the top ‘I’m worried about you. Tell me you’re ok’ type messages. He’s said a couple of times that he’s planning to come over to mine today after I finish work, so I did send one reply. I said ‘I’m sorry if you’re hurt or confused, but my decision is final. As I said earlier, I don’t want to talk further about it so please don’t come round again. I have made plans with friends for the weekend so I won’t be at home, nor will I be in [hometown].’

This is one of my favourite Mumsnet posts ever. You are a legend, OP.

Still1nLove · 08/10/2021 13:28

Good to hear you are standing firm

Neverkins · 08/10/2021 13:30

@lindjam

OP will you promise me that no matter how much of a noise/holy show he makes if he turns up, you WILL NOT open your door to him?

I know you think you know him but you clearly do not.

I would block to be honest.

I promise he will never ever be allowed into my house again. I literally don’t ever want to see his face again and wish I could just fast forward the next few days.

I hate the thought of causing a fuss but I will call the police if he turns up and won’t leave. I definitely wouldn’t hesitate to call the police if he even hinted at anything to do with the photos, but my sense is he probably just enjoys the power of knowing he has them and can look at them whenever he wants. I’m going to stay at my friend’s tonight and might well figure something out for tomorrow night as well.

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Fenelladepompom · 08/10/2021 13:32

Well done OP. I hope you're not replying to him now.

DFOD · 08/10/2021 13:34

As PP said don’t feel foolish that you trusted someone who love bombed you - how were you to know - but be v proud that you listened to you gut, you saw the pattern, you sought advice as a sense check and you acted swiftly.

However don’t be drawn or engage in any communication.

Silence is your super power.

He just wants some purchase by engaging - don’t give him that.

If he is still pestering and disrespecting your boundaries after a couple of days - cut and paste your exact words - where you stated that you will not be responding and requesting not to be contacted again.

If he keep contacts you one more time after that tell him that you will be contacting the police. Stalking is defined as 2 attempts at making contact after being requested not to. He is well over the line now already. The police will take it seriously.

If he ups the ante with suicide threats - don’t respond to him but again calmly call the police to do a welfare check. If it’s real the professionals will handle it - if it’s fake he will be humiliated.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

Tell anyone and everyone of relevance. You don’t need to give any personal details - just say that you are concerned about his erratic behaviour and your personal safety.

Take care and good luck.

CoastalWave · 08/10/2021 13:36

I couldn't be arsed reading all that. Enough red flags early on in your story.

Are you really that low in self confidence? Focus on sorting that out. Get rid of this loser.

Hattiehottie · 08/10/2021 13:38

The sex thing is interesting, this to me really emphasises that it was a purely transactional relationship for him. He couldn't actually go through with a normal, physically intimate relationship. Suspect apart from being a sponger financially, this aspect may have contributed to his ex wife leaving. Is it possible he is actually gay and uses women as beards? this could explain why he was so willing to belittle you and couldn't actually perform, he was simply playing a role of what he thought a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship should be rather than feeling it on an emotional level.

It makes no difference now but occurred to me re-reading your post.

Youdoyoutoday · 08/10/2021 13:39

Wow! I got as far as the breakfast thing in your post and just couldn't read any more, the guy is a dick, run for hills!! Please for the love of God, run!!

Butterflyfluff · 08/10/2021 13:39

@CoastalWave

I couldn't be arsed reading all that. Enough red flags early on in your story.

Are you really that low in self confidence? Focus on sorting that out. Get rid of this loser.

Why on earth do people join threads which are 30+ pages long and say they can’t be arsed to read it?

What do you honestly think you can offer that might not have been said before - if you bothered to check?

Fenelladepompom · 08/10/2021 13:40

There are exercises you can do to improve your attention span, CoastalWave.

Cocomarine · 08/10/2021 13:42

I would really try to put the photos to the back of your mind. Of course he might mention them or hint about them as a power play - ignore him. Unless it’s a threat to share which you should take to the police. But ignore any hints about personal viewing. The thing is, because they were about control, I don’t he’ll actually look at them. Partly because the act of taking them, getting you to pose for them, was the main purpose. But also partly because he no longer has control over you, so looking at them would only be a reminder of that. I expect that whatever he might say to try to upset you now, those photos would quickly be ignored for the “hit” of the next woman he’s pulling this shit on. So really try not to dwell on them Flowers

lwaxana · 08/10/2021 13:43

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/10/2021 13:44

If he took intimate photos of you whilst you were asleep that can be a crime - this was clarified in some cases last year on voyeurism even if you have consented to other images / him seeing you naked.

So even if he doesn't share the photos the fact he took them may be enough.

midsomermurderess · 08/10/2021 13:47

But @coastal:wave, you don't have to read it all. Click on the OP's 'all posts' at the end of any of her threads, or put your settings to highlight only her posts, and bingo, you can quickly see where things are with her. And I agree with a recent poster, why, over 800 posts in, do you think you, without bothering to see where things are up to, have anything useful or interesting to add?

dangerrabbit · 08/10/2021 13:48

Well done, OP! You have shown strength. Onwards and upwards!

DFOD · 08/10/2021 13:49

He has already committed a sex offence of voyerism by taking nude photos is you asleep. This is a crime and you should consider reporting it. It doesn’t matter that you didn’t report it originally. It would likely prevent him from distributing the other photos if he had a call from the police.

In addition even just threatening to share nude photos is a crime.

If you want to ensure he doesn’t distribute I would report him immediately rather than wait with fingers crossed.

You may not choose to press charges down the line but he may have previous and you might put your mind a rest that he is much less likely to go on to distribute.

pompomsgalore · 08/10/2021 13:50

@Hattiehottie

The sex thing is interesting, this to me really emphasises that it was a purely transactional relationship for him. He couldn't actually go through with a normal, physically intimate relationship. Suspect apart from being a sponger financially, this aspect may have contributed to his ex wife leaving. Is it possible he is actually gay and uses women as beards? this could explain why he was so willing to belittle you and couldn't actually perform, he was simply playing a role of what he thought a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship should be rather than feeling it on an emotional level.

It makes no difference now but occurred to me re-reading your post.

I think his sex issues are linked to the amounts he drinks.
Salayes · 08/10/2021 13:51

@CoastalWave

I couldn't be arsed reading all that. Enough red flags early on in your story.

Are you really that low in self confidence? Focus on sorting that out. Get rid of this loser.

Fair enough if you can’t be arsed to read it all, but it might be worth at least checking the updates before insulting the OP and advising her to do something she’s already done. Wink
JamieNorthlife · 08/10/2021 13:53

If he does turn up at yours and you call the police. can you also tell the police he has your photos ?
Maybe they can confiscate them.

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