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Male friend pushing for relationship

115 replies

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 10:30

N/C for this. I’ve been separated from my exh for around 5 years now, quite wary of starting a new relationship after a disastrous marriage. I have a male friend who I have a nice connection with, and recently he’s asked if I’d be interested in something more. I said I really don’t want to lead him on and I’m not convinced I’m cut out for relationships, and I still have issues with my ex to sort through before I consider another relationship.

For some reason over the past month or so he’s gone from no pressure/respecting my boundaries to sending me random flowers and gifts. His messages have also become very full on, lots of telling me how amazing I am and everything he says he clarifies it with ‘you can trust me..’ like he thinks I haven’t heard that before! He seems to be under the impression that because my ex turned out to be abusive that he must’ve started out that way, and that he probably never said nice things to me. He was surprised when I said my relationship with my exh started out lovely, he was loving and attentive and gave me no reason not to trust him. Things went awry when I was pregnant with our DD, a cycle of nice/nasty behaviour, and a couple of random flings with work colleagues when he worked away - the second of which became serious and he left me for her.

Anyway, like most people I’ve heard all this ‘trust me I’d never hurt you’ stuff before, so I’ve been trying to gently explain that I can’t just automatically trust him, but he seems to think I can. And him saying things like ‘when I say this I mean it, unlike your exh..’ it feels cringey and instead of making me want to consider exploring a relationship with him it’s actually starting to give me the ick.

Last night his messages were so over the top I was close to blocking him. You must trust me, I’m one of the good guys, I’m gonna book a hotel (he lives about 2 hours away) and spend a few days with you and prove what kind of person I am. And I just felt suffocated and railroaded into agreeing to him coming for a visit when in reality he knows I’m on my own with DC and I’m lucky if I get a child free afternoon/evening for a coffee or a meal, I certainly can’t entertain him for a few days! I’d be open to talking about and arranging a day that suits both of us, but I refuse to feel pressured into it being a date/a few days. But that’s not good enough, he’s intent on steaming ahead because I ‘should be over it by now..’

So I finally got upset with the whole thing and told him that everything he’s saying I’ve heard before, that he’s being way too pushy with wanting to come for a few days visit, and that he’s getting ahead of himself in general because I’ve always been very clear in saying I still have trust issues to work through and don’t feel like a relationship is the best idea. Also he doesn’t get to tell me when I should be ‘over it’!

Now he’s in a massive huff. He’s shocked and stunned and surprised by what I said. Why?? I once again reminded him I’ve always been up front about not wanting to start a relationship and that he knows I’m still working through what went on in my marriage. We’re not even divorced yet, but that’s a whole other thread.

I’d felt really comfortable talking to this guy, he’s been a good friend, but now I feel like he’s just been getting me to open up so he could slowly reel me in in the hopes he could change my mind, and I don’t like how that feels. I tried to speak to him on a neutral topic this morning and he ignored me. Then he's just messaged saying he’s still upset with me. I suggested we talk it through but he refused. I understand he didn’t like what I said but it was all just getting too much. Somehow he’s managed to make it all about him and I’ve found myself apologising for expressing my feelings.

It took me a long time to fix my boundaries, I don’t feel like compromising them now just to please him. I’m left wondering do I even try and salvage this friendship?

Advice/input welcome!

OP posts:
IdblowJonSnow · 17/07/2021 12:55

This guy is a total creep trying to bloody gaslight you.

He is NOT your friend OP.

Tell him you don't want to hear from him at all and block him.

WithLargeTableMouse · 17/07/2021 13:01

Gosh reading through that made me feel really irritated by him. Seriously, just tell him to fuck right off and then block him. Pushy bastard, how dare he try and tell you what you should or shouldn’t be over yet and how dare he try and ignore your boundaries? 🤬

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 13:14

Thanks all, it really was the pushing of my boundaries that pissed me off the most, especially as he's aware of how shit things were with my exh.

I'm actually really glad he's revealed himself before I perhaps did get involved, saved me a lot of heartache down the line!

I had to hone my grey rock skills with my exh as he's still difficult to deal with even now, so I'll just use the same tactic on this guy. Completely disengage, no explanation, blocked.

I bloody love MN, everyone was so supportive when I had my thread years ago about my exh, helping me identify that I was in an abusive relationship and not actually going crazy as my exh would have me believe. You lot are fab.

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Alcemeg · 17/07/2021 13:24

@JackFairy

Pretty much what I thought tbh. I'm very proud of my boundaries after exh shot them to shit.
Well spotted, OP. He sounds like a creep.
TheSunShinesBrighter · 17/07/2021 13:33

Ugh. OP. Don’t contact him again. You have nothing to ‘talk through’.

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 17/07/2021 13:37

Completely disengage, no explanation, blocked. StarStarStar

Amazing woman Flowers

Loudestcat14 · 17/07/2021 13:37

The fact he's trying to emotionally blackmail you by going into a massive huff now – presumably in the hope you'll back down and see the error of your ways Hmm – speaks volumes as much as his love bombing does. First time he can't get his own way and his reaction is to throw his toys out of the pram. I wouldn't even bother with a friendship now.

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 13:42

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Completely disengage, no explanation, blocked. StarStarStar

Amazing woman Flowers

Thank you so much Smile
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CrouchEndTiger12 · 17/07/2021 13:44

Nothing says harass me like a big fat no!

I'd mute him to start with on everything. Stop replying and if he persists just block him.

Don't delete any of his messages in case he persists and you need to take it further.

HollowTalk · 17/07/2021 13:51

This one is a clone of your ex, isn't he? Don't even think about meeting up with him. I would write a couple of lines explaining that he's disrespecting your boundaries and then I'd block him. Don't be surprised if he turns up where he can, wheedling and crying and denying and blaming. He's got a script, the same one your ex had.

Mansplainee · 17/07/2021 13:58

Completely disengage, no explanation, blocked

Yes OP!!

What an entitled arsehole he is. Glad you’re ditching him. Well done.

Sn0tnose · 17/07/2021 14:00

It sounds like he’s one of those nice men who believe that they put ‘niceness coins’ into a woman and sex comes out. And if the woman declines, they react with anger. Clearly the woman only likes bastards who abuse her and how dare she turn him down when he was willing to be nice to her, like a man being nice to their partner is something to aspire to, and not an absolute basic!

This man is not your friend and I’d suggest that he has never been your friend but, rather, was waiting for what he saw as his chance. I also think that you’ve not heard the end of him. Once he realises that his sulking is not going to make you change your mind, he’s going to get angry and abusive. Keep your messages from him.

And, most importantly, don’t doubt yourself or allow some random arsehole to make you feel guilty for not wanting to have sex with them. You’re a strong intelligent woman who saw the warning signs with him. You can do this.

TrueRefuge · 17/07/2021 14:00

Well done on your instincts! This guy sounds awful, definitely no friend. I felt stifled just reading about "a few days in a hotel, I'll show you who I am"..... Ugh! I have the ick and I don't even know him!

Well done you. I'd give him what for so he's under no illusion why he's being blocked.

Onwards! Smile

TedMullins · 17/07/2021 14:00

Well done! You’ve done totally the right thing. Keep that creepy fucker blocked

TiredButDancing · 17/07/2021 14:05

Agree with all the PP. well done.

What never ceases to amaze me the sense of entitlement men have - you don't want to date him so how does he think you're going to change your mind if he stalks you?! Argh.

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 14:06

Thanks all. I think @Sn0tnose has hit the nail on the head tbh.

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billy1966 · 17/07/2021 14:07

@Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons

Completely disengage, no explanation, blocked. StarStarStar

Amazing woman Flowers

Well done you OP.

What a pushy creepy.

Sulking cos he didn't get what he wanted.

Ick, ick, ick.

Flowers
IsThePopeCatholic · 17/07/2021 14:07

He sounds like a manipulative smarmy shit. You need him like a hole in the head. Block and move on.

billy1966 · 17/07/2021 14:09

@Sn0tnose

It sounds like he’s one of those nice men who believe that they put ‘niceness coins’ into a woman and sex comes out. And if the woman declines, they react with anger. Clearly the woman only likes bastards who abuse her and how dare she turn him down when he was willing to be nice to her, like a man being nice to their partner is something to aspire to, and not an absolute basic!

This man is not your friend and I’d suggest that he has never been your friend but, rather, was waiting for what he saw as his chance. I also think that you’ve not heard the end of him. Once he realises that his sulking is not going to make you change your mind, he’s going to get angry and abusive. Keep your messages from him.

And, most importantly, don’t doubt yourself or allow some random arsehole to make you feel guilty for not wanting to have sex with them. You’re a strong intelligent woman who saw the warning signs with him. You can do this.

I completely agree, he was not a friend, just a snake loitering in the long grass, awaiting his chance.

Well spotted.

Aquamarine1029 · 17/07/2021 14:13

What an absolute creep. Honestly, he's scary and he holds every red flag possible. Block him right out of your life because he's no friend of yours.

DoAsYouWouldBeMumBy · 17/07/2021 14:15

A big nope from me. I would not want even to be friends with this guy. He sounds like an abusive twat, and you need to get him out of your life. No wonder you've got the ick!

TerraNovaTwo · 17/07/2021 14:17

I barely made it through the first sentence of your post before thinking "what a creep!" He's persistent and has made you feel alarmed and uncomfortable = stalker.

Block on everything. Avoid. Make zero contact. If you bump into this person, ignore them. Do not exchange any conversation, it will only send mixed messages and add to his delusions and make him think he stands a chance, even if you only say hi back.

If he continues to pursue you, this is illegal and you need to report him to the police for harassment and stalking. There is no length these weirdos won't go to.

www.gov.uk/report-stalker

JackFairy · 17/07/2021 14:19

I do feel that despite me keeping him firmly at arms length, he's created some kind of fantasy in his head where I'm just playing hard to get and he'll 'win' in the end.

He won't. He's blocked.

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Aquamarine1029 · 17/07/2021 14:21

Well done for blocking him. Does he live near you? If he shows up at your home, do not open the door to him.

DukeofEarlGrey · 17/07/2021 14:22

He sounds awful OP. Completely disrespectful and creepy. You’ve done the right thing to push him away and I agree with others that you should block him entirely.

Also, you sound as though you’ve made amazing progress since your ex - well done! Just remember that you don’t ever have to have a reason to say no to someone. He could be the nicest man alive, you could have no trust issues or battle scars whatsoever and be actively looking for a relationship... and ‘I don’t want to’ will still suffice.

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