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Argument with husband

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Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:11

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

OP posts:
NameChangeinHaste · 08/09/2021 18:31

Phone the police. Tomorrow when you take daughter to school, ask to speak to the designated safeguarding lead. They will be a massive source of support for you and your daughter in school.
There will be social services involvement. But they will know you are acting in the best interests of your child. However, if you don’t remove yourselves from this situation - preferably by getting him to leave. They will have to take action to safeguard your daughter.
I know it’s scary, but please dial 999 and ask to speak to the police ASAP.

Purplepeoniesdroppingpetals · 08/09/2021 18:31

Phone the police and remove this disgusting man from your life. You can do better than this and think about the lessons your kids will learn about relationships if you stay.

seven201 · 08/09/2021 18:32

He's abusing you physically and emotionally. He's abusing your kids emotionally. You need to leave for your kids, and for you. Tell your family and do what needs to be done for your girls. You don't want your girls to be brought up thinking this is normal.

Plumtree391 · 08/09/2021 18:33

Zenab, you are only 23 and have two children with this monster.

Do you and he own your home?

Contact a women's aid organisation who will advise you what to do. You may not be in a good financial position at the moment but you can be, yes you honestly can, and as a mother you have a lot to offer your children. There is help available for people in your situation.

LannieDuck · 08/09/2021 18:34

He hit you. Call the police.

You've been trying for ages to make it work, but has he been trying? At all? You can't make a relationship work all by yourself, however much you might want to.

...and why didn't you just take her to the cinema yourself? Your husband could have come to join you there if he wanted to (although he clearly wasn't bothered).

Ugzbugz · 08/09/2021 18:34

What on earth are you doing?

Protect your children from that vile monster and leave immediately or kick him out. He sounds utterly repulsive, just a grim, pathetic, dead beat. Shit husband and even shitter dad.

Facilitatingdarkness · 08/09/2021 18:36

God, it was pretty awful and then I read he punched you in the face and slapped you.

OP, you have NOTHING to apologise for. Please, pack your belongings and go. Have you got family or friends that can take you in temporarily?

Mumoftwinadoes · 08/09/2021 18:36

You absolutely don't need to put up with this. You and your children are worth so much more. They need to see that you will protect them. Putting up with him insulting and hitting you, and calling your daughter stupid, on her birthday of all days is not acceptable. Leave leave leave

diamondpony80 · 08/09/2021 18:36

You're only 23. You're very young and you've given up everything for this guy. Your education, your freedom, your family and friends - your WHOLE LIFE.

You MUST listen to the commenters on this post because many of us are much older and have been in similar situations with narcissistic, abusive men. If you stay with him you WILL regret it.

I know you can't imagine it now, but the time from 23 to 40 goes SO fast. When you get to my age it will literally tear you apart knowing what he's stolen from you (some of the best years of your life) and the damage he's done to your children. The consequences of this kind of abuse will haunt them for the rest of their lives. They may end up in abusive relationships themselves.

You can save them from this, but you'll have to be strong. Your kids need safety and stability and love more than they need what he can provide financially. They don't deserve what they're experiencing right now. It's not your fault, but you have to do the right thing now and leave, before he causes permanent damage to you and your children.

Dillydollydingdong · 08/09/2021 18:37

The marriage is over. He doesn't want to be with you. Get rid of the nasty prick.

Pompom2367 · 08/09/2021 18:37

Op you need to protect the kids and contact the police

ChateauxNeufDePoop · 08/09/2021 18:39

Others will give you more practical advice but to join in with some of the more blunt posters, there's only 2 ways this ends - you leave or he continues to abuse you and eventually your children as he obviously doesn't care much for them either. If he gets away with this it will only escalate - people like this don't wake up like Ebeneezer Scrooge on Christmas morning and decide to change their lives.

Nc123 · 08/09/2021 18:39

@Zenab12

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

He punched you.

Go now. Don’t apologise. Pack your things, take your kids and go. Have you got somewhere you can stay?

peachesarenom · 08/09/2021 18:40

Please find the strength to escape this. It will be affecting the kids so badly, they're still growing. They'll think it's normal. Also, do it for yourself, you can't live like thus

ToykotoLosAngeles · 08/09/2021 18:41

What would you tell your best friend or daughter if she told you that her husband treated her like this and was abusive to her and her children? Would you tell her to say sorry and try harder next time? Thought not.

OhRene · 08/09/2021 18:45

he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands,

For fuck's sake woman, get out NOW! He's a mysoginistic, uncaring, selfish, racist and wife beating piece of shit. You'd do far better without him.

Westerman · 08/09/2021 18:46

Crikey! Why are you trying to apologise to him. He should be apologising to you!

Please please phone the Police and have him removed from your home. From your description, he seems to be a violent, gaslighting bully who doesn't care about you or your kids. You must not allow yourself to be treated this way. It's bad for you and for your children. You can manage without him. In fact, you'll be far better off without him.

LikeTheOceansWeRise · 08/09/2021 18:47

Yes he provides financially, but he provides no love or comfort. Anyone who has grown up in an abusive home would testify that it's better to grow up in a home where there is less money, but where they feel safe and loved.

You are still so young, you don't deserve decades more of this, and neither do your children.

foxy86 · 08/09/2021 18:48

I voted YABU because you are putting your kids in this situation instead of leaving. It’s your job to safeguard your children from this kind of behaviour. By staying you are putting your children at risk of being harmed even more. You need to leave and get some help and support.

ImprobablePuffin · 08/09/2021 18:50

He punched you in the face. HE PUNCHED YOU IN THE FACE!

And you're asking if you're being unreasonable?!
He's really done a number on you hasn't he.

Get him the fuck away from you and your children. And then report him to the police and show photos of what he has done to your face.

ShellyShore · 08/09/2021 18:50

Sweetheart, show your children what a strong mother they have and make plans to leave this unhappy union for everyone's sake.

You have time on your side to make a good life for you and your children. Take one manageable step at a time every day. You have it in you to make it happen. You say you love this man but somethings must come before your love for a man and that is the welfare and happiness of your children - you are their world atm. Put them and yourself first and get out of this terrible situation.
You'll feel so proud of yourself when you start making those plans for a better life.
All the best. Flowers

frogsbreath · 08/09/2021 18:52

Your home isn't safe for you or your children

If you won't leave to protect yourself, leave and protect your children. Keep them safe x you can do it for you all x

LowlandLucky · 08/09/2021 18:52

Yes YABU because you are still there, you say this has been going on for years, nothing has changed and he makes your life hell and your children's life hell, so put him out. Before you do make photocopies of all his financial paperwork including banks statements and pension paperwork. When you do put him outdo not allow him to take the children on holiday abroad.

Imnothereforthedrama · 08/09/2021 18:55

Even without the assault the name calling the general being nasty and disrespectful.
The control your kids comments, the fact that he choose to be late for his own dc on her birthday, how fucking cruel is that ? . All your dc will remember is this shit birthday that her dad gives no shits about her and attacks her mum.
Fucking disgusting and I never swear , do something about it today for your dc . You will be fine without him I promise you , you just some legal advice regarding finances at least you will and your dc will be happier.

Muchmorethan · 08/09/2021 18:58

You were told on your previous thread about your husband and his brother that he was abusive.