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Argument with husband

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Zenab12 · 08/09/2021 17:11

So last night me and my husband got into an argument, it's sort of an argument that's been going on for a while but every so often it becomes quite a big argument. Yesterday it was our daughters birthday and after school we took her to the cinema ( my daughter told us 3 weeks ago that on her birthday she wanted to go to the cinema and McDonald's, my husband has known about this for weeks and still decided to come home late from work ( he's self. Employed and his own boss) I called him to see where he was as it was half an hour before the movie we wanted to see was due to start and just kept saying " we will see" and at that point I got quite upset about this as both the kids were already to go and I wasn't prepared to let my daughter down ( as my husband works 5 days a week he's hardly ever home and always says he will do things with us which don't happen) he came home and when he told our daughter it was to late to go he would try and take her somewhere else she started crying and he lost it at me telling me that I should control "my" children and make them understand if you can't do something you can't do something. I replied to this " it's her birthday, she told you weeks ago this is what she wanted us to do, and now your blaming me because your probably feeling bad about letting her down again" he walked off in a strop. Later that night he was trying to talk to our daughter and she got upset and pushed her away and he shouted at her and made her cry calling her stupid. I told him this needs to stop that he needs to stop upsetting us like this expecially the children and name calling. He told me that I should teach my kids " to respect their father" and that if it wasn't for "him" we would see wha kind of life we would have had.

After a rather horrible end to her birthday I put the kids to bed and went in to tell him that if he talks to me or the kids like that again he should just go, this is a recurring things for years now. Every day when he comes home from work he is always snapping at us, name calling, expecially me apparently I am " good for nothing" and have an " English brain" ( he's Pakistani) an I got fed up with him and lost it, I told him that if his daughter doesn't respect him it's nothing to do with me ( as he insists I am brainwashing them against him which is absolutely not true I've never spoke bad about him infront of them and I never would) I told him it's down to him if they don't respect him bevause the way he treats them. I also told him that I was fed up of him making me cry and feel sad all the time, that even when we sleep together I get fed up and don't want anything bevause I just remember 5he names hes called me and he only ever treats me nice when we sleep together. He told me he doesn't want to be with me anymore and that me and the kids should go and have a happy life and see how far we get without him. I tried telling him I didn't mean it in that way and that I just want things to change, work life balance, him not being On the phone all the time, him coming home and not making someone cry because he's had a stressful day. He wouldn't let me touch him and I started crying and he punched me in the face and slapped me on my hands, I have a bruise on my face now. I've tried telling him I'm sorry and that I didn't mean it how he thinks, he's gone to work today and I've tried calling him to say sorry and he is just ignoring my calls and won't answer me. Was Ibu with what I said to him? Was it to harsh? I keep trying to think what I've said that's really wrong to justify him hurting me like that but alls I've basically said is tha he needs to sort himself and his behaviour out.

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LittleOwl153 · 08/09/2021 17:57

Is this the life you want your daughter to lead - you are teaching her what a woman should do. Her father has no respect for her she is just another piece of female trash there to serve him.

Do you have son's? He's teaching them to be abusive wife beaters... and that their women should be submissive female trash there to serve them. Is this really what you want for your children?

Get out. You are married - therefore you get 50% of all marital assets as a starting point. Get as much info on his business as you can as that is where he will hide income/funds.

LizzieSiddal · 08/09/2021 17:57

If you wish for lots more advise ask MNHQ to move this thread to the Relationships board.xx

Lalliella · 08/09/2021 17:57

@Zenab12

I've only been trying to call him and apologise because I love him and I've been trying for so long to fix things and try to understand, it's not the first time he has hit me and I've told him that he has anger issues that he needs to talk to someone about but he just doesn't listen to me. I love him and that's the problem. The other issue why I've stayed for so long is because when I got married to him I left everything for him, I'm still only 23.when I got married I left my education, family everything. I've wanted to work after having both my kids but he's never let me work and never wanted me to either and it upsets me so much the way he talks saying " I've given you everything you and the kids will realise one day" when I've tried and asked him to let me work or go back and finish my education. The reason I've not left is because Im scared about giving the kids less he does provide everything for us financially and I'm scared to be on my own because I know i have nothing to give them because of my situation and it's terrifing me not being able to give them the life that they deserve. I know they don't deserve this and when they go to sleep I go in and look at them and cry and feel guilty because they really are angels, my daughter is the most kindest, smartest, beautiful little girl I've ever seen in my life and it breaks my heart when he treats her the same way as he treats me.
Read up about coercive control OP. Your husband is controlling you by not allowing you to work, he’s trapping you in the relationship. You’re so young, you have your whole life ahead of you, please don’t waste it on this bastard. He’ll have to pay you maintenance for the children if you split, so you can use that to buy them things, plus you can’t have been out of the job market for that long, you can get back into it. But I bet your kids would rather not be bought things and be living in a happy home, than the existence they have now.
Snugglepumpkin · 08/09/2021 17:58

Leave & give your children the gift of not having to grow up watching their mother get verbally & physically assaulted by their father.

Leave & save them the nightmares, the growing up wondering when he'll raise his hand to them, the hiding in another room while you sob on the floor.

He will keep hitting you.
You will keep having bruises, or maybe broken bones next, or perhaps he'll hit his daughter next time she wants to rely on her parents to take her the cinema on her birthday.

He hit you & you have children to protect.
It wasn't even the first time & it is nowhere near the last.
Nothing else you've posted matters.

Hoppinggreen · 08/09/2021 17:58

@Zenab12

I've only been trying to call him and apologise because I love him and I've been trying for so long to fix things and try to understand, it's not the first time he has hit me and I've told him that he has anger issues that he needs to talk to someone about but he just doesn't listen to me. I love him and that's the problem. The other issue why I've stayed for so long is because when I got married to him I left everything for him, I'm still only 23.when I got married I left my education, family everything. I've wanted to work after having both my kids but he's never let me work and never wanted me to either and it upsets me so much the way he talks saying " I've given you everything you and the kids will realise one day" when I've tried and asked him to let me work or go back and finish my education. The reason I've not left is because Im scared about giving the kids less he does provide everything for us financially and I'm scared to be on my own because I know i have nothing to give them because of my situation and it's terrifing me not being able to give them the life that they deserve. I know they don't deserve this and when they go to sleep I go in and look at them and cry and feel guilty because they really are angels, my daughter is the most kindest, smartest, beautiful little girl I've ever seen in my life and it breaks my heart when he treats her the same way as he treats me.
The life you and your daughters actually deserve is the one where their father doesn’t hit their mum and call them all names. If you can’t leave for yourself can you do it for your daughter? He is verbally abusive to her now, maybe he will hit her too one day soon? Think about that rather than how much he provides financially
EileenGC · 08/09/2021 17:59

Please OP, LEAVE. Leave ASAP. Do you have any family or friends you could go to for the short to medium term?

I grew up in a 'family' just like the one you describe. It is horrendous. You do not want your children growing up there.

Why would you want them around this man who pushes them away? Who hits you? Who calls you names?

He will NOT change. My dad just broke my mum's finger last month. He is still calling my younger siblings names and going after them physically. I do not speak to him anymore and we have all been left profoundly traumatized by the abuse we experienced.

My mum didn't leave. She's still suffering like she did the first day he started like that. We all have trauma and emotional issues from it.

You're young. You can start over. You CAN be someone without him. Of course you can. Please leave this 'man' as soon as you can - for your children if not for you. This is not normal.

Barbie222 · 08/09/2021 18:00

Take passports, switch off anything traceable on your phone and leave with your children.

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wewereliars · 08/09/2021 18:00

Marni 83 missing the point much!

QueenBee52 · 08/09/2021 18:00

@PinkFootstool

Throw the asshole out and get a divorce. Life is far too short for you or the children to live like this.

I couldn't agree more...

what a vile bullying prick he is ..

Hadalifeonce · 08/09/2021 18:01

You are being very unreasonable, your DH punched you and you are trying to apologise to him?

Kdubs1981 · 08/09/2021 18:01

I'm sorry. You are being abused. Your children are being abused. You need to make plans to leave. Could you ring women's aid?

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 08/09/2021 18:02

Look on entitledto.com. Put your details in there as a single parent and see how much you can claim. Remember he will have to pay maintenence too.

Its not a fortune but its certainly enough to live on, kids don't need lots of things they need to be loved, and safe. You can provide that.

Hadalifeonce · 08/09/2021 18:02

I would be calling the police, not him

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Nanny0gg · 08/09/2021 18:05

You cannot possibly love him unless you don't know what love is. Except that you do because you love your children.

Why do you stay and let him abuse all of you?

Get the help that's been advised above and get out.

He will not ever change and you can't let your children live like that.

NoSquirrels · 08/09/2021 18:05

Are you still in touch with your family, OP, or are you isolated from them (maybe they didn’t approve of him, or he’s prevented you seeing much of them)?

Please call Women’s Aid when you’re safe to do so (he’s not in the house) and tell them what you’ve written here. They’ll help you make a plan.

You are young and you have your whole life ahead of you. You don’t have to stay with this man - you can provide for your children, you are enough.

Please reach out for help in real life.

DelphiniumBlue · 08/09/2021 18:07

It is not your fault he hit you. It's nothing you've said or done, he hits you because he thinks that's OK. If he loved you or cared about you he wouldn't do it. I bet he doesn't have a problem controlling his temper at work, or with other men. He hits you because you can't fight back, because he sees it as his right to be able to control you, and he thinks it's acceptable to take out his frustrations on you physically.
You are young, so I will clarify for you that he is committing a criminal offence when he hits you. No ifs, no buts, it is illegal. There are no circumstances in which it is acceptable for a man to assault his wife.It doesn't matter what you said, you could have called him every name under the sun, it is still against the law for him to hit you.
So, step 1: take photographs of the bruises, and email them to someone else so he can't wipe them. Step 2: go to the doctor and show them the bruise, so that there is a medical record. Step 3 : go to the police and report him for assault. While you are there, ask them to come to your home to protect you while you tell him to leave. Or to help you to a place of safety.
You are entitled to claim benefits and he will need to pay you CMS. You will be able to get your life back on track, to study or work. You can provide a better life for your children.

Ilovenandos · 08/09/2021 18:08

I don’t understand what you want from this post! You know it is abusive, you know he is controlling, you don’t want your kids to see how he treats you BUT you won’t leave him as you love him and won’t cope without him. There really is not anything to say to you except please think carefully and get out of this relationship. No brainier 🤷‍♀️

Plumtree391 · 08/09/2021 18:08

The only unreasonable thing from you is trying to tell him you are sorry. He was in the wrong and he knows it.

As for calling you horrible names and hitting you, that is beyond the pale. Everyone has stressful times but resorting to violence is not on.

I wonder if your husband is hiding anything from you.

Try to get your courage together, work out some practicalities and - leave him. You and your children are worth far more than an abusive husband and father.

toomuchlaundry · 08/09/2021 18:08

Take photos of your bruises. Tell the police. Get him to leave. If he won’t leave, you and DC need to get out

CyclingIsNotOuting · 08/09/2021 18:08

I'm scared to be on my own because I know i have nothing to give them
Will you hit them?
Will you let them down?
Will you ensure they are scared of you?
No, I thought not.

What they need is a safe home.
You can provide that.

Please report him to the police while you still have an injury to photograph. It’s much harder without this evidence (I’m speaking from experience here).

When I read your age I wanted to cry for you. What sort of a life is this for you?
You deserve not to be hit.
You deserve support.
You deserve not to feel scared.

Igmum · 08/09/2021 18:10

Please get out. He is violent, abusive and isolating you. I have been where you are now. I know the thought of getting out is terrifying but it is so, so much better once you have escaped. You and your kids will flourish away from this man. Good luck OP Thanks

DreamingofTimbuktu · 08/09/2021 18:11

You have nothing to apologise for. You need to leave him before he seriously hurts you or the children.