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Male friend pushing for relationship

115 replies

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 10:30

N/C for this. I’ve been separated from my exh for around 5 years now, quite wary of starting a new relationship after a disastrous marriage. I have a male friend who I have a nice connection with, and recently he’s asked if I’d be interested in something more. I said I really don’t want to lead him on and I’m not convinced I’m cut out for relationships, and I still have issues with my ex to sort through before I consider another relationship.

For some reason over the past month or so he’s gone from no pressure/respecting my boundaries to sending me random flowers and gifts. His messages have also become very full on, lots of telling me how amazing I am and everything he says he clarifies it with ‘you can trust me..’ like he thinks I haven’t heard that before! He seems to be under the impression that because my ex turned out to be abusive that he must’ve started out that way, and that he probably never said nice things to me. He was surprised when I said my relationship with my exh started out lovely, he was loving and attentive and gave me no reason not to trust him. Things went awry when I was pregnant with our DD, a cycle of nice/nasty behaviour, and a couple of random flings with work colleagues when he worked away - the second of which became serious and he left me for her.

Anyway, like most people I’ve heard all this ‘trust me I’d never hurt you’ stuff before, so I’ve been trying to gently explain that I can’t just automatically trust him, but he seems to think I can. And him saying things like ‘when I say this I mean it, unlike your exh..’ it feels cringey and instead of making me want to consider exploring a relationship with him it’s actually starting to give me the ick.

Last night his messages were so over the top I was close to blocking him. You must trust me, I’m one of the good guys, I’m gonna book a hotel (he lives about 2 hours away) and spend a few days with you and prove what kind of person I am. And I just felt suffocated and railroaded into agreeing to him coming for a visit when in reality he knows I’m on my own with DC and I’m lucky if I get a child free afternoon/evening for a coffee or a meal, I certainly can’t entertain him for a few days! I’d be open to talking about and arranging a day that suits both of us, but I refuse to feel pressured into it being a date/a few days. But that’s not good enough, he’s intent on steaming ahead because I ‘should be over it by now..’

So I finally got upset with the whole thing and told him that everything he’s saying I’ve heard before, that he’s being way too pushy with wanting to come for a few days visit, and that he’s getting ahead of himself in general because I’ve always been very clear in saying I still have trust issues to work through and don’t feel like a relationship is the best idea. Also he doesn’t get to tell me when I should be ‘over it’!

Now he’s in a massive huff. He’s shocked and stunned and surprised by what I said. Why?? I once again reminded him I’ve always been up front about not wanting to start a relationship and that he knows I’m still working through what went on in my marriage. We’re not even divorced yet, but that’s a whole other thread.

I’d felt really comfortable talking to this guy, he’s been a good friend, but now I feel like he’s just been getting me to open up so he could slowly reel me in in the hopes he could change my mind, and I don’t like how that feels. I tried to speak to him on a neutral topic this morning and he ignored me. Then he's just messaged saying he’s still upset with me. I suggested we talk it through but he refused. I understand he didn’t like what I said but it was all just getting too much. Somehow he’s managed to make it all about him and I’ve found myself apologising for expressing my feelings.

It took me a long time to fix my boundaries, I don’t feel like compromising them now just to please him. I’m left wondering do I even try and salvage this friendship?

Advice/input welcome!

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Sportysporty · 17/07/2021 10:36

Walk away do the Freedom programme or similar

MrsBertBibby · 17/07/2021 10:36

All the red flags. All of them.

Trust your gut. A friend doesn't make you feel this way.

Chocolateteabag · 17/07/2021 10:37

Trust your "ick" instinct - if he was right for you, you would be feeling all the flutters right now

Instead you've posted on here

So follow what your gut is obviously saying and steer clear

LadyInParis · 17/07/2021 10:38

No! Ditch. He isn’t good for you- look at what anguish he’s putting you through already! And he’s supposed to be being a supportive friend! He’s trying to push your boundaries. Are you ready yet to have them tested so soon? Why would you want to risk it? It doesn’t sound like he brings anything good to your life anymore. He was nice to reel you in. Now he’s making you miserable by pushing your boundaries and then making you “scared to lose him” by being “upset with you” so that you give in and forget your boundaries. This isn’t a good man, friend or potential date. Your instincts are absolutely spot on. Ditch him completely now. He has proven himself capable of being EXACTLY like your ex. Good guys don’t need to say they are good guys- and they don’t need to compare themselves to exes to “prove” themselves. It shows in their actions. Look at his actions! Ditch him, congratulate yourself on your boundaries, and be kind to yourself. It’s still early days. Flowers

Mary1Mary · 17/07/2021 10:39

Just block him. Pushy bastard.

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 10:39

Thanks, I needed to know that it's not just me projecting because of past experiences.

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DisplayPurposesOnly · 17/07/2021 10:39

Tell him to fuck off, and block him.

Who the hell does he think he is?!

He is NOT a friend. And with that behaviour i wouldnt even consider being friendly.

Notaroadrunner · 17/07/2021 10:40

Don't even bother talking it through. He's abusing your vulnerability right now and harassing you for something you are not willing to give. You should block him and leave him in your past along with your ex. You won't get back to being just friends after this so you're best off without him.

Theunamedcat · 17/07/2021 10:40

Jeeze block him you can't trust him at all deliberately tries to push at your boundaries trying to force/coerce you into a relationship YOU DONT WANT

Dillydollydingdong · 17/07/2021 10:40

Head for the hills. He's being controlling already and you aren't even in a relationship with him!

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 10:41

Pretty much what I thought tbh. I'm very proud of my boundaries after exh shot them to shit.

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SoundBar · 17/07/2021 10:44

He's not a friend. Block and delete.

Natty13 · 17/07/2021 10:47

I think it's pretty impressive how you've reccognised him railroading and loveboming you and kept your boundaries. It's easy to see if from the outside but not when you're in it and have experience of past abuse.

Listen to your gut, sti k to your boundaries. Any man who actually meant any of what he said would show you he meant it all with actions. Not actions of flowers and hotel visits but listening to you, what you need and want including if that means backing off. He wants you to trust him? How can you trust him when he is already refusing to back off when you ask him to?

At this time before a potential relationship people are meant to be on their best behaviour. How's he going to behave in a relationship if he's already this suffocating now?

Pinknoise · 17/07/2021 10:48

Don’t even be a friend any more.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 17/07/2021 10:49

Well done for recognising it OP, now stand firm!

Brown76 · 17/07/2021 10:50

OP listen to the ick.

Wavypurple · 17/07/2021 10:51

Creepy male entitlement. He thinks that because he’s your ‘friend’ and is showering you with gifts that he automatically deserves to have a sexual/romantic relationship with you.

I’d never ever go anywhere near a man that describes himself as a ‘nice guy’ either.

He’s also not your friend anymore.

Takenoprisoner · 17/07/2021 10:51

If he pushes again, say you don't fancy him. He can hardly argue with that can he?

Or maybe he can. Just block.

PicsInRed · 17/07/2021 10:51

He's already subjecting you to coercive control and you haven't even agreed to a relationship yet! So he isn't better than your ex, or the same, or even as bad as your ex - he's very likely already much worse. Imagine what this one would be like if you got pregnant and he thought you were now stuck? Nightmare.

OTOH, wasn't that nice if him to give you the heads up so early that you could avoid him forever? Grin

You mention that he's a friend, I doubt that was ever true on his side, he reminds me of this guy - but with domestic abuse.

xkcd.com/513/

I wouldn't be friends with him anymore, and cut him off completely as he is not a safe man to be friends with, or even acquaintances. He was never a friend, he was simply masking his abusive tendencies and waiting for an "in", a moment you were (as he perceived it) weak enough, and for that, he should be out.

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 10:53

Thanks all. I've done a lot of work on myself after exh and I'm not about to let someone trash it.

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heyday · 17/07/2021 10:54

He thinks if he keeps trying then you will relent and have sex with him. There is nothing more to discuss. He wants either a full on relationship or just sex...neither of which you want at the moment. It was good whilst it lasted but it is now time to move on. Don't answer any more texts or try to start a conversation...just let it die otherwise this has the potential to turn very ugly.

Snowfalling · 17/07/2021 11:02

So glad you have seen through this man.

He's going to 'prove what kind of person he is', will he? He already has done that. The kind that don't take no for an answer.

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 11:16

Yeah I'm getting the impression he thought he'd have worn me down by now. Nope!

Thanks all Smile

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/07/2021 11:24

All credit to you for not minimising the red flags and alarm bells. This man sounds like another version of your abusive ex and this person has not at all respected your very reasonable and correct boundaries. Block him on all channels, he was and is no friend to you. Do not respond at all to any further messages or acknowledge any apology flowers/gifts.

If you have never enrolled onto the Freedom Programme this is something I would suggest you further look at and complete.

Do read this article as well:-
drjoecarver.com/clients/49355/File/IdentifyingLosers.html

NonsensicalHair · 17/07/2021 12:46

Block him on everything. He's being abusive and ignoring your boundaries. What a bastard. If you had to send one last message, tell him he's started being abusive even earlier than your abusive ex!!