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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 13:33

Apologies for the long post, I will try not to dripfeed.

I have a lovely husband, let’s call him Pete. We’ve been together almost a decade. He’s devoted to me, endlessly kind; nothing is too much trouble. A few years ago, we moved to a country where, unfortunately, he can’t get work (I’m OK as I work online). We’re planning to move elsewhere. In the meantime, he does all the shopping and cooking, chops wood for the fire, etc. We get on brilliantly and have none of the irritations I associate even with close friendships. We have the same tastes in music, films etc and often enjoy lovely weekends away doing things together like hiking or cycling. We never get bored with each other’s company.

Pete’s quite a bit younger than me, which hasn’t worried us over the years because as far as we’re concerned, being incredibly compatible is so lucky that it outweighs everything. However, one snag is our difference in life experience. He’s used to renting a place, and I’m not sure he’ll ever be what I’d call a responsible home owner. General maintenance etc doesn’t seem to occur to him, and I don’t want to be a nag, but find the overall neglect depressing when I’m so busy. He covers the basics, but anything else is a bit like pushing water uphill.

None of this might have mattered had it not been for life throwing me a curve ball.

My oldest friend, “John” (we’ve known each other 20-odd years), got divorced a couple of years ago. I helped him through the emotional process. We’ve always been close (despite him living in another country), but I suppose that brought us a bit closer for a while. I never thought much of it when he left his wife, but over the past couple of years we have exchanged friendly (not flirtatious!) messages and sometimes I find myself pining for the kind of life I could have with him. Over the years, we’ve had some great adventures together (when married to other people, so we never acknowledged or acted on the chemistry that was there), we have a good laugh, we understand each other well, and we have the same values. Pete, for example, can’t be bothered with family and I wish he made more effort to know my parents, who won’t be around for much longer; whereas I know John would connect well.

I am approaching retirement age and financial security has become more important to me than it once was. I hate to admit it, but combining forces with someone who has worked as hard as me is also appealing.

This is all churning round and round in my head, and I feel ridiculous. I don’t want to discuss it with anyone IRL, but would appreciate any input here. I hate feeling even a smidgen of disloyalty to Pete, because I adore him. It feels as though my priorities in life might be shifting somewhat, but maybe I’m just doing that “grass greener” thing and should just STFU.

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Westchesterarms · 20/07/2021 17:39

This is a very disappointing thread. Pete the Woodchopper was quite exciting, Pete the warcraft geek not so much.

CatherineAragon · 20/07/2021 17:41

What about love? I think you sound incredibly mercenary. Who do you actually love?

Miniestelle · 20/07/2021 17:42

@Ifitquacks

No one can chop wood all the time. But if he’s sleeping for say 8 hours, cooking/eating/showering for 3 hours and playing computer games for 6 hours, that still leaves 7 hours for chopping wood Grin
GrinGrin You are right. If Pete chops wood for seven solid hours that's seven solid hours that Pete chops wood.
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 20/07/2021 17:43

Ah - I posted before seeing your later posts, OP. Pete is sounding less of a perfect partner now, more of a teenager — loveable in many ways but lazy and feckless, and contented to live off you for as long as you’ll support him. His gaming (addiction?) stops him even tidying his room. Can you really live with that?

You mentioned your previous BFs were parasites, and I sympathise because I’ve been there too. Is Pete just a more likeable version? Do have some serious discussions with him.

Chikapu · 20/07/2021 17:45

I was originally picturing Pete chopping wood shirtless, barefoot, the top button of his jeans undone, his tanned skin glistening in the sun. Now I'm picturing him sitting in his pants in a darkened room shouting for the Horde at random intervals. My disappointment is palpable.

AlternativePerspective · 20/07/2021 17:45

@ thinkingaboutLangCleg well, OP is having to make up some less desirable traits about Pete because she’s not getting the answers here that she wants.

The reader needs to fall out of love with the husband so that they accept and embrace the woman falling in love with the leading man…

Miniestelle · 20/07/2021 17:46

@Nancydrawn @Westchesterarms
Totally agree. I was picturing John Cena in a lumberjack shirt.

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 17:48

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

Ah - I posted before seeing your later posts, OP. Pete is sounding less of a perfect partner now, more of a teenager — loveable in many ways but lazy and feckless, and contented to live off you for as long as you’ll support him. His gaming (addiction?) stops him even tidying his room. Can you really live with that?

You mentioned your previous BFs were parasites, and I sympathise because I’ve been there too. Is Pete just a more likeable version? Do have some serious discussions with him.

Pete's not just a more likeable person. He is my favourite person in the whole world, apart from this laziness. He looks after me really well, but in other aspects of life just can't be bothered with things. And yes, we are talking about it.

This might all sound like dripfeeding, but I am working this out as I go along. This is why I posted on here. I don't want to talk to anyone IRL about it, apart from the discussions I'm having with Pete.

Over our years together he has grown up a lot, and maybe this "fecklessness" (good word!) is just the last thing he needs to grow out of. I've asked him to think about whether he thinks it likely/possible, and let me know honestly.

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 17:49

@CatherineAragon

What about love? I think you sound incredibly mercenary. Who do you actually love?
Only my own sorry ass, obvs 😂
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Teaandjam · 20/07/2021 17:49

Your poor husband.

crumbsinthejam · 20/07/2021 17:51

I was originally picturing Pete chopping wood shirtless, barefoot, the top button of his jeans undone, his tanned skin glistening in the sun. Now I'm picturing him sitting in his pants in a darkened room shouting for the Horde at random intervals. My disappointment is palpable

I'm just imagining Cartman in the WoW South Park episode, but with sporadic wood chopping.

Miniestelle · 20/07/2021 17:52

@Chikapu

I was originally picturing Pete chopping wood shirtless, barefoot, the top button of his jeans undone, his tanned skin glistening in the sun. Now I'm picturing him sitting in his pants in a darkened room shouting for the Horde at random intervals. My disappointment is palpable.
Grin me too. I'm gutted about Pete. Right let down. Then after the wood chopping he would rustle up a delicious gourmet but healthy meal for OP from bits he had foraged and bought in the local market. The sound of Verdi playing in the background.
cabingirl · 20/07/2021 17:52

One minor point - John's kids might like you as his fun friend but becoming their step-mother is an entirely different thing even with adult kids. Plus you said you think you getting together with John might help to 'heal the pain' of their parents splitting up? Highly unlikely that they'd see their Dad's replacement for their Mum as healing!

Mydogmylife · 20/07/2021 17:53

@KormasABitch

Only my own sorry ass

Many a true word

Greenmarmalade · 20/07/2021 17:54

But you married Pete knowing he was like this?

Maybe in 10 years he’ll care more about some of the age-appropriate stuff you do?

HowManyToes · 20/07/2021 17:55

@OhtheVulgarity

So Pete has gone from a kind and caring 'lovely husband', who never bores you, does all the cleaning, cooking and firewood chopping, and shares your taste in everything, to a cocklodging elderly-teenage gaming addict hoarder who has allowed you to pay for people to renovate your house, while he lounges about accumulating crap?

Can John undergo a similar character swap? Maybe the 'golden man' could turn into a pervy football hooligan who's so financially careful he never pays for dinner and so houseproud he makes you wear those disposable plastic crime scene shoes if you go to his house?

Convenient, isn’t it? 🙄
Miniestelle · 20/07/2021 17:58

How did you meet Pete OP? Have you lived together in other countries before?

AlternativePerspective · 20/07/2021 17:59

So if there’s a generation between the OP and this Pete then either she is of retirement age, or they haven’t actually been together for “years” as she claims.

If he is say 25/30 years younger than her then they can’t realistically have been together for more than 5 years without it all having been a bit perverse really.

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 18:03

I am almost retirement age.

I miscalculated "generation" -- didn't realise it counted as 25 years!

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 18:05

I've actually just realised DM might pick up on this.

Sorry to cut the entertainment, but that particular prospect is terrifying so I'm going to pull the plug on this thread shortly. I never expected it to attract more than half a dozen answers!

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speakout · 20/07/2021 18:06

I think I may know these men.

Pete

speakout · 20/07/2021 18:07

John

Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?
Whatkindofdaughter · 20/07/2021 18:07

The mistake you are making in all of this is that you think you have the choice of two men.

So you are weighing up the pros and cons of P and J.

But apart from a long history with one of them you have no idea if he would really suit you if you lived with him. Or that he even fancies you.

I have the feeling that you married P as he was younger, a bit bohemian, you were flattered by the age gap, and it was all a bit exciting, moving from country to country as well.

A generation to me is at least 15 years (the age at which someone could become a parent) so you are pushing 60-65 and he's what? Late 40s?

And the novelty of a caring man who doesn't pull his weight financially is taking its toll.

Because on the other side of the fence is John who seems to tick all the boxes.

Look, if John hadn't turned up would you have been happy to spend the next 30 years with your husband?

Put Pete out of your mind and focus on that.

You have no idea if John is waiting in the wings for you to 'free ' yourself. It may be a dead duck.

If you are unhappy with Pete, leave him.
Forget the John option as it's just a fantasy.

If you divorce Pete and John comes running after you, make a judgement then. But not until.

StarryStarrySocks · 20/07/2021 18:07

@speakout

I think I may know these men.

Pete

😂😂😂
Whatkindofdaughter · 20/07/2021 18:08

@KormasABitch

I've actually just realised DM might pick up on this.

Sorry to cut the entertainment, but that particular prospect is terrifying so I'm going to pull the plug on this thread shortly. I never expected it to attract more than half a dozen answers!

Oooh- read my post first!
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