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Argument with husband

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Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:11

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

OP posts:
Motnight · 08/09/2021 18:11

You're 23. You know that this is wrong or you wouldn't post. He is a racist abuser and a crap dad.

Mumsnet can help you Op.

Ohdoleavemealone · 08/09/2021 18:12

Stop settling for this shit. You have year ahead of you. Can you really live like this for another 50-60 years?

He is abusing both you and your daughter. Teach her now that she is worth more than this. Set her free and take her to the bloody cinema!

Stompythedinosaur · 08/09/2021 18:13

He is abusive and he doesn't love you or your dc.

You owe it to yourself and your dc to leave. You all deserve much, much better than this.

lyntheyresexpeople · 08/09/2021 18:14

Run. It doesn't matter if you think you love him - even if you don't care about the way he treats you, assaulting you physically and mentally, you very clearly love your daughter. He is emotionally abusing your children. That should be enough ammo to get him the fuck out. No more "if you do this once more" - now. Set a good example for your children, and get this awful man away from them.
Call the police and log the assault. If he is taken for questioning, pack enough for you and your children for the immediate future, get out your house and don't tell him where you are. Or, when he's at work tomorrow, get their things and get out before it's too late. So many of these stories end in a murder. Please get out.

Whywonttheyhelpme · 08/09/2021 18:15

GET OUT. Get away from that vile, abusive piece of work.

Go anywhere. Family, friends, neighbours, police, women’s aid- a total stranger would treat you with more respect than this “man” you call your husband.

If you cannot do it for yourself, do it for your children.

hairymorag · 08/09/2021 18:15

I usually cant help myself and lose it on these threads when I hear about woman staying with abusive and violent men. I have learned it isnt a simple process to leave. For me my mother had three DC by the time she was 21, married my dad when pregnant with #1 at 18. They had a dreadful relationship and she was beaten by my dad, dragged down the stairs by her hair when pregnant, and when not pregnant beaten. She never left him...we DC lived in fear, cowering in our rooms. The anxiety it has left us with as adults is horrendous, the men we dated initially were abusive as that was where our bar was set as it was 'normal' to live in heightened states of anxiety, always feeling you have ti give yourself to men and that equates to love...in a bizarre twisted logic. I was angry at my mum for not leaving him and couldnt understand why she didnt ...i should add he left her for OW, she was devastated despite sleeping with a knife under her pillow for years.

I did end up in an abusive relationship but difference was I had worked hard to get a a career was very independent but still ended up with a shit, got pregnant and police were involved...difference was I went to court, he got NC with his DC and it was the best thing i did and my DS has had a better life because of my decision.

You are a victim of abuse as are your DC. It is a dreadful situation for you all but you need to contact womans aid, get some support and start coming up with a plan for you to see the life you could have without an abuser...

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 08/09/2021 18:16

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Diva66 · 08/09/2021 18:16

Leave this abusive sorry excuse of a man ASAP. He punched you in the face and you apologised to him?? You don’t need this and nor do your children.

viques · 08/09/2021 18:17

@Marni83

Why on earth did you not take her yourself?
Not quite the point.......

Have a Brew and read the first post again where he punches her.

Loki01 · 08/09/2021 18:18

is this a wind-up?

Lolapusht · 08/09/2021 18:18

@Zenab12 definitely move this to Relationships or start another thread as you need some practical support. Your husband is very abusive and there is nothing you can do (or should do) to change that. The only thing you can do to change things is to divorce him, but you will need a plan.

If you’re only 23 now, how old were you when you first started seeing each other? How long after did you get married? How old is he? What sort of relationships did you see as you grew up? From what you’ve written, it sounds like you need help to adjust your expectations of what a relationship should be (eg, it’s not up to you to change what you do to try to moderate your husband’s moods. He is solely responsible for his anger). He ruined your DD’s birthday probably on purpose. The only person who should be apologising is him, but he won’t. It is not your job to fix him and make him a nice person. Relationships should make you feel supported, happy, loved etc. You’re so young and have so much to offer if you just allow yourself permission to leave. The best thing you can give your DCs is freedom from an abusive dad.

Good luck Flowers

moynomore · 08/09/2021 18:18

Posters need to stop telling this poor woman she should have taken her daughter herself! How does that help and she was hoping for a family birthday.

Please OP, you need to get out an do not minimise that he punched you. My sister is in a similar situation and I would do anything for her if she would just leave. You need to protect your daughter.

abw94 · 08/09/2021 18:18

He punched you and you apologised? Leave. Right. Now.

This is an abusive relationship, how long until he physically hurts the children? If he can hit a woman then I wouldn't put the children past him.

FourTeaFallOut · 08/09/2021 18:19

Pick up your children and leave. He's a thug and you all deserve better.

thegcatsmother · 08/09/2021 18:20

In 35 years of marriage, dh has never laid a finger on me in anger, and if he had, he would have been straight out of the house and the relationship. You do not have to put up with this, and as for 'English brain's, words fail me. He evidently doesn't like you thinking for yourself.

Do you want to make your daughter think this treatment is acceptable by staying?

OmgIcantbelieveshedidit · 08/09/2021 18:21

Right for starters it is over finished. You might love him. He doesn’t love you. Love does not punch people in the face.

He is totally in the wrong 💯 not 99 but full on in the wrong. He is demeaning your lives, I feel for you DD she was me - my father used to ruin birthday etc and it scarred me. He name calls, he is financially abusive he is coercive he is an abusers.

And he is a racist. A total racist. That is a line right there.

I’d be a bit clever that he thinks. I would get a confession on the phone and recorded and then via text.

Ie I’d text him and say my face is all sore from where you punched me in the face last night. It’s bruising badly I think I need to go to a and e. Or something similar or I need some arnica cream and try to get him to admit in a text he hit me. This was how I caught my ex out he hit and wrote me an apology saying I’m so sorry for my words alone never mind what else I did - I wrote back my bruising is going down why did you hit me - him I’m so sorry I did I lost it - please forgive me. I screenshot the lot and forwarded it to 3 close friends by email and then deleted the email. Same with any recording, one you have it - go to the police immediately - pop out with the children and phone 999. Explain what happened and that he is the house. Ask the police to apply for an immediate non molestion order and protect you and the girls. Push hard with the police but then divorce him and bring your girls up in a loving home without violence

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 08/09/2021 18:22

@sabbii

as soon as you mentioned his ethnicity I knew he sounded really backward (sweeping generalisation but so true).

NOONE deserves to be treated that way, please leave and be happy.
Plus call the police.

A very racist generalisation.

Stick to the point of the op and keep your thoughts about his ethnicity to yourself.

Roselilly36 · 08/09/2021 18:25

Appalling behaviour from your DH, so sorry OP. You need to be safe, leave with the children as soon as you can.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/09/2021 18:25

He called you and your kids names, lets you down constantly, isn't thoughtful and caring and HIT you, yet your'e the one apologising...... Don't teach your kids that this is ok, they are learning from you and you need to protect them.
He wants you to beg him, then after that, everything will be on his terms.
If you accept this now, he WILL hit you again and it will get harder and harder to leave. You know deep down you and your kids are worth more than this. Don't dig your own grave, you've done the first step by realising that how he treats you is wrong, now do something about it.

ThreeFlowers · 08/09/2021 18:26

Your DH is an abuser, you need to get out.

Flickerofhope · 08/09/2021 18:27

Zenab12 You apologised him for punching you in the face??? Leave the abusive . Take the kids and go, you don’t need to rely on him for anything.

Bellagio40 · 08/09/2021 18:29

Leave before he kills you. There is nothing lovable about him. He hates you and will keep attacking you. Don’t even think about apologising

Granllanog · 08/09/2021 18:30

Please leave. NOW!!!

This is no way to live

DowntonCrabby · 08/09/2021 18:30

For your children’s sake OP you must leave him, you don’t want little girls growing up to think this is a healthy manifestation of a relationship.

You owe it to them OP, please get the support you need to leave. As well as the DC though you know you deserve better than this.

Please also do the freedom course. Flowers

Polkadots2021 · 08/09/2021 18:31

@Zenab12

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

Oh my God OP, I was going to say that it should be over before I got to the 'he punched me' part. This is terrible. You and your kids would be so so much happier without him. He's a horrible guy.