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How do I make it clear that I’m not interested in this person

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Ceriane · 13/09/2021 23:20

There is this guy who I met several years ago while taking in part in an event to do with a hobby I have been involved with since my teenage years, we got talking and became friends, well to be honest it was more acquaintances, I got a sense that he fancied me but I was in a relationship at the time.

A few years ago, he got back in contact and started turning up at every event, and after the events I always go out for drinks with a group of people, so to be polite told him he was welcome to come along. This was all okay but then he started coming to every single one, and following me around, never leaving my side, when I’m socialising afterwards and coming out for drinks every single time.

To me and the other people involved in this hobby he is a “friend” from when we did the event we were all in years ago. When I say friend, what I really mean is a polite way of saying “you’re a nice guy, but I’m just not into you”. I have had a couple of events I wasn’t able to go to due to an ongoing condition, when I’m not there he sends get well cards, it’s a ongoing condition that flares up at times, not one off illnesses, if people were to send me get well cards for this I’d have them all the time so not really appropriate and although he is trying to be nice, I wish he wouldn’t as it’s like he’s trying too hard and trying to make me feel obligated, or maybe I’m reading too much into this.

He messaged me a few times to ask me to go out with him one on one, I wasn’t sure whether to assume this was a date kind of thing or just as friends, I didn’t want to assume he likes me in that way when I could have it all wrong. I assumed this to be a date and I know I’m not interested in him in that way, so I made an excuse, he asked a few times, but I said I was busy or made an excuse thinking he’ll take the hint and move on, realise I don’t feel that way and find someone who does. He didn’t seem to be taking the hint, left it open as “well let me know when is best for you.” again I tried to give him the brush off, politely.

I went on holiday for two weeks and I never check my social media on holiday, that’s just one of my things, I take a break not just from work but from social media as well, friends and family members can ring or text my mobile if it’s urgent. I came home to several messages, he’d asked me out again, and this was followed by several messages such as “is everything okay? I’m concerned you haven’t replied to my message. Is everything okay health wise? Have I said something wrong” again I said I’d been away and in the end, stopped responding to his messages. I felt bad about ghosting him but he didn’t seem to be taking the hint.

He stopped asking me, but continued to turn up at the events. I don’t put much on Facebook but when I do, he pops up under every photo, normally ones I’ve been tagged into by someone else and says “let me know when your next event is” he finds out anyway off the website, we advertise our events to the public.

He creeps around friends and family members who are also involved in these events, as though he thinks if he’s in with them, he is automatically in with me and there seemed to be an increasing desperation about it, which is off putting. Other people had gone from saying “awww he’s so sweet, he’s such a nice guy” to realising this is getting to be unwanted attention. The group leader even came over and asked if he was bothering me, don’t think he realised I knew him. By this time he must know I don’t feel that way about him, but he was continuing to pursue me, that’s if that’s what this is, he’s never come right out and said he has feelings for me or anything like that or hinted that he likes me as more than a friend or even asked me if I’m seeing anyone. It would be easier to let him know I’m not interested if he did, as I don’t want to jump the gun and assume anything.He doesn’t know anything about my relationship status or history or if I’m even straight, but I’m getting a sense of “I’m a nice guy, I’ve done all the right things, you should feel obligated, how dare you not want me” sense of entitlement and I don’t like it, again that could be me reading too much into it.

Anyway I didn’t hear from him for a couple of years and just thought he’d taken the hint and was in the past, then in lockdown we did chat on social media once or twice, didn’t think anything of it, just that people are lonely in lockdown and it makes people want to connect or reconnect, I spoke to several friends I hadn’t seen for a long time in lockdown so didn’t see this as any different.

Then towards the end of lockdown, I don’t put anything on Facebook but every now and again I’d get a random like from him from photos unrelated to anything from several years ago and it freaked me out. Again he started asking to meet up and I thought “where is the harm in meeting up just as friends” so I did. I know full well I’m not attracted to him.

He now keeps asking about events again and I have a feeling he is going to start turning up at every one, he has messaged to say when would I like to meet up next, I just said “oh I’m really busy over the next few months, catching up with people after lockdown and all that” he said “okay” but I’ve received another email recently to say “don’t forget to let me know when you are free to meet up” again I said about how busy I am. He has come back with “well if you do get some free time let me know”. I don’t want to be mean, but I can’t seem to fizzle this person out, people have said “ah, but he’s a friend, he’s lonely, where’s the harm meeting up as long as he knows where the boundaries are” but why just because I’m single does that mean I have to keep spending time with someone I’m not interested in, why should the only acceptable excuse be I’m in a relationship. If I’m single that means I’m free to do whatever I like not obligated to spend all my time with some bloke just because he’s lonely and he likes me!!!

This is a small problem but it’s really beginning to stress me out.

OP posts:
PumpkinsGalore · 14/09/2021 20:01

Hang on, you managed to ignore his messages for 2 years then ended up back in touch with him? Did he stop coming to your church groups during that 2 year period? Then he just suddenly popped up again?

PuzzledObserver · 14/09/2021 20:09

I don’t think I would tell him he made me feel uncomfortable - some guys would get off on that. No “sorry”, no “I’m busy,” no invented boyfriend. Just “No, I don’t want to meet up with you, I’m not interested in a relationship with you.” And if he says it’s just as friends, tell him you’ve never really considered him a friend, he’s just someone you see at hobby events. And you would appreciate if he stopped monopolising you at said events, you go there to do your hobby, not to meet him.

If any of your female friends do the “oh he’s sweet, where’s the harm.” thing, tell them you’re not interested in him so would they please stop trying to push into something you don’t want.

If he turns up at an event, blank him. Turn away, talk to someone else. If he follows you, turn to him and say “please leave me alone.” Then walk away.

waybill · 14/09/2021 21:09

@Ceriane

I told the group leader “it’s okay, I know him”. I’m not sure if he just doesn’t read social cues well and it’s an awkwardness type of thing or if there really is a sense of entitlement there, either way the answer is no.
Go back and speak to the group leader again. Just quietly explain that he is now starting to be a bit of a nuisance and won't take no for an answer.
Ceriane · 14/09/2021 22:00

I think I just need to be more direct, I don’t think it is actually stalking, more that he genuinely doesn’t have any idea that I don’t feel the same.

@PumpkinsGalore Don’t know where you’ve got church groups from, nothing to do with church groups, it is a hobby I’m involved in that involves performing, not going to say what it is in case it makes it obvious to anyone reading this who I am, he isn’t part of the group I perform with, never has been he was part of another group and we merged together for a specific event several years ago, since then he started coming to our events as an audience member, and it all went from there. After I ghosted him he messaged me on Facebook 2 years later, towards the end of lockdown.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 14/09/2021 22:11

"Just to be clear, I am not interested and I'm finding your messages uncomfortable so would like you to stop contacting me 1:1. Thanks."

Then block.

Don't put a sorry in the message or mention a pretend boyfriend he will project his own subtext onto it.

"She says she has a boyfriend but if she didn't I bet she would want to see me."

"She pretended she's not interested but she said sorry because she knows I'm a good guy and won't just give up on her."

Etc etc.

Yoj should read Women Don't Owe you Pretty" and "The Gift of Fear."

I think they would both be really beneficial.

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 22:20

Thank You.

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PartyStory · 14/09/2021 22:26

OP, wouldn't you have taken a hint by now? He's a fully grown man and the other men around you know what he is doing is wrong. Please take off the kid gloves and stop prioritising what you think his feelings are above yours. So many men feign innocence to take advantage of women's socialisation to always "be kind". Unless he has learning difficulties (which you would know), I would be very surprised if he had no idea what he was doing.

Besides, repeated unwanted romantic attention is stalking, regardless of what is going on in his head. Whether he is aware of what he is doing, or not, is not your concern.

Ceriane · 14/09/2021 22:34

@PartyStory thank you. Yes I would have taken the hint long before now, I’ve dated one or two guys I’ve been really into, who have stopped messaging, but I take the hint, think to myself “that’s life” and don’t continue to text them, I leave it.

I think he does know it’s unwanted, and feels a sense of injustice and thinks if he perseveres he can make it happen, but if a sense of entitlement and that’s what I don’t like. No learning difficulties I’m aware of, although he does seem very socially awkward, one of these people who is very academically intelligent but socially, not so much. Anyway I’m not going to make any more excuses for him, I need to be more direct, as uncomfortable as that is for me, it’s the only way, and he’s a grown ass man, he needs to deal with it and move on!

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LizzieW1969 · 14/09/2021 23:47

Besides, repeated unwanted romantic attention is stalking, regardless of what is going on in his head. Whether he is aware of what he is doing, or not, is not your concern.

^I agree with this. The photo incident is actually very creepy and his behaviour towards you can definitely be described as stalking IMO.

You should definitely be very clear with him that his advanced are unwelcome and he’s to leave you alone. And then block him.

altiara · 15/09/2021 00:08

OP, if he doesn’t pick up on your social cues, you can’t think oh he will eventually, you have to think he is a completely different person to you and your brush off is not a brush off to him. You need to be very blunt, you might feel rude but his social cue level is different to yours.
Channel your annoyance (and Phoebe from friends) into saying “I don’t want to”.
If he keeps coming back “sorry Fred, you’re turning into a stalker and I don’t want to report you”

Naunet · 15/09/2021 09:43

Trust me OP, it’s an amazing feeling to start being assertive. It’s a bit scary to do it, but once you’ve taken that jump, you will feel so good about yourself!

IntermittentParps · 15/09/2021 09:49

Thanks QueenBee52!

Ceriane · 15/09/2021 11:46

Thanks for the replies, I’m going to have to be blunt.

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IllegibleSquiggles · 15/09/2021 12:14

OP, did I misread that I can't find the post again or did you actually say that once, when you told him you couldn't see him because you were going on holidays, he asked you to provide a photo from the holiday as 'proof' because he thought you might be lying????

Ceriane · 15/09/2021 12:24

Yeh, he did say that. I found it controlling.

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GreyCarpet · 15/09/2021 12:25

I've just read the OP's posts and can't see anywhere where she says he asked her for photographic proof that she was busy...

PascowV · 15/09/2021 12:25

"Hi X. Just to clear up any misunderstanding here, I am not interested in a date with you or meeting up with you one on one as friends. I'm happy to be friendly at the group meetings, but nothing more."

Then block, no more needs to be said.

GreyCarpet · 15/09/2021 12:26

@Ceriane

Yeh, he did say that. I found it controlling.
Ah, cross posted!

Did you send him a photo?

Ceriane · 15/09/2021 12:47

Absolutely not!!!

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GreyCarpet · 15/09/2021 13:14

Good!! Grin

Do you feel a bit more confident in dealing with him now after this thread?

It is hard because this is the 'female socialisation' that is talked about - prioritising the feelings of others (let's face it - usually men) above our own. And it can be hard to step out of it even when you see it.

I can assure you though that nothing bad has happened to me since I saw it and started acting upon it.

Reactions are interesting because some men genuinely perceive a woman saying "no" to them as 'mean' and, as you have seen, many women will do so to because its anathema to them. It sounds wrong to them. The more you do it, the easier it will become and, as many other posters have already pointed out, the men in the organisation have already recognised it.

They can see it for what it is when then women are still 'clucking' around him maternally and calling it sweet.

Ceriane · 15/09/2021 13:35

Thank You. Feel more confident about it now, I think I had it drummed into me growing up to be a man pleaser, and as an adult, I’m pretty angry about it. I know that right is on my side, regardless of what some of the women around me think!

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Tirediam · 15/09/2021 16:05

God that’s proper stalker territory!! Good luck OP. Be assertive as you can be and you’ll feel better for it x

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