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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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MrsTerryPratchett · 08/10/2021 10:05

To do list:

Change passwords
Change PIN
Check for a keylogger
Never speak by phone, only ever provable means
Keep the texts if they are at all dodgy (especially your clear ones about breaking up)
Make sure friend knows to check in on you
If he's ever had possession of your keys, change locks
If he's been on any of your devices, check there's nothing on them that's dodgy
Have a bloody great life without this wanker

Amiwronghere · 08/10/2021 10:21

Well done op,
Stay strong!!

ClawedButler · 08/10/2021 10:21

Bloody well done, OP. How are you getting on now?

arootintootingoodtime · 08/10/2021 10:27

Well done, OP! Glad to hear you're feeling strong and determined. I hope he goes relatively quietly.

PearlclutchersInc · 08/10/2021 10:28

Oh god! finish this one double quick!

PearlclutchersInc · 08/10/2021 10:28

Sorry should have RTFT

Tirediam · 08/10/2021 10:31

I’ve been reading but not commenting but just wanted to say well done OP! He sounds like my friends ex husband. Always a fucking victim, and a complete knob

TedImgoingmad · 08/10/2021 10:32

@AhNowTed

OP something similar happened to a friend of mine.

We're all 50s now.

So she got with a teenage crush. He was and still is physically very attractive.

It was like she felt finally accepted into the cool gang, 30 years later.

He would never had looked at her as a teen.

He very quickly was spending most of the week at her house, using her car, eating her food.

He has no real job, and a serious alcohol problem. Rents a room in a shared house.

He was basically using her for a warm bed.

It took her about 3 years to get rid of him.

My fellow Ted makes an observation that is very important. Finally being accepted into the cool gang . Anyone who feels that way, despite the financial and career success they have achieved, hasn't really grown up, in the sense of growing and gaining in confidence as an individual with self worth. That's whyI concur with others, and think OP ought to look at counselling or a bit of self help/reflection: why did this pathetic man from childhood years remain such a huge figure in her life, such that she got into a relationship with him despite all the glaring warning signs about his motives and character.

But, well done OP for dumping his sorry arse. Stay strong, don't engage with him.

50ShadesOfCatholic · 08/10/2021 10:37

You're doing great OP. Don't doubt yourself. When I read your posts you almost come across as afraid of him or in some way having to justify yourself or tiptoe around him. Yet he isn't at all concerned about bring rude to you and about you, stealing from you and just generally being awful... lying about getting his friend a job through you, shouting at you, taking photos when you're asleep - ugh he's a creep.
Find your anger and keep it close, it'll help you through any wobbles x

JennyForeigner · 08/10/2021 10:41

@ShinyMe

Keep us updated please - not just immediately, but long term.

OP has zero obligation or need to do that. That's entirely based on your curiosity, not OP's need. This thread was about OP needing help to clarify what she already knew, not about providing entertainment for everyone else.

It was very clear from my post that this was in the context of OP's safety, not 'entertainment.'

Wind your neck in or learn to read.

Alcemeg · 08/10/2021 10:43

Well done OP!!!! Flowers

Your messages are impeccable.

I hope he leaves you in peace soon.

TonTonMacoute · 08/10/2021 10:45

Don't be embarrassed at having fallen for this man, reeling people in is what these controlling people are really good at!

Be proud of the way you have seen right through him and have walked away!

billy1966 · 08/10/2021 10:45

Horrifying read, thank goodness you have ended things.

OP, please don't hesitate to call the police if he comes to your home.

He is dangerous and has broken the law taking photos of you naked without your consent.

He has stolen from you via your card.

Do not allow him into your home under ANY circumstances.

You can log your number with police so they come quickly.

Be very vigilant.

Well done for taking action.Flowers

JennyForeigner · 08/10/2021 10:51

I'm new Smile

Shame though. I think OP is amazing and up to her last few posts was worried. Instead it's just lovely how happy and liberated she sounds already.

Queencranberry · 08/10/2021 10:53

Not read the full thread, just your opening post, but from that it screams more red flags than a communist party convention and they are flapping hard in the breeze.

This is not a nice man - bin him off (and I rarely really say that) as fast as you can and what ever you do, DO NOT invest in one of his "business propositions" or move in with him.

Follow your instinct. It's warning you for a reason.

Pipsquiggle · 08/10/2021 10:56

Well done OP. He is a total dickhead. Stay strong.

Funnily enough a single friend of mine had just started getting late night flirty texts from the school heart throb (we are in our 40s!) and she was wondering whether to respond.
We all told her 'NO' - she deserved so much better. This is a man who 'peaked' when he was 18 and has never treated women well.

Your now ex just sounds pathetic - well done on dumping him

Upwherethebirdsfly · 08/10/2021 11:04

You’re worth a lot more than this. Don’t feel sorry for him, get rid, change the locks and let him get on. He sounds utterly toxic and you sound lovely, strong and successful. Don’t misplace lust with love either (not to say you are). Trust me, his behaviour won’t be masked by any feelings of love in 2 years time if you carry on. He sounds awful. X

FluffyTeddyBear · 08/10/2021 11:13

I have just read your updates and I feel sick. He sounds abusive, the sexual things gave me shivers. What a vile man.

Ticksallboxes · 08/10/2021 11:14

You can log your number with police so they come quickly.

In light of all the horrific things done to women by men in the last month I would definitely do this.

JanglyBeads · 08/10/2021 11:22

I take it you mean”without him”, @bibliomania!

Well done OP, for that last message.

Overthehillandfartaway · 08/10/2021 11:43

Just wanted to say, OP, and to anyone in a similar situation now or has been in the past, OR is even contemplating it now...you haven't been stupid or naïve, this is a very common situation.

As humans we have this need to be accepted , especially by people we think were or are better than us. If you were not a cool kid at school or were bullied or ignored for whatever reason, that feeling of rejection never truly goes away either.

The hot girl or boy finally noticing you has had films and TV episodes made about it, but it never ends in a happily ever after.

It is also amazing how often the hot boy or girl may still be a hot adult, but that privilege that they carried with them in school doesn't translate into anything useful in the real world, and they are often are losers with no money, friends or career .

Thulian · 08/10/2021 11:49

So glad you've got rid OP, but please take care just in case he's really dangerous. If you are going away, make sure your home is secure and I'd check when arriving and leaving in case he hangs around outside.

I hope that doesn't seem victim-blaming but just in the spirit of MrsTerryPratchett's earlier list. Wrong'uns like this can get very nasty when dumped.

bibliomania · 08/10/2021 11:49

Yes, an unfortunate typo on my part, @JanglyBeads That'll teach me to post before I have coffee!

TaRaLa · 08/10/2021 11:50

Huge well done OP. You did realise quite quickly and like the previous poster said, it happens a lot and nothing you did wrong.

TatianaBis · 08/10/2021 12:06

OP this thread takes me back to my late 20s when I finally got together with a boy I had grown up with, been in love with as a teenager, and stayed in touch with through uni and beyond. It seemed like the stars were finally aligning.

Except in a relationship he turned out to be very different to how I'd imagined and how he'd appeared as a friend: he was very selfish & self-focused and a combination of needy and arsey. After 3 months I packed it in. It's so good to have the dream become a reality, so you can move on and never waste a speck of time over what might have been.

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