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To be beginning to have a bad feeling about new boyfriend?

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Neverkins · 07/10/2021 15:34

I’m 3 months into a new relationship with a man I knew years ago. I always fancied him but he wasn’t into me. We lost touch after I went to uni, he stayed in our home town and got married. I contacted him over the years, mostly between my two long term relationships. He always seemed very focused on how attractive/slim I am ‘now’. He contacted me very very soon after his wife left him (I didn’t know at the time but it was 2/3 days). We met up, one thing led to another and we’ve been dating since. He told me he loved me very quickly and I reciprocated very enthusiastically. I felt head over heels and couldn’t believe he finally loved me.

I’m sure there are red flags in some of the backstory but I still mostly feel that I really am in love with him. There are some minor things bothering me though, mostly about money.

I work in a large firm I joined as a graduate. I’ve worked my way up the ladder and earn a very good salary in a part of the country with low cost of living. New guy was very nosy about my income from day 1, googling my job and firm to find out what I might earn. Asked lots of direct questions until I told him an approximate figure. He became belligerent and argumentative, told me that it wasn’t much money and he earns 10k more than me anyway. Now, I don’t particularly care what he earns as I can and do support myself, but the way he reacted was really odd. It seemed like he was trying to put me down/in my place and it was interesting that he volunteered no information about his own income until he knew mine and could compare. Also, I have some very good reasons to believe he doesn’t earn the money he claims he does.

He left his phone open with a WhatsApp conversation on the screen in which he was ‘bragging’ really grossly to a new friend of his about how much money I earn and that I’ve agreed to get him (this friend I’ve never met) a job in my firm. Needless to say I’d said no such thing and never would.

I make sure I pay for at least half of our dates and offer to pay for them all. We’ve enjoyed some very nice meals out and some lovely hotels so I’ve spent good money on him and vice versa. One morning we went to a cafe for breakfast and he disappeared off to the toilet after we’d both finished eating. He was taking a while and I felt awkward waiting for him in front of empty plates in a busy place so paid and found him outside smoking. He shouted at me for ‘embarrassing’ him by paying. This was a £15 bill when he’d been fine with my buying dinner and hotel rooms. 10 minutes later he apologised and said his outburst was because he isn’t used to women paying for things, that no woman has ever so much as bought him a drink before and he doesn’t know how to handle it.

He’s asked me a lot about what savings I have, and tells me he has great business ideas for me to invest in. Is very keen to bring this up in frequent conversations and talks about introducing me to business associates of his.

Despite supposedly earning more money than me, being 4 years older than me (40 years old), living in a very inexpensive part of the country and never moving out of our home town, has never owned property. Obviously there’s no problem with renting but it just doesn’t make sense for someone in his supposed position.

Within a week of meeting up he was talking very seriously about living together. Seemed very keen on me selling my home and us buying somewhere together. When I took it at face value and asked how we would structure it, what sort of price range we’d be considering, he fluffed around and gave me some noncommittal answer about how I should definitely buy it myself for my own legal protection. It seems like he just wants me to provide somewhere for him to live that’s convenient for him and to his taste. He’s living back with his parents as he generously (in his words) let his wife stay in their rented home.

We were at a local pub a couple of nights ago - just the two of us (and nobody we knew in there), and were taking it in turns to buy the drinks. It’s a very standard pub I’ve visited many times, where a glass of wine is around £5-6 and there’s nothing expensive by the glass. A pint of lager/ale and a glass of wine is always

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Treacletoots · 08/10/2021 07:51

Well done OP! He sounds just like my exH and I'm sorry to say it took me 6 years to get rid of that bell end, right down to belittling my income when I made double what he did and being a total cocklodger.

I don't think he'll actually give you too much hassle, he's probably too lazy to bother but I'd just be sure to make sure he knows any photos of you are to be deleted or you'll call the police, then block him. You don't need to speak to h ever again, so why let him message you?

icelolly12 · 08/10/2021 07:55

"He called and messaged a couple of times in the night - he’s not been nasty but seems very keen to talk and tell me he loves me. Lots of over the top I’m worried about not being able to access your money you. Tell me you’re ok"

He ran to you two days after his wife left him/. He has no assets. He's living in a dire situation. Of course he could work hard and turn his own life around, but entitled losers like this think it's their right to take it from someone one else. And takes a few weeks of love bombing as opposed to years of hard work. Good riddance and well done OP

Missusblusky1 · 08/10/2021 07:56

OP your thread really resonates with me. I was in a very similar relationship to you, liked someone from afar for a few years, he was never into me until his last gf dumped him. It was all very whirlwind, too much too quick, wanted to move in with me, have children, meet his family, all within weeks. I got swept up by it all, he was so attentive, so caring, nothing of ever happened experienced before. But little by little over a couple of months he would test me be going awol when we were supposed to call or meet, he drank a lot, relied on viagra, said loads of women were after him to see my reaction!!!!

It took me almost a year to break free but one night we were arguing (I was crying, he was shouting) and he just switched, the mask slipped massively and I could see he had no empathy or love for me, called me names and said he’d preferred my friend anyway.

I finally dumped him and I was hounded by constant calls and texts. Started off very sweet - I miss you, please give me another chance etc. Sending emails to me work, constant hounding me to change my mind. Threatened suicide! I was nice at first, replying saying I don’t want a relationship but I wish you the best. Then because he didn’t get what he wanted he stepped up a gear, contacting my family, friends and work colleagues!!!! Saying I don’t understand why she’s done this there must be another reason and nothing to do with him?!? He just couldn’t believe someone would dare dump him.

I saw him in person and asked him to stop - he was a complete coward and dissolved in crocodile tears when I confronted him but I confirmed that he knew why it ended and to stop involving other people. He agreed to me face but as soon as I left
he didn’t, and started badmouthing me to other people with nasty untrue rumours. That was difficult.

It took me threatening the police and blocking him to get him to stop. He then started bragging about another girl he was seeing quite shortly after me to other people with the intent of making me jealous, after feeling really shitty about dumping him , it soon snapped me back into reality and I started feeling less romantic feelings and more pity for him. Very very sad little man.

Honestly, after 3 months it shouldn’t be this way. Look up narcisstic personality disorder and trauma bonding, I found the research helped me understand and more importantly, keep away from him. There were times I caved and unblocked him a few months later but when I did I was met with a barrage of abuse. No messages from me, but as soon as he saw I unblocked him just started up again. I blocked him again and kept him blocked. They show their true colours when they realise you aren’t changing your mind, be very prepared for that. And tell everyone you know, family, friends, work colleagues so they know, especially your parents. And don’t worry about the pictures, I’ve been there and threatened him with the police; it’s 100% a crime and a way to manipulate you into doing what he wants. We all make mistakes, forgive yourself for that.

Sorry for the long post, just wanted to say I’ve been there. These people just don’t take no for an answer, you are WELL rid, trust me. If you have any doubts he’ll show his true self soon; they always do. Good luck op, rooting for you.

Missusblusky1 · 08/10/2021 07:57

Ps like yours, my ex had no mortgage or assets, had rented all his life (even after 50 years old) and moved from place to place to place, now I know why.

Borderterrierpuppy · 08/10/2021 08:01

Well done Op
Hold firm he will probably try every trick in the book to reel you back in.
Reread this thread and don’t feel embarrassed, we have all made mistakes in relationships at times. Keep talking to your good friends and do go straight to the police if he threatens sharing the photos xxx

Howshouldibehave · 08/10/2021 08:01

I bet his ex wife has a few stories to tell about him!

legosunqueen · 08/10/2021 08:01

Well done for trusting your instincts & being resolute. He sounds vile, but you weren't to know that. Have you thought what you might do if he turns up at your house, could a friend come to stay for the weekend? Thanks

Missusblusky1 · 08/10/2021 08:02

Oh and he also had a massive interest in my finances and told me what to do with them!!

BoxOfDreams · 08/10/2021 08:03

I can’t believe that only yesterday, despite being concerned enough to start this thread, I still believed I loved him. As soon as so many of you validated that the red flags weren’t minor it was like I had permission to stop, and it was almost instant. I’m not even upset (at the moment), just really embarrassed and also creeped out by him.

It's understandable OP. He's been in your head as a fantasy love story, your happy ever after, for decades and you were willing this relationship to work so hard that you wilfully ignored the red flags. The fantasy had to be real, reality was an annoying nagging doubt that would derail your perfect love story if you gave it head space.

Fortunately he's overstepped the mark now on several occasions, and your natural sense of decency and fairness has overridden your infatuation.

He's used you, he's played you, he doesn't really want you but as they say, nobody falls in love faster than a man in need of a roof over his head. Men like him are incapable of love.

You sound amazing and I'm so glad you have family and friends who now know the situation and will support you. Stay strong and don't take any shit

AlexaShutUp · 08/10/2021 08:09

Well done, OP, and stay safe. If you don't want to be away from home, could you get someone to come and stay with you over the weekend?

ThreeLocusts · 08/10/2021 08:18

You're underthinking massive red flags. I'd say have a couple more nice dates with him to enjoy the fact that the tables have turned, if you can be that detached. Then get the hell out

MinnieGirl · 08/10/2021 08:20

Get your locks changed today for your home. You might think he hasn’t had a key but I wouldn’t trust him. It will make you feel safer.

Contact the bank and tell them. Be honest and say there’s a chance he may try and access accounts. Ask for a new card and change your pin. And ask them to increase vigilance on all your accounts.

And tell the neighbours. You don’t need to go into details, but if they know there’s a chance that he may turn up they can keep a look out.

Keep all his txts and voicemails as you may need to show the police if he starts to be annoying. And if he shows up and starts banging on the door or even sitting outside in his car, phone the police immediately and say you are being stalked. Do not open your door to him or answer his calls.

You’ve done so well, and we’ve all got your back!

anon2334 · 08/10/2021 08:21

Sounds like he is after your money oh and the cost of the pub I bet he bought some cigarettes that’s why it came to so much more. You said he smoked and it’s expensive to smoke. Run woman run

Folklore9074 · 08/10/2021 08:26

RUN RUN RUN!!!!

OnwardsAndSideways1 · 08/10/2021 08:29

She has run!

Crankyoldboiler · 08/10/2021 08:33

@Neverkins

Thank you everyone. I’m almost relieved that opinion is so unanimous, because I’ve been starting to feel so sad about the whole situation and isolated due to feeling unable to talk to my friends.

We don’t even have sex. He likes
to undress me and look at me (which sounds creepy and gross written down) but he can’t perform in bed because he says he took his marriage vows so seriously that it feels wrong to have ‘full sex’ with another woman yet.

I get the feeling he’s not going to be easy to break up with.

I think you answered your own question in your first post. The prior question is why you are attracted to him? I am wondering if there is any kind of pattern here? Look after yourself and please find someone to talk to who will support you during the break up.
FatCatThinCat · 08/10/2021 08:38

If he does turn up don't let him draw you into an argument or play games with your head. Whatever he comes up with just repeat that it's over, you're not interested and he needs to leave, like a stuck record until he gets the message.

TinyTear · 08/10/2021 08:38

@Neverkins

Thank you everyone. I’m almost relieved that opinion is so unanimous, because I’ve been starting to feel so sad about the whole situation and isolated due to feeling unable to talk to my friends.

We don’t even have sex. He likes
to undress me and look at me (which sounds creepy and gross written down) but he can’t perform in bed because he says he took his marriage vows so seriously that it feels wrong to have ‘full sex’ with another woman yet.

I get the feeling he’s not going to be easy to break up with.

All this and you don't even get a shag out of it? Run for the hills! definitely!
Folklore9074 · 08/10/2021 08:40

Just read your updates OP! So glad you have sent the messages and ended things. Stay strong. I hope he doesn't turn up at your parents or your's. And don't feel silly, he went to some trouble to blindsight you. It can take some women years to realise when they have one of these types. You've done really well.

CiderJolly · 08/10/2021 08:45

@Neverkins I think you’re awesome for handling this with dignity. If he causes any issues call the police.

nannybeach · 08/10/2021 08:46

Bit late to the party, but well done my DD had a bloke exact like this. He had a big wage (aparently) but never actually spent a penny in 3 years. Pretty sure he latched onto her because she had a house, although shes a single parent. I never liked him, but had to accept her choice. Thank God hes history.

LibrariesGiveUsPower45321 · 08/10/2021 08:47

@Phoebesgift

You're a 36 year old intelligent woman. How can you not have seen this man for what he is from the first date?
ODFOD. Unless you’ve been in an abusive relationship you probably don’t understand just how charming these men can come across. They start out nice and it slowly slides. The OP is intelligent enough she realised his game only 3 months in.

Well done OP.

TinyTear · 08/10/2021 08:48

Doh, posted too soon, glad you did the right thing!
Good luck and next time I will read the whole thread before replying

Jaguar77 · 08/10/2021 08:48

It starts with " love_bombing" and then the controlling behavior begins.

Run don't walk

ArranMumma · 08/10/2021 08:52

@3luckystars

Best £27 you ever spent! It saved you years of hassle with this man.

Well done x

Hahahaha brilliant!