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Male friend pushing for relationship

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JackFairy · 17/07/2021 10:30

N/C for this. I’ve been separated from my exh for around 5 years now, quite wary of starting a new relationship after a disastrous marriage. I have a male friend who I have a nice connection with, and recently he’s asked if I’d be interested in something more. I said I really don’t want to lead him on and I’m not convinced I’m cut out for relationships, and I still have issues with my ex to sort through before I consider another relationship.

For some reason over the past month or so he’s gone from no pressure/respecting my boundaries to sending me random flowers and gifts. His messages have also become very full on, lots of telling me how amazing I am and everything he says he clarifies it with ‘you can trust me..’ like he thinks I haven’t heard that before! He seems to be under the impression that because my ex turned out to be abusive that he must’ve started out that way, and that he probably never said nice things to me. He was surprised when I said my relationship with my exh started out lovely, he was loving and attentive and gave me no reason not to trust him. Things went awry when I was pregnant with our DD, a cycle of nice/nasty behaviour, and a couple of random flings with work colleagues when he worked away - the second of which became serious and he left me for her.

Anyway, like most people I’ve heard all this ‘trust me I’d never hurt you’ stuff before, so I’ve been trying to gently explain that I can’t just automatically trust him, but he seems to think I can. And him saying things like ‘when I say this I mean it, unlike your exh..’ it feels cringey and instead of making me want to consider exploring a relationship with him it’s actually starting to give me the ick.

Last night his messages were so over the top I was close to blocking him. You must trust me, I’m one of the good guys, I’m gonna book a hotel (he lives about 2 hours away) and spend a few days with you and prove what kind of person I am. And I just felt suffocated and railroaded into agreeing to him coming for a visit when in reality he knows I’m on my own with DC and I’m lucky if I get a child free afternoon/evening for a coffee or a meal, I certainly can’t entertain him for a few days! I’d be open to talking about and arranging a day that suits both of us, but I refuse to feel pressured into it being a date/a few days. But that’s not good enough, he’s intent on steaming ahead because I ‘should be over it by now..’

So I finally got upset with the whole thing and told him that everything he’s saying I’ve heard before, that he’s being way too pushy with wanting to come for a few days visit, and that he’s getting ahead of himself in general because I’ve always been very clear in saying I still have trust issues to work through and don’t feel like a relationship is the best idea. Also he doesn’t get to tell me when I should be ‘over it’!

Now he’s in a massive huff. He’s shocked and stunned and surprised by what I said. Why?? I once again reminded him I’ve always been up front about not wanting to start a relationship and that he knows I’m still working through what went on in my marriage. We’re not even divorced yet, but that’s a whole other thread.

I’d felt really comfortable talking to this guy, he’s been a good friend, but now I feel like he’s just been getting me to open up so he could slowly reel me in in the hopes he could change my mind, and I don’t like how that feels. I tried to speak to him on a neutral topic this morning and he ignored me. Then he's just messaged saying he’s still upset with me. I suggested we talk it through but he refused. I understand he didn’t like what I said but it was all just getting too much. Somehow he’s managed to make it all about him and I’ve found myself apologising for expressing my feelings.

It took me a long time to fix my boundaries, I don’t feel like compromising them now just to please him. I’m left wondering do I even try and salvage this friendship?

Advice/input welcome!

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2bazookas · 26/07/2021 12:27

Good for you. You're doing exactly the right thing.

Such selfish demanding behaviour indicates a man who's going to be a lousy lover anyway. You're not missing anything.

JackFairy · 26/07/2021 12:31

I think I was trying to be kind in as much as it's not just him I don't want to be in a relationship with, but actually after all this it's clear that even if I was interested in being with someone it still wouldn't be him!

Anyway I sent the email, very much to the point and blocked him on my work account now. Please just let that be the end of it.

Thanks everyone for your support Thanks

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Opentooffers · 26/07/2021 12:34

You shouldn't try to be friends with someone who fancies you, it's disappointing to find out that someone has only been your friend all along because they were grooming you for something more. At the first sign that a friend fancies you, the friendship should end right there, because if it's not reciprocated, you are giving false hope. It doesn't matter how many times you say you are not interested, some people will not let go of the chance that they can change your mind in time. I think that is what has happened here, he's waited years to change your mind and then had his hopes dashed. You've done well to end it now, but to avoid a repeat, don't try to salvage friendships with someone who wants more, it leads them on and stores up trouble.

Sparklfairy · 26/07/2021 12:37

@Opentooffers grooming is such a good word. You feel like it wasn't a friendship at all because they had an ulterior motive the whole time.

JackFairy · 26/07/2021 12:44

@Opentooffers that's a good point but up until Christmas he was in a relationship so there was no undercurrent of him fancying me up until about a month or so back. I did cut back on contact when he first started suggesting something more but he insisted he'd be happy to just remain friends, then all the lovebombing started shortly after and I've been trying to extricate myself ever since!

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JackFairy · 26/07/2021 13:00

Or he's been keeping me as a friend like a back up plan for if his relationship fell through?

I honestly don't want to start trying to figure him out too much. Maybe I was a bit naive. Lesson learned.

Thanks everyone for your input, it's a flipping minefield but I'm definitely getting better at spotting the signs I clearly missed when I met my exh!

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KormasABitch · 26/07/2021 13:33

Creepy as fuck. Thank goodness you saw what was happening! Good luck with final bud-nipping.

Noshowlomo · 26/07/2021 14:08

With every update I had more and more of an ICK feeling and then it just got scary. The entitlement is huge with this one. Who the f does he think he is. He wanted to be your knight in shining armour, the one who taught you that some men are great men, but instead he's just reinforced that alot of men are entitled creeps.
Good on you OP.

JackFairy · 26/07/2021 15:24

Thanks all!

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dramalessllama · 26/07/2021 17:44

As a random stranger who is late to the thread, I am so proud of you! I'm in a somewhat similar situation with my 'best friend from college who's always loved me' in that since my separation from my Narc exH, we've been hanging out a lot together - hikes, bike rides, etc. I see him as a brother and friend, but I know he wants more.

When I start to feel smothered, I back off from the friendship and have canceled planned activities as part of the backing off, and then he sulks. Something just hit me last night that I need to start fresh somewhere else, once my divorce is final (5 weeks!). So I made an offer on a house unseen in a neighboring state (I'm in the US). I haven't told anyone yet, because I need to follow my gut and not be swayed by other opinions from people who think they know what's best for me.

All this to say, you handled this situation so perfectly, and I'm in awe. Best of luck to you in everything!!

PandemicAtTheDisco · 26/07/2021 17:55

I had to deal with a long term male friend trying to become my new partner shortly after my partner died.

He first became very supportive but a bit controlling/protective of me. He started trying to take responsibility with stereotypically male stuff that I'd always done myself. I kept telling him to stop but he ignored me or said it was no trouble and just continued.

I see now that it was more a way of letting everyone know that I was 'his'. People started commenting on whether we were together - I thought they were being stupid and out of order as I'd not long lost my partner.

When he first made a move then I firmly told him he'd got the wrong idea. He still heard me saying 'eventually' rather than 'no, it will never happen'. I liked him as a friend but he stopped being that and wouldn't accept just friendship from me. He kept pushing for more and got more annoyed each time he was rebuffed. I wanted his friendship and was maybe stupid to think I'd ever really had it. I think now he always had ulterior motives.

As his friend, I needed to end the relationship/friendship completely rather than kid myself that we could just be friends because it was clear he couldn't accept that.

I regret not ending the friendship sooner and letting him step all over my boundaries. I regret the weak, nice manner I kept up when he was making me uncomfortable in my home and I just wanted to tell him to go home, stop visiting so often, stop phoning all the time, stop buying me things, stop staying so long etc.

I realise now he must have picked up but ignored my polite hints and just continued to do what he wanted.

NeedNewKnees · 26/07/2021 18:03

Good for you, enforcing your boundaries, OP! That’s fantastic.

Pandemic, I am sorry that predatory asshat hounded you like that. Good on you for getting rid.

sudpralad · 26/07/2021 18:13

@DisplayPurposesOnly

Tell him to fuck off, and block him.

Who the hell does he think he is?!

He is NOT a friend. And with that behaviour i wouldnt even consider being friendly.

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NowEvenBetter · 26/07/2021 18:24

Tell him any further contact in any form will be passed on to the police. Obviously. It’s worrying that your OP was pondering ‘salvaging this friendship’, that shows how skewed your perceptions and standards are, have you done any therapy or assertiveness work since leaving your previous abuser?

JackFairy · 26/07/2021 18:36

Thanks everyone!

Drama thank you so much, and all the very best with your move! You've got this 

Pandemic its a shame it came to that, why do they do that!!

@NowEvenBetter I didn't have any therapy, no, but I'm so much better at spotting the red flags these days! I think I just wanted to see if the friendship could be salvaged because I genuinely thought we'd been quite good friends. Clearly not the case.

Everyone has been so fab, I'm feeling very buoyant this evening. Fingers crossed he's gone for good now.

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