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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Theblacksheepandme · 08/10/2021 08:52

Please don't feel embarrassed OP as you have nothing to be embarrassed for. Men like that can be very convincing. There wouldn't be so many similar stories by other people if they weren't. Try to have a nice weekend and don't have any further contact with him.

Closetbeanmuncher · 08/10/2021 09:02

Run for the hills, I'm deadly serious.

What you have there is a parasite.

To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?
Staryflight445 · 08/10/2021 09:03

I think you should contact the police about the images. Also I’m worried that he’ll turn up to yours unannounced.

Can someone stay with you op?

MuthaFunka61 · 08/10/2021 09:03

I'm also cheering you on OP,well done.
A suggestion for you is to mute the notifications from him if you don't want to block him right now.
It may give you some piece of mind and keep you in charge of any interactions.

G'luck @Neverkins,you're doing great! Flowers

Timetoretiretospain · 08/10/2021 09:08

@Phoebesgift

You're a 36 year old intelligent woman. How can you not have seen this man for what he is from the first date?
Oh be quiet !
Timetoretiretospain · 08/10/2021 09:09

Well done OP - wishing you all the best for the future x

PocketPeanuts · 08/10/2021 09:12

@Neverkins

Thanks to all of you who left messages over night. It’s really lovely to wake up to so much encouragement.

He called and messaged a couple of times in the night - he’s not been nasty but seems very keen to talk and tell me he loves me. Lots of over the top ‘I’m worried about you. Tell me you’re ok’ type messages. He’s said a couple of times that he’s planning to come over to mine today after I finish work, so I did send one reply. I said ‘I’m sorry if you’re hurt or confused, but my decision is final. As I said earlier, I don’t want to talk further about it so please don’t come round again. I have made plans with friends for the weekend so I won’t be at home, nor will I be in [hometown].’

I know it would be better to ignore him, but I wanted to make it very clear that I don’t want to see him. Now I’m worried I might have made it too clear and he actually will turn up somewhere. Fortunately he wouldn’t be able to get anywhere near me at work, and I don’t think he’d try there anyway.

I can’t believe that only yesterday, despite being concerned enough to start this thread, I still believed I loved him. As soon as so many of you validated that the red flags weren’t minor it was like I had permission to stop, and it was almost instant. I’m not even upset (at the moment), just really embarrassed and also creeped out by him.

It's understandable. You had a picture of him in your head that was distorted by the idealised version of him you've been clinging on to since your teens.

There's a great quote from one of my favourite shows: 'When you look at someone through rose coloured glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.'

You were wearing those red-tinted glasses and now that you've taken them off the flags are obviously red.

Timetoretiretospain · 08/10/2021 09:15

Well said @PocketPeanuts !

FirewomanSam · 08/10/2021 09:16

An old family friend of mine got into a very similar sounding situation about ten years ago. Swept off her feet by a very good looking man (in her eyes anyway, I always found him a bit slimy) who was utterly charming (again, in her eyes) and absolutely full of tall tales. He apparently had some vaguely-defined, very successful business in another country which was making him practically millions, as he loved to tell everyone at every opportunity, but his money was always ‘tied up’ in something or other so she continually had to pay for things or lend him money until his ‘cash flow issues’ were resolved (meanwhile he picked up a few shifts in his mate’s pub ‘just to help him out’, not because he needed a job or anything of course). He moved in with her after about two weeks, having previously been sleeping on a mate’s sofa because of… some reason that was no doubt very legit and not at all made up.

He would brag about all these fancy cars he owned but none of us ever saw any of them. And of course he had a bitch of an ex wife who had screwed him over, wouldn’t let him see his kids, entirely not his choice etc etc… that old chestnut! But it soon became apparent that there was considerable overlap with his last ‘girlfriend’, with whom he also had a child, and his wife. He was extremely aggressive and competitive too and loved to talk about all the fights he’d been in.

There was a massive family falling-out when she went around various relatives asking to borrow five-figure sums to help him ‘release’ some of his assets (I’m not sure how that was supposed to work). Unsurprisingly, everyone said no.

There was just absolutely no telling her. Multiple people raised concerns over and over again and she would just laugh them off. He was a god in her eyes, this amazing talented successful macho man who had picked her, out of all the women in the world, and she couldn’t believe her luck. All the other women in his life had been evil bitches who had mistreated him and tried to take his money and she was going to be the woman who finally took care of him.

Our families lost touch not long after and I think of her often and wonder how she’s doing. Facebook suggests they got married and had several kids and I really dread to think what her life must be like with him.

I’m so glad you’ve woken up and seen him for what he is, before you got sucked in any further. My skin crawled reading your post and I am just so relieved you’ve ended it!

Moonbelly · 08/10/2021 09:22

I think you have done amazing and your boundaries are actually really good. You knew there were red flags, you sought advice and you have acted on it. Given this was a fantasy man in every sense - long term crush, intense love bombing etc, I think you have done amazingly! I hope he leaves you and your parents alone and best wishes for your future.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/10/2021 09:23

OP read your first post and felt horrified by your description. By the time I got to your last one I was so impressed and I know it sounds daft, proud of you.

You've done the right thing. Obviously deep down you knew and you've followed your gut.

All I can I can is well done OP. Sending you all the good vibes as you get through this.

ILoveJamaica · 08/10/2021 09:26

I can totally see how the 'my dream crush' finally wanting to go out with you could suck you in fairly quickly, especially if you had a strong physical connection

They don't even have sex.

washingmachines4 · 08/10/2021 09:30

Run! Very very fast!

ArthurBloom · 08/10/2021 09:30

@Neverkins

Thank you everyone. I’m almost relieved that opinion is so unanimous, because I’ve been starting to feel so sad about the whole situation and isolated due to feeling unable to talk to my friends.

We don’t even have sex. He likes
to undress me and look at me (which sounds creepy and gross written down) but he can’t perform in bed because he says he took his marriage vows so seriously that it feels wrong to have ‘full sex’ with another woman yet.

I get the feeling he’s not going to be easy to break up with.

I mean if this doesn't tip you off, nothing will.
washingmachines4 · 08/10/2021 09:33

sorry, posted without seeing the final updates - well done for being firm and leaving. Definitely the right decision!

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 08/10/2021 09:35

Well done-I bet you’re relieved now!

CaveMum · 08/10/2021 09:38

You might want to tell your manager in confidence just in case he tries to contact you/turn up at work. Also don’t be afraid to threaten him if he continues to harass you, you’ve politely asked him not to contact you but I suspect he will, as with everything else he’s done, push at your boundaries to see what the limits are. Be very firm with them.

Have a good day at work and a lovely weekend, you deserve so much better than him.

JollyHolly30 · 08/10/2021 09:39

I'm so impressed with the way you've handled this OP. Obviously your spidey senses must have been tingling for a long time, underneath the surface. Stay strong!

ILoveJamaica · 08/10/2021 09:48

I recommend placing a pair of men's size 13 boots on your door step. Let him think there's a big guy inside.

SwordfromtheStone · 08/10/2021 09:48

@PocketPeanuts that is a fantastic quote and so true!

OP hope you are OK, you really are best off out of it x

2bazookas · 08/10/2021 09:50

Read your own post. Putting it all down in words , in one place, is a very good way to get things straight in your head and see a situation more clearly.

You already know what he is, your gut feeling is telling you to get out now before worse happens. Don't wait.

I strongly recommend you ask your bank to cancel the card he used ASAP and get a new one issued.

HappyDays101010 · 08/10/2021 09:52

Keep us updated please - not just immediately, but long term

Thats not really how mumsnet works

FairNotFair · 08/10/2021 09:55

I'm intrigued by the 4% who think the OP is BU Confused

Wheresthebeach · 08/10/2021 09:57

Well done for ditching him OP. He's a first class creep.

He'll probably beg/threaten etc to get another chance but if you steadfastly ignore most of these losers sulk off.

DukeofEarlGrey · 08/10/2021 10:00

Really well done OP. I think your second message to him was excellent. It would be great if you were able to go no contact immediately but the second one makes your views unequivocally clear and I think more likely to shut him down fast.

I also think your embarrassment is a good sign - your instincts were right, you pursued objective opinions (ours!) and had the courage to act fast. The scales have now fallen from your eyes and you should allow yourself enough time to reflect and recover, safe in the knowledge that you have done exactly the right thing.

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