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Argument with husband

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Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:11

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

OP posts:
blueskytoday06 · 08/09/2021 20:23

Let him go. It will seriously be the best decision he makes. Show him the door.

whynotwhatknot · 08/09/2021 20:35

Hes not going to change op that much is obvious -stop trying and change what you do instead

greendiva · 08/09/2021 20:38

If you can't leave for yourself, leave to protect your children. You won't be without, there is a benefits system if you are in UK to provide, call a refuge, go there and get away from this man that although you still love, he will never change. There is no talking to a man who uses physical violence to control his family.

Sh05 · 08/09/2021 20:39

@Zenab12 you need to leave him for all your sales but it's not always so easy especially if your Asian/ Pakistani as there's major stigma attached to divorce in our culture.
How old are the children Zenab?
Did you have a nikah ceremony followed by a registry office wedding? I only ask as lots of Asian ladies find themselves stuck in a loveless abusive marriage because they fear losing everything when they've not registered their marriage by British law.
You say you left your family, does this imply that you are no longer on contact with them? If so you need to rebuild those bridges, I'm sure your parents would not be happy to learn that that shame of leaving everything for him is trapping you in this abusive relationship.
Please open up to your family, cousins and women's aid and also get some advice from a solicitor to figure out financials.

Hankunamatata · 08/09/2021 21:54

If your daughter comes to you in 20 years time and say her partner punched her in the face. What would you say to her?

ShrillSiren · 08/09/2021 22:04

You're being abused and it's escalating. You need to leave with your children. You are so young and don't deserve this for the rest of your life.

Have you got any family you can go to? Even if you left on bad terms, unless they're actually bad people, I imagine they'd have you back ASAP.

Polly271220 · 08/09/2021 22:15

Why are you apologising...this piece of shit should apologise to you!

LalalalalalaLand123 · 08/09/2021 22:27

I'm so sorry OP - he is a horrible man, and you need to protect your children and protect yourself and end your relationship. Please speak to Women's Aid about how best to do so. I think you need to tell him to leave. He is disgusting.

Cherrysoup · 08/09/2021 22:28

What the fuck have you to apologise for? He HIT you! You cannot have your dc or yourself around him, he’s abusive and violent. Get out before he starts on the kids.

Jux · 08/09/2021 22:33

He hits you, and you apologise to him? And you ask if you've been unreasonable towards him? No.

Please leave. He's not safe.

If you can get copies of his accounts/bank statements/whatever before you go, then great, but if you can't no worries.

Go. Take your poor children and leave.

Beachbabe1 · 08/09/2021 22:35

You should not be putting your children through that! They are witnessing a man speak to a woman in that way! Disgusting! Get the hell away from him

Flossie44 · 08/09/2021 22:44

I’ve never written this as I always usually feel there’s a way to sort things.
But I’ve read your message and I gasped. You must leave. He’s vile to you. You sound so so lovely.
Your babies deserve their mum to be happy. You sound the most wonderful mum and they would want you protected and happy.
Please get advice and leave. You will pick yourself up and be fine. A years time you will look back and know it was right.
He deserves nothing. He knows this deep down and that’s why he’s panicking and threatening you, and lashing out.
He deserves a lonely life of misery.

Please please leave Flowers

proudwomansexmatters · 08/09/2021 22:48

@Zenab12 I read your post and it made me shudder before I'd even got to the end. And then I read your update and it make me feel so sad for you.

This is not normal. In a western society we do not keep our women inside away from work and eduction. That might be common place in some countries but not here.

The way that your husband treats you is a direct reflection on what he is teaching your children to do in their lives as they get older.

If you won't leave for yourself, please do it for them. Growing up seeing your mum get punched and emotionally abused is not a good way for anyone to grow up. You don't want your kids growing up to think this is ok, or even worse, to do to their own families and keep the circle going.

You are young. Yes, it will be tough. Yes you will miss him. Yes, it's going to feel shit. For a while.

But you will be fine. Don't be too proud to ask for help. You owe it to your children to be strong and get your shit together. Take a breath. Make a plan. Leave this nasty bastard behind. You do not need him.

No one who truly loved you would punch you in the face.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/09/2021 23:26

OP I hope you’re ok and that you come back to this thread. It’s a lot to process but you really must leave him.

Mayorquimby2 · 08/09/2021 23:54

Fucking hell there's not much to add.
This post was heartbreaking at the point where he belittled his kid for being upset that he'd let her down on her birthday for such a simple request.
Even as a one off it paints a horrible picture.

From them on it becomes criminal.
It's clear you don't want or feel you can't leave him, but you really need to

Kangkla · 09/09/2021 01:13

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InnPain · 09/09/2021 04:48

You sound very dependent on this man, he’s punched you but you’re questioning if you have been unreasonable? It’s like you want to justify his physical assault on you.

It’s not your fault and he needs to go. Sounds like he’s brainwashed you and got a hold over you financially, saying things like “see how far you all get without me” etc. Is he the provider of the family? Are you a stay at home mum?

I would’ve went to the cinema with the kids myself and not bothered waiting for him but that’s besides the point now, in a way it’s a blessing you’ve seen him for the pig he is but I did suspect this isn’t an isolated incident.

Glumgal · 09/09/2021 10:02

I suspect you won't come back to the thread now @Zenab12 but the fact you've had an overwhelming LTB should give you pause for thought.

Is this really the life you want for yourself and your children? Reading through your previous postings it's clear that this isn't the first time your husband has lashed out in anger and hurt you either. It will only escalate further if you stay.

Only you can make the decision that enough is enough but please for your children's sakes make that call. Not only do you not want your daughter to grow up thinking that this is normal but think about what awful male role models your son has had from his father and uncle. Is this really how you want him to turn out as an adult!?

peridito · 09/09/2021 10:25

@Zenab12 I was also thinking you won't come back to thread .The initial responses were overwhelmingly "leave" and not much acknowledgement of how overwhelming that would feel for you .Enough to make you give up on the thread as a source of support .

My heart goes out to you and I pray that you might find some support in your life .Flowers

Mumadof3 · 09/09/2021 10:34

I mean posting something like this is going to trigger alot of people. A lot of women have Been in an abusive relationship and if they are out of it and see something like this I think it triggers a huge panicked response. I hope you take time to read a process all that has been written and you will eventually come back to the post for some guidance and support.
You cant live like this forever your only 23 and so young you dont have to live your life with this stress and fear. My ex uses to tell me I was damaged goods and no one would want to take on 2 kids but they have and I've had another baby. Please don't believe the things he tells you tell are not true.

timeisnotaline · 09/09/2021 11:49

Take a photo of the bruise now. Please go and report him to the police for hitting you. Tell them how many times it has happened in the past.
Call women’s aid and explain what he’s like and ask fri help in leaving - you need help to understand what benefits and other support you can get, how much it will be and what you can do with that.

Marni83 · 09/09/2021 11:53

The op has started a number of threads revealing how unhappy she is

Mumadof3 · 10/09/2021 10:30

@Marni83 how to you see her other posts on here ?

Such a shame as I'm sure if this was one of our mates or family members we would all be doing a lot more. I really hope she is telling someone close to her aswell and not just mumsnet.

Marni83 · 10/09/2021 10:33

Search
And then search on her name
Multiple threads about how unhappy her family life is

flibberyjibbery8 · 10/09/2021 13:11

Use that heartbreak to spur you on to leave. If you want to leave, do it secretly. Do not do it openly with a man who is violent or you and your daughter could be in serious danger.
You love him yes,but a man who lays a hand on you, talks to you that way and treats a child poorly loves no one but himself.
Your daughter is more important than money. There are organisations that can help you to safety. Abusers tell you that you can't do better to stop you leaving. You can have a safer, happier life away from violence.

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