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Lovely husband versus different life with friend – what to do?

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 13:33

Apologies for the long post, I will try not to dripfeed.

I have a lovely husband, let’s call him Pete. We’ve been together almost a decade. He’s devoted to me, endlessly kind; nothing is too much trouble. A few years ago, we moved to a country where, unfortunately, he can’t get work (I’m OK as I work online). We’re planning to move elsewhere. In the meantime, he does all the shopping and cooking, chops wood for the fire, etc. We get on brilliantly and have none of the irritations I associate even with close friendships. We have the same tastes in music, films etc and often enjoy lovely weekends away doing things together like hiking or cycling. We never get bored with each other’s company.

Pete’s quite a bit younger than me, which hasn’t worried us over the years because as far as we’re concerned, being incredibly compatible is so lucky that it outweighs everything. However, one snag is our difference in life experience. He’s used to renting a place, and I’m not sure he’ll ever be what I’d call a responsible home owner. General maintenance etc doesn’t seem to occur to him, and I don’t want to be a nag, but find the overall neglect depressing when I’m so busy. He covers the basics, but anything else is a bit like pushing water uphill.

None of this might have mattered had it not been for life throwing me a curve ball.

My oldest friend, “John” (we’ve known each other 20-odd years), got divorced a couple of years ago. I helped him through the emotional process. We’ve always been close (despite him living in another country), but I suppose that brought us a bit closer for a while. I never thought much of it when he left his wife, but over the past couple of years we have exchanged friendly (not flirtatious!) messages and sometimes I find myself pining for the kind of life I could have with him. Over the years, we’ve had some great adventures together (when married to other people, so we never acknowledged or acted on the chemistry that was there), we have a good laugh, we understand each other well, and we have the same values. Pete, for example, can’t be bothered with family and I wish he made more effort to know my parents, who won’t be around for much longer; whereas I know John would connect well.

I am approaching retirement age and financial security has become more important to me than it once was. I hate to admit it, but combining forces with someone who has worked as hard as me is also appealing.

This is all churning round and round in my head, and I feel ridiculous. I don’t want to discuss it with anyone IRL, but would appreciate any input here. I hate feeling even a smidgen of disloyalty to Pete, because I adore him. It feels as though my priorities in life might be shifting somewhat, but maybe I’m just doing that “grass greener” thing and should just STFU.

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Westchesterarms · 20/07/2021 19:10

If it's so hot there, why is Pete chopping so much firewood?

StartingAgain33 · 20/07/2021 19:11

Team Pete. I gave up a Pete for a John and it was a massive mistake. John is still my friend, even, and there is still chemistry and 'what if', even, but the reality of us together was very unsuited despite years of us both feeling we'd be great together (I even get the same feeling now). In the meantime Pete has gone on to marry someone else and I still pine for our relationship, which was the best thing that ever happened to me. I was just too young and immature to know it at the time.

HaveringWavering · 20/07/2021 19:12

@VodselForDinner is that you Dawny? Grin

ShagMeRiggins · 20/07/2021 19:13

Well, this has given me lots to think about.

No answers for you, OP.

MichelleScarn · 20/07/2021 19:16

[quote HaveringWavering]@VodselForDinner is that you Dawny? Grin[/quote]
Oh my Christ it must be!!

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 19:16

@MiddleParking and @dreamsofacres, Yes, I know 🤪 I'm absolutely mortified to find myself posting this thread. I know DM won't give a toss, I'm just paranoid as I'm a very private person.

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IRanSoFarAway1 · 20/07/2021 19:16

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 19:18

@StartingAgain33

Team Pete. I gave up a Pete for a John and it was a massive mistake. John is still my friend, even, and there is still chemistry and 'what if', even, but the reality of us together was very unsuited despite years of us both feeling we'd be great together (I even get the same feeling now). In the meantime Pete has gone on to marry someone else and I still pine for our relationship, which was the best thing that ever happened to me. I was just too young and immature to know it at the time.
This is v helpful, thank you @StartingAgain33.

Pete is... hard to beat! I just wish he didn't push his luck so much sometimes. I get that he can't be arsed with lots of things in life, though, and the main thing is that he is totally and completely arsed with me.

But...!

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 19:19

@IRanSoFarAway1

OP "Except that Pete's my closest friend in the world, if we're talking about friendship. John is just the closest friend I have outside our marriage."

two friends finer than gold?

the grass doesn't get greener, stay right there!! Can I borrow one of your friends please? I mean just as a friend!

🤣🤣🤣

Honestly, I promise you, they are both golden.

I do realise how lucky I am with Pete. I've never underestimated that. I think I'm just getting... old, faster than he is, with all that goes with it. 🤨

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MarianneUnfaithful · 20/07/2021 19:26

Hmmmm.

How will things change once Pete is working? Will there be enough money to pay for the maintenance jobs that he currently neglects? Will you feel less exasperated with him?

I am concerned about what will happen when you actually retire. I guess you have been building a pension? Has he? As he is younger than you, and a bit feckless, will he be prepared to carry on working, support you as you are now supports him, and be happy to do that while you… do what? Retirement WITH Pete sounds great. But how many years will you be going off hiking in the week while he works? Or will you take over the shopping and cooking etc as he does now?

John sounds great but I think the difference in literary and cultural appreciation might become apparent once the horniness factor has lost its novelty, and as you retire you might become very resentful of his wandering eye.

How is sex with Pete, by the way?

Comedycook · 20/07/2021 19:30

Maybe the answer is neither

Pete appears to be a manchild who I reckon is secretly happy he doesn't work as he can spend all his time gaming interspersed with a bit of wood chopping so he adds some value to the relationship

John sounds a bit of a rogue who basically just likes women and football.

onceivepostedidontcomeback · 20/07/2021 19:32

I feel sorry for Pete. If it's not working for you then end it but not for someone else, perhaps time to be just you?

Miniestelle · 20/07/2021 19:38

Give Pete a chance.

Miniestelle · 20/07/2021 19:39

You sound delightfully eccentric and lovely by the way.

Alcemeg · 20/07/2021 19:41

@Miniestelle

You sound delightfully eccentric and lovely by the way.
I'm glad someone likes me!! GinFlowersWineCakeBrew
3luckystars · 20/07/2021 19:42

Pete just needs a job!

Comtedemontecristo · 20/07/2021 19:47

It's really simple. If you truly loved Pete you would not consider taking up with John.

Sounds a bit like you are trying to find fault with Pete to justify going to John.

What if there was no John? The answer to that tells you what you need to know.

If you decide to stay with Pete I'd advise you to end your friendship with John because you see him as more than a friend, and his being in your life will ruin your future with Pete.

Alcemeg · 20/07/2021 19:58

@Comtedemontecristo

It's really simple. If you truly loved Pete you would not consider taking up with John.

Sounds a bit like you are trying to find fault with Pete to justify going to John.

What if there was no John? The answer to that tells you what you need to know.

If you decide to stay with Pete I'd advise you to end your friendship with John because you see him as more than a friend, and his being in your life will ruin your future with Pete.

This is exactly the advice I'd be giving to some random nutter on the internet.

If no John existed, I wouldn't hesitate to spend the rest of eternity with Pete, despite the defects noted. He's amazing.

But there is a John. And he has been single for 2 years. And I am just beginning to notice.

Comparisons are odious and I hate myself for this.

But...!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll try and explain a bit more later.

MargotEmin · 20/07/2021 20:01

How would you feel if Pete walked out of your life OP? I kind of feel like that's your answer - if the idea devastates you then you have something work fighting for, if you'd just think 'result! I can crack on with horny football dude now!!' then you really do owe it to Pete to end this relationship

Charley50 · 20/07/2021 20:05

@Miniestelle

Give Pete a chance.
😂😂
Cowbells · 20/07/2021 20:07

@Bryonyshcmyony

What job does he do thst there is no work in a particular country? Is he a volcanologist or something?!
He's a sea fisherman and they live in landlocked Hungary.
Cowbells · 20/07/2021 20:17

Move in with John and enjoy decades of him saying, 'Phwoar wouldn't mind a bit of that skirt' at women passing by while you put on another CD of Genesis Greatest Hits - the Phil Collins years, for him. Certainly rocks my boat.

StartingAgain33 · 20/07/2021 20:22

My Pete was a bit lazy at times and lacked ambition I thought. He's turned out fine tho, he was always going to, I was just impatient. Also I'd much prefer a bit lazy to a bit of a dick. John sounds like a bit of a dick if you think he is trying to lure you away from Pete.

KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 20:52

Oh Lordy! I didn't expect so many replies. Thank you all, even those who think I am the Bitch from Hell.

I've spoken to MN about deleting the thread and have agreed to make this a 30-day thread, so it will be deleted after that time. Hopefully Daily Mail are more interested in posh neighbour disputes and not the navel-gazing nonsense of weirdos that no one can relate to.

I will therefore do my best to answer things, as I have a bit of time this evening (Pete playing WOW!!!!! God love him) X

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KormasABitch · 20/07/2021 20:53

@Chikapu

Always choose the man in cabled knitwear.
LOL (and the photos later)!!!!! I wish they would make it so easy.
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