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How do I make it clear that I’m not interested in this person

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Ceriane · 13/09/2021 23:20

There is this guy who I met several years ago while taking in part in an event to do with a hobby I have been involved with since my teenage years, we got talking and became friends, well to be honest it was more acquaintances, I got a sense that he fancied me but I was in a relationship at the time.

A few years ago, he got back in contact and started turning up at every event, and after the events I always go out for drinks with a group of people, so to be polite told him he was welcome to come along. This was all okay but then he started coming to every single one, and following me around, never leaving my side, when I’m socialising afterwards and coming out for drinks every single time.

To me and the other people involved in this hobby he is a “friend” from when we did the event we were all in years ago. When I say friend, what I really mean is a polite way of saying “you’re a nice guy, but I’m just not into you”. I have had a couple of events I wasn’t able to go to due to an ongoing condition, when I’m not there he sends get well cards, it’s a ongoing condition that flares up at times, not one off illnesses, if people were to send me get well cards for this I’d have them all the time so not really appropriate and although he is trying to be nice, I wish he wouldn’t as it’s like he’s trying too hard and trying to make me feel obligated, or maybe I’m reading too much into this.

He messaged me a few times to ask me to go out with him one on one, I wasn’t sure whether to assume this was a date kind of thing or just as friends, I didn’t want to assume he likes me in that way when I could have it all wrong. I assumed this to be a date and I know I’m not interested in him in that way, so I made an excuse, he asked a few times, but I said I was busy or made an excuse thinking he’ll take the hint and move on, realise I don’t feel that way and find someone who does. He didn’t seem to be taking the hint, left it open as “well let me know when is best for you.” again I tried to give him the brush off, politely.

I went on holiday for two weeks and I never check my social media on holiday, that’s just one of my things, I take a break not just from work but from social media as well, friends and family members can ring or text my mobile if it’s urgent. I came home to several messages, he’d asked me out again, and this was followed by several messages such as “is everything okay? I’m concerned you haven’t replied to my message. Is everything okay health wise? Have I said something wrong” again I said I’d been away and in the end, stopped responding to his messages. I felt bad about ghosting him but he didn’t seem to be taking the hint.

He stopped asking me, but continued to turn up at the events. I don’t put much on Facebook but when I do, he pops up under every photo, normally ones I’ve been tagged into by someone else and says “let me know when your next event is” he finds out anyway off the website, we advertise our events to the public.

He creeps around friends and family members who are also involved in these events, as though he thinks if he’s in with them, he is automatically in with me and there seemed to be an increasing desperation about it, which is off putting. Other people had gone from saying “awww he’s so sweet, he’s such a nice guy” to realising this is getting to be unwanted attention. The group leader even came over and asked if he was bothering me, don’t think he realised I knew him. By this time he must know I don’t feel that way about him, but he was continuing to pursue me, that’s if that’s what this is, he’s never come right out and said he has feelings for me or anything like that or hinted that he likes me as more than a friend or even asked me if I’m seeing anyone. It would be easier to let him know I’m not interested if he did, as I don’t want to jump the gun and assume anything.He doesn’t know anything about my relationship status or history or if I’m even straight, but I’m getting a sense of “I’m a nice guy, I’ve done all the right things, you should feel obligated, how dare you not want me” sense of entitlement and I don’t like it, again that could be me reading too much into it.

Anyway I didn’t hear from him for a couple of years and just thought he’d taken the hint and was in the past, then in lockdown we did chat on social media once or twice, didn’t think anything of it, just that people are lonely in lockdown and it makes people want to connect or reconnect, I spoke to several friends I hadn’t seen for a long time in lockdown so didn’t see this as any different.

Then towards the end of lockdown, I don’t put anything on Facebook but every now and again I’d get a random like from him from photos unrelated to anything from several years ago and it freaked me out. Again he started asking to meet up and I thought “where is the harm in meeting up just as friends” so I did. I know full well I’m not attracted to him.

He now keeps asking about events again and I have a feeling he is going to start turning up at every one, he has messaged to say when would I like to meet up next, I just said “oh I’m really busy over the next few months, catching up with people after lockdown and all that” he said “okay” but I’ve received another email recently to say “don’t forget to let me know when you are free to meet up” again I said about how busy I am. He has come back with “well if you do get some free time let me know”. I don’t want to be mean, but I can’t seem to fizzle this person out, people have said “ah, but he’s a friend, he’s lonely, where’s the harm meeting up as long as he knows where the boundaries are” but why just because I’m single does that mean I have to keep spending time with someone I’m not interested in, why should the only acceptable excuse be I’m in a relationship. If I’m single that means I’m free to do whatever I like not obligated to spend all my time with some bloke just because he’s lonely and he likes me!!!

This is a small problem but it’s really beginning to stress me out.

OP posts:
Alfxn · 14/09/2021 06:19

Tell him once, firmly and clearly, that you are not interested in being friends with him/not comfortable spending further time together, and that further contact is unwelcome.
Then - very very important - immediately and permanently STOP giving him ANY crumbs of attention. No further contact from you to him, no replies, no hellos or polite chat at events, nothing - this kind of man WILL read into politeness as a green light to harass you.
Finally, be CLEAR to those around you that he has been crossing boundaries and makes you feel intensely uncomfortable. Get a "buffer zone" of people around you to back you up at events.
It will soon become very clear to all what's going on if this guy continues to bother you.

category12 · 14/09/2021 06:32

I really don't get why after all that, you started messaging with him and met up. It's a bit cruel really. And gives the message, "if you persist, she will eventually see you".

Just say "I'm uncomfortable with meeting up or messaging one to one, so let's leave it there" and block or never ever respond to him.

Marjoriedrawers · 14/09/2021 06:57

So after all that you finally got rid of him then YOU started all the contact up again? Has it occurred to you that you might be giving him the wrong signals? Use your block bottom if you don't want him contacting you outside events and stop giving him mixed signals.

Hattie765 · 14/09/2021 07:02

You're spending too much time and energy being polite and not wanting to assume anything even though you're uncomfortable. You're putting his feelings above your own, why would you do this? Women don't need to be nice to men who make them uncomfortable. Every time you're nice he's taking it as an invitation. He's a loon. Block him on social media and ignore him when he turns up to events. Worry about your feelings not his xx

pompomsgalore · 14/09/2021 07:25

You aren't alone by trying the 'be nice' approach first. I think most people here would be polite and pleasant.

But it's time to be honest now and safeguard yourself just in case.

Marjoriedrawers · 14/09/2021 07:26

@category12

I really don't get why after all that, you started messaging with him and met up. It's a bit cruel really. And gives the message, "if you persist, she will eventually see you".

Just say "I'm uncomfortable with meeting up or messaging one to one, so let's leave it there" and block or never ever respond to him.

Classic mixed signals. It had already ended when he'd gone quiet for two years. It wasn't him that started all the contact and meeting up again. OP is giving him some serious mixed signals and needs to address that aspect of her own psyche rather that focusing on what his problem is because he won't take the hint. He us taking the hint....all the wrong hints from OPs mixed signals.
TillyTopper · 14/09/2021 08:07

I’d like to think it’s just social awkwardness, but the persistence despite the fact he must know by now that I don’t want to be with him makes me think it’s the latter, and that concerns me

You would think that someone would get the message after several years, but you haven't been clear to him at all, and he's taken your "relapses" to chat as further encouragement. Tbh you both sound socially awkward, him for not realising but definitely you for not being clear with him and sending mixed messages.

You need to tell him and be straight, lots advice from PPs how to do this clearly. Then block him.

Miliao · 14/09/2021 08:25

Have you actually said, ‘Are you inviting me out on a date? If so, sorry but I don’t feel like that about you.’
From what you’ve said, I don’t think it’s clear on his side that you don’t want to see him. Some people don’t pick up social clues and some read too much into them, so I don’t think you can rely on them. There is nothing rude about saying that, and then you’re clear. Unfortunately being nice to him as you’re doing just reinforces your friendship from his side. Don’t ghost him, I think that’s mean as he won’t know what he’s done wrong.

Marjoriedrawers · 14/09/2021 08:40

To be fair it seems neither of them are very good at picking up social cues or being clear about their intentions. Perhaps they have more in common in that respect than they realise. The op hot what she wanted, he went quiet for a couple of years and it all stopped then she opened up contact again and arranged to meet him because she didn't see the harm? After all the relentless unwanted attention she didn't see the harm? It's no wonder the man doesn't know where he stands with her with mixes signals like that. The question needs to be asked just how much did she really want it to stop if once she wasn't getting his attention anymore she then went out of her way to open up contact with him again and arranged to meet him. That almost sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy. As I said, I think op might benefit more from exploring aspects of her own psyche than trying to work out his because she seems to have sought out his attention the second time round.

HarrisonStickle · 14/09/2021 08:51

I think you're being a bit unfair moaning about him not taking the hint when you started communicating with him again after two years of no contact then met up with him. What kind of hint is that he's not taking?

You seem to both want and not want his attention. You went without it for a sustained period then started it off again. It's not his fault you're giving him mixed signals.

Decide on what you want, do it, then stick with it. When you next feel the need for some attention, leave him alone and don't drag him back in.

pompomsgalore · 14/09/2021 08:57

@Miliao

Have you actually said, ‘Are you inviting me out on a date? If so, sorry but I don’t feel like that about you.’ From what you’ve said, I don’t think it’s clear on his side that you don’t want to see him. Some people don’t pick up social clues and some read too much into them, so I don’t think you can rely on them. There is nothing rude about saying that, and then you’re clear. Unfortunately being nice to him as you’re doing just reinforces your friendship from his side. Don’t ghost him, I think that’s mean as he won’t know what he’s done wrong.
That's a great opening sentence you've written there. Simple yet effective.
leavesthataregreen · 14/09/2021 09:02

He may be one of those people who totally lacks the social skills to read between the lines and takes you literally when you say you are busy for now. I think you might have to risk hurting his feelings and say: look, I don't really want to meet up. I know you mean well but I actually feel quite pressured by your attention and find it too much. I'm not interested in a relationship with you other than casual acquaintance. I'm sorry if you feel differently but i need you to respect how I feel. He will be hurt. He may be angry. But that's not your fault. He hasn't read the signs.

Elieza · 14/09/2021 09:25

You have to tell him you don’t want to date him and a pp has given you the line to use next time he says anything.

To be honest, if you’d said to him at the first time that you don’t fancy him he may have backed off. He thinks you do because you never told him.

He’s probably sitting there thinking the timings not right with you and that’s why youve not dated him.

Once you say what pp suggested next time you talk to him, if he says no it’s not a date be prepared to knock him back anyway. That kind of person may take ‘just friends’ to be the go ahead for ‘she’s just playing hard to get but once she realises I’m a nice guy she will date me so I just need to be patient and accept friends just now as that means friends leading to a date”.

Be careful though. People can be a bit weird. Be aware of who is around you when walking home etc. Lock your doors. Je must know your address as he sent you a card. Just be safe.

SecondRow · 14/09/2021 09:31

But the OP's hesitation has been because she suspects he'll say "Not a date, just as friends!" and she fears appearing churlish. It IS harder to tell someone they're not EVEN friend material.

How about something like: I realise you may see it differently, but to me we are not really on the same wavelength in the way I am with my friends, and I don't want to meet up on a 1 to 1 basis. It's up to you if you enjoy attending the public events, but I am uncomfortable thinking you are coming to see me, because that's not reciprocated on my part.

TheFoundations · 14/09/2021 09:36

I’m sick of these people acting like I don’t know my own mind and that anything is better than being on your own no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel. I know what I want and he’s not anything like what I want

How do you expect people to know that this is how you feel if you don't communicate it? ou are essentially acting as if you like having him around, and expecting people to know that you don't like having him around.

Naunet · 14/09/2021 09:56

You really need to learn to be more assertive and stop putting male feelings above your own. Tell your friends that it’s not sweet, it’s fucking annoying and a little unsettling and by them telling you how sweet he is, they are adding to the pressure. Stop telling the leader of this group that this man’s behaviour is ok, it’s clearly not. Why are you protecting him?

Lastly, stop hand wringing over whether he actually likes you or not, of course he bloody does. Can you imagine him acting like this towards another guy? Tell him to back off, be prepared for his tantrum to follow. You need to get a lot harsher in dealing with men like this because they prey on women like you. I know it’s hard, you’ve been socialised to be polite, kind and respect how others feel, however being assertive and looking out for yourself is important too.

I use to be the same, moving to a city toughened me up. One day I was waiting to meet my partner and two drunk guys started chatting to me. They were nice enough so I kept talking to them, then one of them asked for a hug. In the past I would have hugged him even though I didn’t want to, out of politeness. This time I said “knock it off”, I said it with a smile, and that was the end of it. I was expecting a bad reaction, they were actually fine with it, but I’m aware that some men hate being told no, and I think your local dickhead might be one of them, which is why you need your friends at this group to be aware of how uncomfortable he’s making you.

HollowTalk · 14/09/2021 09:57

I think when you came back off holiday to all those messages, I would've replied with, "I've been on holiday with my boyfriend. We always turn our phones off whenever we go away." I know you shouldn't have to bring in another guy as back up, but I think this one would take the hint if you did.

WhatMattersMost · 14/09/2021 09:59

He's being inappropriate - and your experience is entirely your responsibility. Time to grow a backbone and stop trying to be nice.

Honeymare · 14/09/2021 10:30

Hi OP,

I sympathise. I found myself in various versions of these situations when I was younger.

People here are really mean. They are being mean to you and they are advocating being really mean to this man who presumably is not reading this situation correctly. He is a person at the end of the day. He thinks you're friends and someday more.

But you need to take this in hand right now. Delete him from your social media and do not answer messages from him. This will either make things clear or it will push the current situation into a clear conversation.

If he turns up at an event and confronts you asking why you deleted him simply say "oh don't take it personally. I'm culling my social media networks to good friends and not keeping hobby acquaintances on anymore. I just find it all too distracting" or if he asks why you're not answering his messages say "sorry about that, I'm finding myself increasingly distracted with hobbies and outside of events want to focus on my own life and my own circles." Again he may not get the hint and will push in which case you can say "I'm sorry there seems to be a misunderstanding but I don't want a 1:1 friendship with you or to date you."

Yes it is not nice to hurt someone's feelings but you need to manage your own anxiety levels and feeling in control of your own life. He is not entitled to attention from you because he wants it.

Thelnebriati · 14/09/2021 10:50

I think your mistake has been to believe that just because he has been around for X amount of time, you have to treat him as a friend.
He isn't your friend. You don't socialise together outside of the context of your shared hobby.
Have higher standards for who you consider a friend! Friends are people you like and you do things together.

He isn't a friend. He's a persistent man that wont take a hint and makes a nuisance of himself. His behaviour is so obvious that other people notice it.
Make a plan for how you will act next time you see the group leader, or next time someone asks you if you are ok - say 'I thought things were ok but he's being a nuisance now, and I'd prefer not to have any contact with him.'

The next time he leaves a message on your page to ask when you want to meet up next, say 'I haven't arranged to meet with you. I go to the events to meet friends from my hobby. I'm not comfortable with this. Please stop trying to contact me'
Then block him.

SeriouslyISuppose · 14/09/2021 10:54

@Honeymare

Hi OP,

I sympathise. I found myself in various versions of these situations when I was younger.

People here are really mean. They are being mean to you and they are advocating being really mean to this man who presumably is not reading this situation correctly. He is a person at the end of the day. He thinks you're friends and someday more.

But you need to take this in hand right now. Delete him from your social media and do not answer messages from him. This will either make things clear or it will push the current situation into a clear conversation.

If he turns up at an event and confronts you asking why you deleted him simply say "oh don't take it personally. I'm culling my social media networks to good friends and not keeping hobby acquaintances on anymore. I just find it all too distracting" or if he asks why you're not answering his messages say "sorry about that, I'm finding myself increasingly distracted with hobbies and outside of events want to focus on my own life and my own circles." Again he may not get the hint and will push in which case you can say "I'm sorry there seems to be a misunderstanding but I don't want a 1:1 friendship with you or to date you."

Yes it is not nice to hurt someone's feelings but you need to manage your own anxiety levels and feeling in control of your own life. He is not entitled to attention from you because he wants it.

This is terrible advice. The OP has already spent years mumbling excuses about being busy. He can’t or won’t understand. She needs to act directly, in a way that makes her intention to have him completely out of her life completely plain.

And no one is being ‘mean’. They’re pointing out that the situation is partly of her making.

Honeymare · 14/09/2021 10:58

@SeriouslyISuppose I am not suggesting mumbling excuses about being busy. I suggested deleting him everywhere, ignoring his messages and if he physically confronts her telling him clearly that he is only a hobby acquaintance to her and she does not wish to make time for him in her private life.

And yes it is mean to scoff at a person who finds themselves in a situation like this.

BabsFiddle · 14/09/2021 11:03

The fact that he wanted photographic evidence to prove you were going away when you said you were speaks volumes...That is unacceptable and creepy.
You need to tell him firmly that you are not interested in him. And probably tell the Event Leader too..

TheFoundations · 14/09/2021 11:11

@HollowTalk

I think when you came back off holiday to all those messages, I would've replied with, "I've been on holiday with my boyfriend. We always turn our phones off whenever we go away." I know you shouldn't have to bring in another guy as back up, but I think this one would take the hint if you did.
Why lie? It's just additional drama.
WorkingItOutAsIGo · 14/09/2021 11:22

You don’t owe him anything. You don’t have to be kind. He isn’t your friend.

One clear message, saying I am culling my list as I need to refocus my life, wish you well. Then block. And ignore.

If he continues to harass you then the next time you escalate and say he is making you uncomfortable and you would like him to leave you alone. It doesn’t matter what his intentions are, it matters that you feel uncomfortable.

The third time, you tell everyone he is making you uncomfortable.

You have been your own worst enemy - sadly this is how women are socialised to put everyone else first. You don’t have to.