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Argument with husband

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Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:11

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 08/09/2021 19:00

You don't love him.

You THINK that you NEED him. You think you love who he COULD be if he'd just stop being a nasty manipulating controlling bullying abusive arsehole.

He is NEVER going to be that person, he does not WANT to change, he is quite happy being who he is and hitting you when he feels like it.

As the saying goes 'he is showing you who he is. Believe him'.

Get the kids, get what you need and get out. It does not matter if you won't 'have everything' what matters is they WONT see their mother getting punched in the face, they won't grow up thinking that its ok for men to mess women around and abuse them.

Look at your daughter right now. Look at her.

Do you WANT her to grow up thinking it is normal for a man to make women cry and hit them?

If you stay with him, you are telling her that is acceptable.

So even if you don't want to do this for you, you NEED to do this for them.

Outbutnotoutout · 08/09/2021 19:00

He PUNCHED YOU IN THE FACE

it's not the first time

What would you tell your children if it was happening to them

REPORT TO THE POLICE and get him out!!!!

Then divorce him

Please

3scape · 08/09/2021 19:00

He's a self obsessed abusive arsehole. You need to leave, before the violence escalates. He doesn't sound like someone who will push for access, but if he does it clearly needs to be supervised as has so unstable.

Flumo · 08/09/2021 19:01

Please don't say sorry to him, get in touch with your local Domestic abuse service. Mine helped me though a lot of shite. All the best.

goldfinchfan · 08/09/2021 19:01

Do not stay with this man because he has made no effort to be better in his behaviour and if he has been brought up to believe he is always right then he won't change.

I am sad for your daughter. It does matter that he ruined her birthday.
I Hope you can see that he punched you which is physical assault and that is completely wrong.
It doesn't matter what you said
Nothing excuses punching you in the face
Eventually he will treat his daughter a similar way.
Don't let this continue, It sounds like he is already wearing you down.
the fact is in some cultures men do not respect women and you do not want to be with a man who will see no wrong in being violent to you.
It is his bad behaviour that needs to change.

I was worried when you wrote that he is angry that you have not taught the children to repect him. We don't do it this way in the UK Not anymore.
Does he have relatives who will also be violent?

I agree with PP saying go ot the Police. You need help and support.

CustardySergeant · 08/09/2021 19:01

OP, think about how would you feel if your daughter married someone like him in the future. You'd be horrified and scared for her, wouldn't you? Well, you need to look after yourself AND your children and you can only do that by leaving him. Get in touch with the police and Women's Aid and do both now. For your sake and your children's.

Chloemol · 08/09/2021 19:05

You call the police and report the assault

You get very thing together, papers etc and leave. Steel legal advice

He is abusive to you and your children

skodadoda · 08/09/2021 19:06

I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that

Zenab, absolutely nothing justifies him hurting you. It’s wrong, don’t apologise to him. He’s an abuser.

Cakeandcardio · 08/09/2021 19:06

He's a thug and he's abused you both physically and emotionally. There's no excuse for that. He's using money against you too and using it to control you but I can be absolutely certain that your children will always remember birthdays that have been ruined. They will never care or remember if they don't have everything in financial terms but they will always care about being in a happy and secure and loving home where they are not abused. Good luck to you.

Plumtree391 · 08/09/2021 19:06

@skodadoda

I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that

Zenab, absolutely nothing justifies him hurting you. It’s wrong, don’t apologise to him. He’s an abuser.

There is NO justification! What's more, he knows that.
GameSetMatch · 08/09/2021 19:07

YABU by keeping yourself and your children in this situation.

Why didn’t you take the children to the cinema on your own? Are you allowed to go out without him?

He’s hit you in the face, shouted at your daughter on her birthday, I’d be packing his bags and calling the police.

User57327259 · 08/09/2021 19:08

Your family might be happy to have you back among them. They will not have been pleased that you fell under the control of an abusive man but they still love you and your DC. You might be worried about eating humble pie or it being said that they told you but your DC and you are worth so much more than pride and loss of face. Your safety is of the utmost importance.

Take care of DC and you by getting well away from this nasty piece of work
It is not easy but very worth it.

skodadoda · 08/09/2021 19:15

Zenab you say that you love him. Do you love him more than your children? He will eventually hit them and you could be forced to take them to a place of safety. You do need to get help.

Thethreecs · 08/09/2021 19:18

Your husband has brain washed you into thinking you need and love him.

You can get lots of help to see clearly.

Your marriage is not normal.

Your husband is not normal.

PROTECT your children and put an end to this disgusting behaviour. Your kids will be in therapy for the rest of their lives. That's if they live to see adulthood because men like him are usually violent towards the kids as well as their wife.

Fernando072020 · 08/09/2021 19:18

What a horrible man. I was originally going to say why didnt you take the kids yourself to the cinema when he didn't turn up but you have much bigger problems. This is not a normal argument. He's abusive and you'd be much happier on your own

Beautiful3 · 08/09/2021 19:19

He punched you in the face?! Oh my goodness, thats terrible. You must phone womens refuge and ask them for help to.leave. what a horrible man, he is making you and your children miserable and afraid. That is.no life to live.

PuntasticUsername · 08/09/2021 19:19

"You were told on your previous thread about your husband and his brother that he was abusive."

Right. It's almost like abusive relationships are notoriously hard to leave or something 🤔

Sorry to be snarky, it just winds me up when people police vulnerable OPs like this.

Terzani · 08/09/2021 19:20

The best birthday gift for your daughter is to leave this man. I grew up in such a family, with my father beating my mother, causing scandals, humiliating her, cheating on her and threatening to leave us penniless. These things don't change with time, they can only get worse. For years I lived in fear that one day he would kill her. Each day spent far away from him was like a gift, and the day when they finally divorced was so good.
Believe me, your children will strongly resent you if you don't leave. They will blame you and hate you, I promise that. By staying, you will guarantee them an unhappy childhood and mental health problems later in life.
What you feel for this man is not love, it's only you clinging to your own innocent hope in a beautiful fairytale with a happy end. But there is no love and no fairytale when the husband punches the wife and keeps her in fear. You are so young, please give yourself the chance to find true love and that beautiful fairytale elsewhere.

sHREDDIES19 · 08/09/2021 19:24

This might sound heavy handed but it’s the pure truth; by staying you are complicit in your children’s mental health problems later in life. You have to leave to ensure their happiness. End of.

Freshair87 · 08/09/2021 19:28

Please don't teach your daughter this is what a normal relationship is like, put your kids first and leave the prick

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 08/09/2021 19:29

You absolutely must leave him. Take the children.

Or preferably call the police and report his crime, and they’ll take him away, and give him bail conditions not to come back.

He was emotionally abusive to your daughter in his conduct re her birthday. That was deliberate and designed to hurt her and put her in her place, as a child and (I suspect) as a female.

cookingisoverrated · 08/09/2021 19:31

Please call Women's Aid.

Your husband is abusive.

He punched you and hit you when you tried to address his shitty, abusive behaviour and rather than leave, you are chasing him around apologising. Insanity!

Please contact Women's Aid. Ask for support in getting out, going to the police. Take pictures of your face where he punched you. And get him out of your home.

You deserve better. Your children deserve better. Do not raise them in a violent household with an abusive arsehole. That's not fair to them.

Thatsplentyjack · 08/09/2021 19:34

So you stood up for yourself when he was being horrible to you and the children because you know hoe is put of order and it needs to stop, bit he punched you in the face and now you are chasing after him to apologise? Wtf OP?

2pinkginsplease · 08/09/2021 19:35

Please leave him, this situation will only get worse,.

What advice would you give your daughter if she was telling you that her DH treats her like your DH treats you?

You can do better! It’ll be tough to start with but you’ll be happier in the long run.

Thatsplentyjack · 08/09/2021 19:36

OP how old is your husband and where do you live?