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Should I Let Her Husband Go Too?

444 replies

Perriwinkles · 19/08/2021 21:46

So, I am female. I have a male childhood friend. He met his now wife and she and I hit it off … in time. I made a huge effort with her & wanted to make sure she knew just how platonic her husband and I were. A true friendship then developed.

Roll on 8 years later and she and I had got very very close. Then one day, it all imploded. I thought it was a bad fight (& our only ever fight) but she cut me out entirely even though we had left each other on good terms that day. I was devastated & asked for an explanation. She wrote me a nasty text that I didn’t know she was capable of. I had never been so close to a friend & it affected me terribly. I spoke to a therapist about it and lost a lot of sleep.

Her husband, my long-standing friend, still makes an effort to maintain his friendship with me — we see each every once every few months and some texts. The problem is that every time I see him I am re-triggered. The friendship break-up cut me deep and seeing him opens up the wound every single time. It takes me weeks to recover. I have never once brought any of this up with him and I never discuss her with him. He brings her up though as he is consumed by her.

What do you think? Should I try to slowly phase him out too? The problem is … He’s universally adored! He’s one of those guys who doesn’t see people often but puts on his game face when he sees them and so ‘the gang’ all love him (when they see him at get-togethers, weddings etc.).

I want to move on (as I know she has) but what should I do?

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Chikapu · 20/08/2021 14:32

I feel like you're giving this person way too much power over you, are you afraid of his reaction if you say no?
I actually think it's a bit weird to meet a baby when you've had such a big falling out with its mother.

Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:36

Thanks for your comments. He’s a childhood friend so not meeting his baby is almost like not meeting a brother’s baby. The whole situation wrecks my head and yes, I have given it WAY too much headspace. I know I need to move on.

My other friends aren’t friends with me only to stay in touch with him. They are genuine people but it amazes me how little he has to do. He just layers on the wit and charm at social gatherings and has people falling over themselves to meet him and always on his terms. Meanwhile, he moans to me about having to spend money to go to their weddings and they tell me how great he is for making the effort to come to their weddings.

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Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:39

I just wonder, is it possible that it was a huge cascade of things all at once which you haven't quite finished untangling, rather than the friendship itself? thanks @badpuma yes, you’re right … and I felt like no matter what I went through, her problems were worse and I felt she minimised and trivialised my problems, which hurt a lot. I’m glad I don’t see her anymore but it’s as though I just cannot move on especially when he’s in my life. Similarly I have difficulty moving on from my ex-H, who I am on good terms with. I’ve always had issues letting go.

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Dogoodfeelgood · 20/08/2021 14:40

This is silly you don’t have to navigate anything, just go low contact with him and be lovely and friendly if you see him at group things. Don’t need to tell any of your friends that you’ve done so. It’ll naturally fade. Easy peasy.

Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:43

Thanks @Dogoodfeelgood what about the baby though? I can hardly not meet him when he keeps suggesting it?

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Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:44

To answer a PP, yes he did try to arrange for me to meet his son once but I genuinely couldn’t as he gave me a 20 minute window of his time with no notice!

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Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:45

@Dogoodfeelgood

It’ll naturally fade. Easy peasy

I’d love for this to happen. He is not making the fade-out easy!

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Dogoodfeelgood · 20/08/2021 14:46

He also sounds like a narcissist and you are trapped in his web. I think the % chance of you getting a good response from telling him why you’re not seeing him anymore is so low that it’s really not worth the glimmer of hope that you’ll somehow get closure out of it. Go low contact and eventually you’ll get to no contact except at weddings etc.

Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:47

Should I send them a card & present congratulating them on their baby?

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JennysMiddleFinger · 20/08/2021 14:49

I'm starting to think they need to lock the hutch and the pot cupboard.

Dogoodfeelgood · 20/08/2021 14:50

@Perriwinkles

Thanks *@Dogoodfeelgood* what about the baby though? I can hardly not meet him when he keeps suggesting it?
You said he’d given you a 20 min window the last time. I think it will be pretty easy to be “busy” if all his future requests are at such short notice, just make pleasant noises like “oh that would be lovely but unfortunately can’t this weekend”. Send a card if you would like but I wouldn’t give a gift to someone’s baby if the mother wasn’t speaking to me.
ohstopityourmakingitup · 20/08/2021 14:50

@JennysMiddleFinger

I'm starting to think they need to lock the hutch and the pot cupboard.
Grin
Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:50

@JennysMiddleFinger

What a very nasty comment.

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Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:51

@ohstopityourmakingitup
I guess playground dynamics are alive and well on MN.

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ohstopityourmakingitup · 20/08/2021 14:52

[quote Perriwinkles]@Dogoodfeelgood

It’ll naturally fade. Easy peasy

I’d love for this to happen. He is not making the fade-out easy![/quote]
Honestly OP I think your attachment to this man is unhealthy.

Go back to counselling and cut contact because you do sound a bit obsessed.

Can I ask what the argument with his wife was about?

MrsMaizel · 20/08/2021 14:54

This is getting more bizarre with all the updates ...

Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:54

@Dogoodfeelgood

Thank you. He sometimes gives more notice. I think you’re right about not sending a gift.

I guess I’m on holidays this week so I’ve just had more time to think about all of this. It’s been going on a while but I’ve been insanely busy and going through a separation & house move & new job so just getting around to properly processing it all with all that’s been going on. I think I would’ve moved on much much sooner if he didn’t continue to make contact.

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Zucker · 20/08/2021 14:56

Does he use you as a go between for your wider friendship group? Why are mutuals asking you when they will see him again.? Have you fallen into the trap of organising when he will grant the wider group an audience?

Umbra · 20/08/2021 14:58

When you get together, is it for a shared interest - film, gig, whatever, or is it just so you be the Listening Ear, while he rabbits on about his wife, her life, his life?

Cos that, imo, is rather cruel.

Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:58

@MrsMaizel
Why write something like that? To shame me? To get a reaction from others so ye can all laugh at me together? The comment didn’t even seem to be directed at me but rather at others much like @JennysMiddleFinger ‘s one. I suppose mocking others and laughing at them is less unhealthy than my issues?

I never comment on people’s threads unless I’m trying to help or say something nice.

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Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 14:59

@Zucker

Have you fallen into the trap of organising when he will grant the wider group an audience?

Yes! I live closer to him too.

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Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 15:01

@Umbra

It’s rarely for a mutual interest anymore (COVID) but a mutual interest would probably be the healthiest way to have a friendship. Tbh I’m really not sure there’s much to salvage anymore. I doubt I’ll hear from her again (at one point I thought I might) so I guess I need to concentrate on moving on but I’ll admit that can be difficult for me.

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diddl · 20/08/2021 15:06

"My other friends aren’t friends with me only to stay in touch with him."

That's wonderful.

So your friends won't drop away if you drop him away.

Perriwinkles · 20/08/2021 15:08

@diddl

No, they won’t. I guess I’m just not confident enough and worry too much about what they’ll think. I’ve been holding on because I thought it’d get easier (it’s actually got harder) or that she’d contact me and we’d make up (she hasn’t). So I suppose all arrows point to the exit. 😢

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MrsMaizel · 20/08/2021 15:08

[quote Perriwinkles]@MrsMaizel
Why write something like that? To shame me? To get a reaction from others so ye can all laugh at me together? The comment didn’t even seem to be directed at me but rather at others much like @JennysMiddleFinger ‘s one. I suppose mocking others and laughing at them is less unhealthy than my issues?

I never comment on people’s threads unless I’m trying to help or say something nice.[/quote]
No , the comment was aimed at your updates - it's gone from a weird situation where a man sees you and his wife doesn't talk to you . That is weird to start with . We are now at the stage that you are asking about seeing their baby ? What do you think his wife would think about that ? You do seem to be besotted by this man . You are comparing her issues and yours .... You say you don't want to him to make contact with you but you won't block him . What on earth is going on ? Are you enjoying the fact that he keeps contact with you behind his wife's back ?