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How do I make it clear that I’m not interested in this person

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Ceriane · 13/09/2021 23:20

There is this guy who I met several years ago while taking in part in an event to do with a hobby I have been involved with since my teenage years, we got talking and became friends, well to be honest it was more acquaintances, I got a sense that he fancied me but I was in a relationship at the time.

A few years ago, he got back in contact and started turning up at every event, and after the events I always go out for drinks with a group of people, so to be polite told him he was welcome to come along. This was all okay but then he started coming to every single one, and following me around, never leaving my side, when I’m socialising afterwards and coming out for drinks every single time.

To me and the other people involved in this hobby he is a “friend” from when we did the event we were all in years ago. When I say friend, what I really mean is a polite way of saying “you’re a nice guy, but I’m just not into you”. I have had a couple of events I wasn’t able to go to due to an ongoing condition, when I’m not there he sends get well cards, it’s a ongoing condition that flares up at times, not one off illnesses, if people were to send me get well cards for this I’d have them all the time so not really appropriate and although he is trying to be nice, I wish he wouldn’t as it’s like he’s trying too hard and trying to make me feel obligated, or maybe I’m reading too much into this.

He messaged me a few times to ask me to go out with him one on one, I wasn’t sure whether to assume this was a date kind of thing or just as friends, I didn’t want to assume he likes me in that way when I could have it all wrong. I assumed this to be a date and I know I’m not interested in him in that way, so I made an excuse, he asked a few times, but I said I was busy or made an excuse thinking he’ll take the hint and move on, realise I don’t feel that way and find someone who does. He didn’t seem to be taking the hint, left it open as “well let me know when is best for you.” again I tried to give him the brush off, politely.

I went on holiday for two weeks and I never check my social media on holiday, that’s just one of my things, I take a break not just from work but from social media as well, friends and family members can ring or text my mobile if it’s urgent. I came home to several messages, he’d asked me out again, and this was followed by several messages such as “is everything okay? I’m concerned you haven’t replied to my message. Is everything okay health wise? Have I said something wrong” again I said I’d been away and in the end, stopped responding to his messages. I felt bad about ghosting him but he didn’t seem to be taking the hint.

He stopped asking me, but continued to turn up at the events. I don’t put much on Facebook but when I do, he pops up under every photo, normally ones I’ve been tagged into by someone else and says “let me know when your next event is” he finds out anyway off the website, we advertise our events to the public.

He creeps around friends and family members who are also involved in these events, as though he thinks if he’s in with them, he is automatically in with me and there seemed to be an increasing desperation about it, which is off putting. Other people had gone from saying “awww he’s so sweet, he’s such a nice guy” to realising this is getting to be unwanted attention. The group leader even came over and asked if he was bothering me, don’t think he realised I knew him. By this time he must know I don’t feel that way about him, but he was continuing to pursue me, that’s if that’s what this is, he’s never come right out and said he has feelings for me or anything like that or hinted that he likes me as more than a friend or even asked me if I’m seeing anyone. It would be easier to let him know I’m not interested if he did, as I don’t want to jump the gun and assume anything.He doesn’t know anything about my relationship status or history or if I’m even straight, but I’m getting a sense of “I’m a nice guy, I’ve done all the right things, you should feel obligated, how dare you not want me” sense of entitlement and I don’t like it, again that could be me reading too much into it.

Anyway I didn’t hear from him for a couple of years and just thought he’d taken the hint and was in the past, then in lockdown we did chat on social media once or twice, didn’t think anything of it, just that people are lonely in lockdown and it makes people want to connect or reconnect, I spoke to several friends I hadn’t seen for a long time in lockdown so didn’t see this as any different.

Then towards the end of lockdown, I don’t put anything on Facebook but every now and again I’d get a random like from him from photos unrelated to anything from several years ago and it freaked me out. Again he started asking to meet up and I thought “where is the harm in meeting up just as friends” so I did. I know full well I’m not attracted to him.

He now keeps asking about events again and I have a feeling he is going to start turning up at every one, he has messaged to say when would I like to meet up next, I just said “oh I’m really busy over the next few months, catching up with people after lockdown and all that” he said “okay” but I’ve received another email recently to say “don’t forget to let me know when you are free to meet up” again I said about how busy I am. He has come back with “well if you do get some free time let me know”. I don’t want to be mean, but I can’t seem to fizzle this person out, people have said “ah, but he’s a friend, he’s lonely, where’s the harm meeting up as long as he knows where the boundaries are” but why just because I’m single does that mean I have to keep spending time with someone I’m not interested in, why should the only acceptable excuse be I’m in a relationship. If I’m single that means I’m free to do whatever I like not obligated to spend all my time with some bloke just because he’s lonely and he likes me!!!

This is a small problem but it’s really beginning to stress me out.

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QueenBee52 · 14/09/2021 00:08

Why have you not Blocked this man...

it would be a good starting point..

You need to stop being polite and say.. D'you know what.. you're crowding me and I need you to step back... thank you

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 01:25

It’s not a case of just blocking him, we have mutual friends and he turns up at events open to the public, he’s not someone off a dating site. It annoys me that he knows where I am on those days as I can’t stop him turning up, and people around me are of the “awww isn’t it sweet” mindset, the people around me don’t get why I feel so uncomfortable with unwanted male attention.

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Tallisimo · 14/09/2021 01:34

You can block him from your own social media stuff, phone etc though. He invites you out? Just say no thanks. He keeps messaging you? Ask him to stop as it’s making you feel uncomfortable. Confide in a couple of friends who also attend the events he turns up at and ask them to ‘rescue’ you if he is trying to monopolise your time. Don’t tell him stuff. Be non comital if he gets into conversation with you.

QueenBee52 · 14/09/2021 01:40

Block him

MorriseysGladioli · 14/09/2021 01:46

Just tell him.
Say he is too full on, you're not interested in a relationship, and you don't appreciate being pestered.

GreyCarpet · 14/09/2021 01:53

Why are you responding to his email/messages at all?

The next time he messages you telling you to let him know when you are free, just tell him that you won't be doing that and you want him to stop asking you. No 'sorry' or anything amd no excuses. Just No.

Whe the group leader asked if he was bothering you, what did you say? The group leader is inappropriate position to tell him he's not welcome at these events any more.

Stop being so 'nice'. You said several times in your post that he's not taking the hint. So stop hinting and tell him directly.

And as for the people.saying what's the harm in meeting him as long as he knows where the boundaries are, don't feel obligated, he clearly isn't seeing your boundaries or is ignoring them. Neither is good.

He's behaving like a dick but you need to be clear in the message you are sending him and, currently, you're not being.

GreyCarpet · 14/09/2021 01:54

@Ceriane

It’s not a case of just blocking him, we have mutual friends and he turns up at events open to the public, he’s not someone off a dating site. It annoys me that he knows where I am on those days as I can’t stop him turning up, and people around me are of the “awww isn’t it sweet” mindset, the people around me don’t get why I feel so uncomfortable with unwanted male attention.
Of course you can block him!

And it doesn'tatter what other people think. Why are you so bothered about that?

simitra · 14/09/2021 02:22

This sounds like stalking!

Do you have a couple of male friends in the group who can have a polite word and let him know that he is making you uncomfortable and should make himself scarce?

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 02:32

Looking back, for a while when I completely stopped responding to his messages I felt so bad about it, but now I’m thinking why did I feel bad about it? If you keep asking someone out and they keep saying they’re busy you respect it and give up. Now because I’ve started responding I’m back to the same problem. If it wasn’t for the events I would have fizzled him out a lot more easily, the events is where it gets complicated, it unnerves me that he keeps turning up. I should just be able to block him, but I think I just need to be a bit more straight with him before taking it to that extreme. I don’t think he is a danger to me but surely he realises I’m not interested and still pursues, that’s what unnerves me, he knows I don’t want to but doesn’t care. It angers me that people’s empathy seems to be with him cos he’s lonely and not with me who is feeling uncomfortable and hassled. I questioned myself as to whether I was overreacting, as he’s not done anything wrong, but he actually has. A massive red flag a few years ago when all this started was when I told him I was going away and he asked me to send him a photo (to prove I wasn’t lying) instead of accepting it and backing off. If this was someone from OLD I’d block and delete straight away, this should be no different. I need to stop caring what people think.

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Sweetpeasaremadeofcheese · 14/09/2021 02:34

Don't say you are busy, say no thanks. If he corners you at events, excuse yourself and move to talk to someone else. Don't answer any one on one messages. Don't give him a single crumb of hope. It doesn't matter what other people think, if they think he's harmless then they can date him.

GreyCarpet · 14/09/2021 02:35

Yep.

You're absolutely right!

GreyCarpet · 14/09/2021 02:36

And I agree. Don't say you're busy. Just say no thank you.

It's hard thenfirs time you do it if you're worried what people will think but then you realise it works amd it gets a lot easier the more you do it.

You'll also become more confident being direct if he ignores a clear "No".

SeriouslyISuppose · 14/09/2021 02:40

@GreyCarpet

Why are you responding to his email/messages at all?

The next time he messages you telling you to let him know when you are free, just tell him that you won't be doing that and you want him to stop asking you. No 'sorry' or anything amd no excuses. Just No.

Whe the group leader asked if he was bothering you, what did you say? The group leader is inappropriate position to tell him he's not welcome at these events any more.

Stop being so 'nice'. You said several times in your post that he's not taking the hint. So stop hinting and tell him directly.

And as for the people.saying what's the harm in meeting him as long as he knows where the boundaries are, don't feel obligated, he clearly isn't seeing your boundaries or is ignoring them. Neither is good.

He's behaving like a dick but you need to be clear in the message you are sending him and, currently, you're not being.

Exactly this. He’s impervious to hints and has been for years, so you need to be extremely direct. Tell him you don’t want any further contact with him and block him. It doesn’t matter whether he’s interested in you romantically/socially awkward/lonely, or whether anyone thinks it adorable or not. It doesn’t matter whether he or anyone else thinks thinks you’re ‘mean’. You don’t want him around, so make that happen.

And yes, what did you tell the activity leader when they asked if he was bothering you? Have you told friends and family you don’t want any contact with him, and that he’s not there with your backing?

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 02:48

Yes, one male friend did get angry on my behalf and was going to say something to him if he followed us, and another one is on my side about it, the group leader is male and his first reaction was “is he bothering you”.... it seems that the men have seen it as abnormal behaviour but it’s the women who are being all “awww, isn’t he sweet, coming all this way to see you”. It’s unwanted!

I’m sick of these people acting like I don’t know my own mind and that anything is better than being on your own no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel. I know what I want and he’s not anything like what I want!

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Ceriane · 14/09/2021 02:54

I told the group leader “it’s okay, I know him”. I’m not sure if he just doesn’t read social cues well and it’s an awkwardness type of thing or if there really is a sense of entitlement there, either way the answer is no.

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QueenBee52 · 14/09/2021 02:56

I’m sick of these people acting like I don’t know my own mind and that anything is better than being on your own no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel. I know what I want and he’s not anything like what I want!

They perhaps are seeing mixed signals from you too and therefore don't actually realise how uncomfortable and unpleasant all of this is making you feel..

You need to be clear in your boundaries and that means saying No.. and meaning it. 🌸

QueenBee52 · 14/09/2021 02:56

@Ceriane

I told the group leader “it’s okay, I know him”. I’m not sure if he just doesn’t read social cues well and it’s an awkwardness type of thing or if there really is a sense of entitlement there, either way the answer is no.

it doesn't sound like you do either ...

alexdgr8 · 14/09/2021 03:05

you are giving mixed messages to this person.
don't wait for him to behave the way you want; you need to start standing p for yourself.
the group leader asked if he was bothering you. why didn't you say yes.
tell group leader now and/or other strong man at events.
you need to be unambiguous in rejecting this person's interest.
don't chat with him. don't reply to anything. ignore, move away at events. make sure you have the protection of trustworthy other members.
if you explain the situation, they will support you.
you have probably given them the wrong idea too.

you don't need to understand or analyse this person.
yo just need to keep away from him.
if he is socially isolated or possibly emotionally unstable, he could turn dangerous if he feels you have strung him along and now dropped him.

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 03:06

I’d like to think it’s just social awkwardness, but the persistence despite the fact he must know by now that I don’t want to be with him makes me think it’s the latter, and that concerns me.

Queen Bee you are right, I get myself in these situations because I’m hard wired to people please, and it needs to stop! I’m even considering having therapy, not for this specific problem but in general, it’s not right that I question myself this much about my own boundaries and feelings. I don’t want to be like this.

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GreyCarpet · 14/09/2021 03:10

Why on earth did you say "It's OK, I know him"?!!

You might know him but what does that mean? He wa bothering you. So why didn't you just say yes?

SeriouslyISuppose · 14/09/2021 03:10

I agree with others that you’re sending mixed signals to your circle. Be very clear to other people that you don’t want him around you. Stop saying ‘It’s ok, I know him’.

Foxhasbigsocks · 14/09/2021 03:14

I think you are sending out mixed signals op.

He could well be socially awkward - my dc has HFA and I could well imagine them not getting this.

You need to find a polite and firm way of drawing a line, without being over the top.

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 04:06

Polite and firm is the way to go I think.
The reason I was saying I know him is because it started out as really harmless, just some friendly guy who used to talk to me at the events, yeh it started to seem obvious he fancied me but at the time so what, there was no reason at this point to start thinking “stalker”, it’s when he began turning up at every event, persistently asking to meet up and not taking the hint that it started to feel uncomfortable, as most people would back off when people make excuses or say they are busy etc.

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Wiredforsound · 14/09/2021 05:54

‘No I don’t want to go on a date with you. Stop contacting me.’ Then block.

PermanentTemporary · 14/09/2021 06:03

I do think you need to stop giving any feedback at all, and blocking might be the best way.

When you respond with an excuse, he's not hearing a hint that you're not interested, he's taking it at face value, that you would come out if you could but this time you can't. When you say anything, in fact, he's hearing you respond to him. And agreed about taking support you are offered by other men in your group.

I had to block someone earlier in the year. I hate doing it. But it's the only thing that has given me peace of mind.