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Argument with husband

230 replies

Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:11

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

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beastlyslumber · 08/09/2021 17:38

Report to the police. Call Women's Aid. Get your kids and LEAVE.

He has beaten you so low and got you so terrified that you are trying to apologise when he punched you in the face. Please see this for what it is and get yourself to safety. next time (and there will definitely be a next time) he could do far worse and your children could end up without their mother.

Please listen to the wisdom of women on this thread and get yourself and your kids safe.

bigbeatmanifesto · 08/09/2021 17:38

He punched you, your asking if you were unreasonable. He has mentally abused you into thinking physical abuse is ok, he's emotionally abusing you and your children and is being violent towards you, leave with your children as soon as you possibly can. Situations like this only escalate & him saying see what kind of life you have without me is his way of making you think you won't survive without him. You will infact your life will be drastically easier without the burden of what mood will he be in when he comes home.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 08/09/2021 17:40

You've posted about him before haven't you?

This is abusive. You can't see this now because he's manipulated you into thinking you need him.

Your little girl will remember this birthday forever. Let her remember the next birthday for all the right reasons.

Please contact women's aid. He is getting worse not better.

Your kids will model their relationships on yours.

SukiPook · 08/09/2021 17:40

He's completely in the wrong and is not going to change, especially not by you staying and talking and trying to make him see logic. As others have said, ring the police and report the assault - or ring Women's Aid. Even if you don't quite feel mentally ready to leave or don't know how to get him to leave... Women's Aid are really good at helping with that sort of thing. It's not just for women fleeing who are in danger (although as you've been punched, you of course can get them to help you leave him, they have women's refuges etc), but they will explain the cycle of abuse to you and why he is nice one minute and nasty the next and how it will always come back to him being nasty; and they can give you legal help, for instance if you think it would be better for him to move out and you and the kids stay, they can put you in touch with solicitors who can help you with that... And they can liaise with police if needed, for instance if he attacks you again... Anyway you are not being unreasonable, he is out of order, big time; he's being emotionally /verbally AND physically abusive and he's damaging the kids (if they stay in this situation seeing him treat you like that and with him treating them nastily too, they are more likely when older to suffer from anxiety /depression /drink or substance abuse / abusive relationships.) So for everyone's sake... leave or get police/women's aid to make HIM leave. You will not be letting him down , he has already let you and the kids down, he's not upholding his end of the marriage and thinks he is justified treating you and the children any way he likes just because he is working and earning money. Get out of the situation but get help, honestly, Women's Aid are brilliant, just phone them and tell them what you've told us and they will really help you. They can also encourage you about talking to the police. No-one has the right to assault you! You totally can get him banned from coming near you. I think holding on to the fact that he is damaging the kids will help you. Just take one step at a time, reach out for help. Good luck!

Neonplant · 08/09/2021 17:40

He's a bully. Please don't subject your children to his behaviour.

TomorrowsPrincess · 08/09/2021 17:41

YOU didn't make him punch you in the face and YOU have NOTHING to be sorry for!
Take your babies and leave the abusive bastard. He doesn't care about hurting you or hurting your kids emotionally. Also I would question him being on his phone all the time...... he's probably a cheating bastard too!

Please, just leave him and build up you and your babies. You deserve so much better

Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:41

I've only been trying to call him and apologise because I love him and I've been trying for so long to fix things and try to understand, it's not the first time he has hit me and I've told him that he has anger issues that he needs to talk to someone about but he just doesn't listen to me. I love him and that's the problem. The other issue why I've stayed for so long is because when I got married to him I left everything for him, I'm still only 23.when I got married I left my education, family everything. I've wanted to work after having both my kids but he's never let me work and never wanted me to either and it upsets me so much the way he talks saying " I've given you everything you and the kids will realise one day" when I've tried and asked him to let me work or go back and finish my education. The reason I've not left is because Im scared about giving the kids less he does provide everything for us financially and I'm scared to be on my own because I know i have nothing to give them because of my situation and it's terrifing me not being able to give them the life that they deserve. I know they don't deserve this and when they go to sleep I go in and look at them and cry and feel guilty because they really are angels, my daughter is the most kindest, smartest, beautiful little girl I've ever seen in my life and it breaks my heart when he treats her the same way as he treats me.

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Beehappy21 · 08/09/2021 17:43

Remember that you're daughters are watching, thinking this is how a 'normal' family life should be... take them and run 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️

2bazookas · 08/09/2021 17:44

Go to police. make complaint of physical domestic abuse and get the bruise photographed.

For your childrens' sake as well as yours, you need to get them away from him and make a life of your own.

ScabbyHorse · 08/09/2021 17:44

You will be able to claim benefits for a while if you leave him, until you get a job. Even if you get a part time job you will still be able to claim some benefits. Also he will have to pay towards his children. But you need the power of the law behind you so it is important to tell the police about the assault and get advice from women's aid or citizens advice have excellent advice on benefits.

Topseyt · 08/09/2021 17:44

I find it unbelievable that you want to apologise to someone who has punched you in the face and has for years verbally abused you and your children.!! He must have really ground you down and destroyed your confidence.

You need to report this to the police and you need to get him out of your lives. You and the children will be so much happier if free of him.

kittenkipping · 08/09/2021 17:45

Please report his assault, contact woman's aid and LEAVE. For your children's sake leave. Love or not they desevere to live in a calm and safe environment which this isn't. He's emotionally abusing them and physically financially and physically abusing you. Children who grow up in abusive homes often struggle as adults to stay out of abusive relationships- because abuse is their norm. Please don't burden their lives by teaching them that this is normal and what a family should look like.

HerRoyalRisesAgain · 08/09/2021 17:45

You can give them a happy life away from an abusive father.
Or stay and let them grow up thinking abuse is ok, that they can treat you like crap, or be treated like crap.
What would you say to your daughter of she had an abusive husband? Would you expect her to stay "because she loves him" or because "she'd have nofhing"
Or would you tell her that no amount of money or lifestyle for the family is worth being abused for?

butterpuffed · 08/09/2021 17:45

it breaks my heart when he treats her the same way as he treats me.

Then do something about it and leave before her heart is broken by his treatment too.

Redjumper1 · 08/09/2021 17:45

Telephone Women's Aid. They will help you. As you have been abused for years, you will struggle having the confidence to leave. Women's Aid are used to dealing with abused women and will have the tools to help you. Please contact them and explain your situation.

buckeejit · 08/09/2021 17:46

There are lots of threads of people who have been on your place & scared. The ones who have left have managed to progress their lives. He will not change. You need to leave. MN can be very supportive to get you through this & signpost you to where you need to go. Start with police & women's aid.

Do it for your dc & good luck

LizzieSiddal · 08/09/2021 17:46

it breaks my heart when he treats her the same way as he treats me

It will only get worse if you stay with him! Your Dd will be next to be hit by him, he’s a violent nasty man and you MUST protect your children. Many women have been in your position, and think they can’t leave but they take a deep breath and reach out for help. You need to phone Women's Aid and they will help you.

Again I’ll say it’s YOUR job to protect your children from this abusive excuse for a man.

Rainbowsew · 08/09/2021 17:47

What an absolute bastard! Angry
Your poor poor daughter Sad
He doesn't deserve the respect of any of you...

Shouldbedoing · 08/09/2021 17:48

If he's your husband he has to provide for the children and you by law. And Universal Credit, Child Benefit and significant help with nursery/childcare fees can make your life better than it is now. He is physically abusive, emotionally abusive and I'll bet he's financially abusive too. Make a note of these injuries and make a plan to leave Women's Aid can help. You're worth more than this miserable treatment.

Drinkingallthewine · 08/09/2021 17:48

I know they don't deserve this and when they go to sleep I go in and look at them and cry and feel guilty because they really are angels, my daughter is the most kindest, smartest, beautiful little girl I've ever seen in my life and it breaks my heart when he treats her the same way as he treats me.

Ok, so if they don't deserve it, leave him so that you can teach them they are worth more than men who are abusive to them. If you stay, that beautiful kid daughter will marry a brute exactly like her father because she will think that's how men are.

Show her a different future.

Cuddlemuffin · 08/09/2021 17:49

Leave and do it before he assaults one of you children next time. They won't ever thank you for sticking by this man who treats both you and them badly.

Shitfuckcommaetc · 08/09/2021 17:53

You can't fix him.

Lalliella · 08/09/2021 17:53

You shouldn’t be apologising. He assaulted you, he is the one 100% in the wrong. Please call the police, and tell him you want him to leave. You’re in danger. He is an evil abusive man. For your sake and the kids’ sake, end this marriage. Once violence comes into it there can be no going back.

8% of PPs voting YABU - you ought to be completely ashamed of yourselves.

MordenLarch · 08/09/2021 17:55

He’s physically assaulted you. You need to leave - now. Good luck x

EvenRosesHaveThorns · 08/09/2021 17:55

Run

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