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How do I make it clear that I’m not interested in this person

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Ceriane · 13/09/2021 23:20

There is this guy who I met several years ago while taking in part in an event to do with a hobby I have been involved with since my teenage years, we got talking and became friends, well to be honest it was more acquaintances, I got a sense that he fancied me but I was in a relationship at the time.

A few years ago, he got back in contact and started turning up at every event, and after the events I always go out for drinks with a group of people, so to be polite told him he was welcome to come along. This was all okay but then he started coming to every single one, and following me around, never leaving my side, when I’m socialising afterwards and coming out for drinks every single time.

To me and the other people involved in this hobby he is a “friend” from when we did the event we were all in years ago. When I say friend, what I really mean is a polite way of saying “you’re a nice guy, but I’m just not into you”. I have had a couple of events I wasn’t able to go to due to an ongoing condition, when I’m not there he sends get well cards, it’s a ongoing condition that flares up at times, not one off illnesses, if people were to send me get well cards for this I’d have them all the time so not really appropriate and although he is trying to be nice, I wish he wouldn’t as it’s like he’s trying too hard and trying to make me feel obligated, or maybe I’m reading too much into this.

He messaged me a few times to ask me to go out with him one on one, I wasn’t sure whether to assume this was a date kind of thing or just as friends, I didn’t want to assume he likes me in that way when I could have it all wrong. I assumed this to be a date and I know I’m not interested in him in that way, so I made an excuse, he asked a few times, but I said I was busy or made an excuse thinking he’ll take the hint and move on, realise I don’t feel that way and find someone who does. He didn’t seem to be taking the hint, left it open as “well let me know when is best for you.” again I tried to give him the brush off, politely.

I went on holiday for two weeks and I never check my social media on holiday, that’s just one of my things, I take a break not just from work but from social media as well, friends and family members can ring or text my mobile if it’s urgent. I came home to several messages, he’d asked me out again, and this was followed by several messages such as “is everything okay? I’m concerned you haven’t replied to my message. Is everything okay health wise? Have I said something wrong” again I said I’d been away and in the end, stopped responding to his messages. I felt bad about ghosting him but he didn’t seem to be taking the hint.

He stopped asking me, but continued to turn up at the events. I don’t put much on Facebook but when I do, he pops up under every photo, normally ones I’ve been tagged into by someone else and says “let me know when your next event is” he finds out anyway off the website, we advertise our events to the public.

He creeps around friends and family members who are also involved in these events, as though he thinks if he’s in with them, he is automatically in with me and there seemed to be an increasing desperation about it, which is off putting. Other people had gone from saying “awww he’s so sweet, he’s such a nice guy” to realising this is getting to be unwanted attention. The group leader even came over and asked if he was bothering me, don’t think he realised I knew him. By this time he must know I don’t feel that way about him, but he was continuing to pursue me, that’s if that’s what this is, he’s never come right out and said he has feelings for me or anything like that or hinted that he likes me as more than a friend or even asked me if I’m seeing anyone. It would be easier to let him know I’m not interested if he did, as I don’t want to jump the gun and assume anything.He doesn’t know anything about my relationship status or history or if I’m even straight, but I’m getting a sense of “I’m a nice guy, I’ve done all the right things, you should feel obligated, how dare you not want me” sense of entitlement and I don’t like it, again that could be me reading too much into it.

Anyway I didn’t hear from him for a couple of years and just thought he’d taken the hint and was in the past, then in lockdown we did chat on social media once or twice, didn’t think anything of it, just that people are lonely in lockdown and it makes people want to connect or reconnect, I spoke to several friends I hadn’t seen for a long time in lockdown so didn’t see this as any different.

Then towards the end of lockdown, I don’t put anything on Facebook but every now and again I’d get a random like from him from photos unrelated to anything from several years ago and it freaked me out. Again he started asking to meet up and I thought “where is the harm in meeting up just as friends” so I did. I know full well I’m not attracted to him.

He now keeps asking about events again and I have a feeling he is going to start turning up at every one, he has messaged to say when would I like to meet up next, I just said “oh I’m really busy over the next few months, catching up with people after lockdown and all that” he said “okay” but I’ve received another email recently to say “don’t forget to let me know when you are free to meet up” again I said about how busy I am. He has come back with “well if you do get some free time let me know”. I don’t want to be mean, but I can’t seem to fizzle this person out, people have said “ah, but he’s a friend, he’s lonely, where’s the harm meeting up as long as he knows where the boundaries are” but why just because I’m single does that mean I have to keep spending time with someone I’m not interested in, why should the only acceptable excuse be I’m in a relationship. If I’m single that means I’m free to do whatever I like not obligated to spend all my time with some bloke just because he’s lonely and he likes me!!!

This is a small problem but it’s really beginning to stress me out.

OP posts:
LBirch02 · 14/09/2021 15:44

Ok I’ve just read the photo thing. Yep super creepy and yes you need to stop caring what people think.
I say this as someone who’s been a massive people pleaser

1forAll74 · 14/09/2021 15:59

I think he needs to be told straight up, that he is bothering you somewhat, and to stop contacting you .He seems to be a lonely guy, but tries to be friends with everyone, especially you. If you keep putting up with this kind of behaviour, it will just carry on.

I think it is hard to tackle people like this, the lonely ones, especially as they haven't done anything un towards really, but it is bothering you now, so he needs a wake up call. as if you show any niceness towards him at all, he will keep hanging in there.

IntermittentParps · 14/09/2021 16:01

when I told him I was going away and he asked me to send him a photo (to prove I wasn’t lying) instead of accepting it and backing off

He's a creep.

Your female 'friends' and your family who are all, 'awww, he’s sweet, he’s a nice guy, just meet up with him, nobody is asking you to jump into bed with him' – if you're good friends/have a family relationship, you can tell them you are not interested in him in that way. And tell them about the photo thing; if they've any sense they'll change their tune about him. Ask them to 'buffer' you, as pps have said, at events where he might be present. If they don't want to, remind them that he makes you feel harassed.
Block him from your personal SM/phone and avoid him at events.

IntermittentParps · 14/09/2021 16:02

There's no such thing as a male friend. Don't be daft. I've plenty. They're not creeps like this guy and they don't fancy me.

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 16:43

Thank You. I don’t need their support I should be strong enough within myself but it’s bloody hard.

When he got back in contact I chatted to him out of politeness in a casual acquaintance kind of way. I think I felt bad for ghosting him especially as I’d been ghosted myself by someone I really liked before the lockdown, I didn’t want the whole situation to start up again.

My mistake was not being upfront initially as now it is more difficult, I think the plan is now to just let this fizzle, if he turns up at events be polite and civil, but that’s all, I didn’t invite him, his choice to come, and if he persists online just block if he persists in person, be honest. It’s all I can do.

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GreyCarpet · 14/09/2021 16:51

@IntermittentParps

There's no such thing as a male friend. Don't be daft. I've plenty. They're not creeps like this guy and they don't fancy me.
Same here.

Although don't be mistaken, they have all looked at you amd thought about it 😉

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 17:07

Truth be told I don’t think there is such thing as a straight male friend either, it’s odds on one of you fancies the other and one of you has been friend zoned which is a really a polite way of saying I’m not interested, or it’s an ex you stayed friends with, doesn’t work.

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Ceriane · 14/09/2021 17:09

But this guy isn’t a friend, he has become creepy and persistent

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TheFoundations · 14/09/2021 17:15

@Ceriane

Truth be told I don’t think there is such thing as a straight male friend either, it’s odds on one of you fancies the other and one of you has been friend zoned which is a really a polite way of saying I’m not interested, or it’s an ex you stayed friends with, doesn’t work.
It's not odds on at all. Most people don't fancy each other. There are lots of people who have friends of the opposite sex. Your assumption that there's more going on is based on your own experience, not on everybody's reality.
IntermittentParps · 14/09/2021 17:17

No, I don't buy that for a minute. As TheFoundations says, there are plenty of people who simply don't fancy each other.

QueenBee52 · 14/09/2021 17:18

@IntermittentParps

No, I don't buy that for a minute. As TheFoundations says, there are plenty of people who simply don't fancy each other.

Yip.. 🌸

PartyStory · 14/09/2021 17:21

OP this is stalking and has the potential to turn nasty. You need to stop contact right now. Screenshot all the messages you have from him and create a timeline and then block him on all platforms. Do not message him again, he will not listen and it will just be giving him more attention. Inform friends, family, and anyone else that you do not want to talk with him. If he comes near you, make an excuse and leave immediately. If he continues to try and contact you or people close to you (as a way of contacting you) then go to the police.

Don’t feel that you need to consider his feelings because he certainly is not considering yours.

Branleuse · 14/09/2021 17:23

You sound a bit wet tbh. You need to tell him to stop bothering you and that you arent interested in socialising with him or being better friends and certainly not a relationship, and its become awkward now and please leave you alone.

IntermittentParps · 14/09/2021 17:24

QueenBee52, what does the flower mean? (apologies, I'm old Grin )

Branleuse · 14/09/2021 17:24

You think its politeness but its clearly not getting the message across. You dont owe him anything. Some people just need it spelling out to them

Drinkingallthewine · 14/09/2021 17:30

I’m sick of feeling like such a weak person and I know I need to work on myself that way. It doesn’t help that I’m not backed by certain female friends and family members who are very much “awww, he’s sweet, he’s a nice guy, just meet up with him, nobody is asking you to jump into bed with him” that really angers me because just that doesn’t mean I have to spend time with him, when I can spend time with friends/family/my flipping dog and then maybe someone I DO want romantically/sexually. I know I need to be strong within myself but I don’t feel I have the backing from other people around me who think I’m being mean. The men in the group however can see the situation for what it is, a pathway to making me feel obligated to be his girlfriend and I don’t want to be!!! To me it’s beginning to feel like grooming. Ugh!!!

When I was 19 there was a man in our friendship group who made it clear he fancied me. And all the friends thought we would make a great couple so I felt kind of railroaded into a relationship with him. I was utterly miserable with him. I had the ick for so long and yet with because of everyone saying we were a great couple I stayed. I would not do that now.

It's all very well for attached women to try to hook you up with him - some women think you should be pathetically grateful for any specimen of a man. But - next time one of them goes on about it, just say "well, if you think he's so lovely, why don't you fuck him then, I have ZERO interest in him and never have, so stop trying to match us up" I suspect that for some of them, they think that if they throw you in his path, they wont be a target for creep themselves.

And the next time the males in the group ask you, say yes, he's a pest and has been for some time, and have they any suggestions on how to get rid of him. You might find that with the support of the other men, who might call out his creepy behaviour, that the women will stop trying to set you both up, and when you do finally find your voice to tell him you aren't interested, they will support you in that.

And if he calls you a bitch in the end? I'd wear that title with pride. I'd even joke about it "yeah, I'm such a bitch to have the audacity to want to decide for myself who to date..."

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 17:32

Thank You and I’m not wet, just brought up to be nice and it’s back fired.

@PartyStory I think it borders on stalking but I don’t think it’s anywhere near a police matter, it does concern me that it could get worse though.

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Ceriane · 14/09/2021 17:40

@Drinkingallthewine you’ve nailed it again, unfortunately I seem to know a lot of women like that and it is so easy for them to say “you’re too fussy” and the like when they are in relationships with people they genuinely like and no one is pressuring them to go and fuck someone they don’t want, which is essentially what they are saying even though one in particular pretends to be naive and live in la la land where sex either doesn’t exist or you automatically would want it with people you are not attracted to or in her mind you’re being shallow. It’s my life and I’m sick of people grinding me down, if I’m a bitch then good!!

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IntermittentParps · 14/09/2021 17:41

It’s my life and I’m sick of people grinding me down, if I’m a bitch then good!!

THAT'S the spirit, OP! You don't have to keep being nice.

LBirch02 · 14/09/2021 17:44

Ah OK Op, I now get the impression that when you got in touch with him after a short break “no harm in it” you didn’t really want to socialise with him even as a friend.
I’ve been a people pleaser since childhood and I’m trying to change that.
The way I try and build up my assertiveness is through the fact I ended a long term relationship- he took it very badly and called me everything but I knew it was the right thing to do. I extrapolated from this that no one likes rejection- from the guy in your situation to having to tell a colleague to mind their own business - but sometimes rejection is the right thing to do

PartyStory · 14/09/2021 17:44

It is stalking OP. It’s making you uncomfortable and you’ve repeatedly made your feelings clear. If he continues after you block and ignore then it’s definately crossed a line and police will take it seriously.

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 14/09/2021 17:53

You could always be direct.
Look, I'm not interested in a relationship with you.
Or
I feel like you are looking for a relationship with me and I'm sorry but that's not what I want

Something along those lines.
Tell him that you feel uncomfortable with him seeking you out.
Stuff like that .

You're relying on him picking up on hints but you can't do that. We can't not tell people how we feel yet expect them to do what we want.

Lougle · 14/09/2021 17:54

It doesn't sound like he's clearly pursuing you against your will, but more that he hasn't taken the subtle hints that you're not interested. So it would be kinder to you both to be more direct.

It's going to be awkward, a bit. But you could prepare yourself by asking some of your closer friends to be ready to sweep in and occupy you if he approaches, so that you don't have to have 1:1 conversations with him.

2bazookas · 14/09/2021 18:12

You could have put an end to it long ago. Just tell him straight

" Tom, listen to me. I do not want a relationship with you. Your constant attention and invitations are unwelcome and make me feel uncomfortable. Please leave me alone "

Then block him.

QueenBee52 · 14/09/2021 19:38

@IntermittentParps

QueenBee52, what does the flower mean? (apologies, I'm old Grin )

Oh nothing.. I just love flowers .. brightens up a dull day 🤣

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