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I am so trapped

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 06:56

I want to leave DH but despite me being unhappy for 17 years my mum is pushing hard for me to stay because of the dc. And probably because she doesn’t want the shame of a divorced child.

She said I chose to have the dc, now it doesn’t matter if I’m happy or not. I’m really struggling. I wake in the morning feeling like I cannot breathe. My heart is racing. I’m not sleeping well, waking about 4am, and I’m not eating.
My mum keeps telling me how heartbroken the dc will be, that I will be poor, that I could lose them 50% of the time and they would hate that. That I will have no time nor money to do anything with them. That I will still be unhappy because my dc will be so unhappy.
Her answer? I wait another 13 years for dc2 to be 18. In 13 years I will be 50 and so worn down that I will have given up, if I make it that far which is debatable tbh.
We’d have to go and stay with my parents if I left DH so there’s no way of avoiding her. I hear what she’s saying and I suppose she is right. It is deeply selfish not to stay for the dc, who are happy, doing well at school and generally very settled.
I married DH partly because she wanted me to and I was young. Have I got to pay for that decision forever? It seems I have.
I cannot see a way forwards anymore. I just feel trapped. DH is slightly controlling and I am squashed, I am not who I was when we married. I was 20. He was 30. I feel I’ve changed so much and I feel this awful disconnect all the time. My mum says it’s because of covid but I felt it before that, although covid hasn’t helped.
DH isn’t a very involved father currently and never has been. All of the mental load falls on me and most of the practical stuff too. Currently he has them on his own one evening a week when I go out but only after I’ve got youngest dc to bed. Oldest dc is 11 and so not as demanding. He’s never willingly taken any of it on and he’s watched me struggle with things like the fact dc1 didn’t sleep through until he was 4 and he never once gave me a night off. It’s always ‘they settle better for you.’
He works hard, he has a good job, he does love me and the dc but I consistently feel like a thing on his checklist of what he needs for a ‘perfect’ life. I don’t feel like a person in my own right. He says the right things, for example I’ve taken a more demanding role at work with more hours and he did a lot of ‘ill support you whatever you want to do’ before I accepted. I started four months ago and in that four months he’s not practically helped me with anything. He’s not done a single school run, he’s not done anything in the house. I run my day around the children, working through lunch, rushing around, fetching them, coming back and doing another hour or so at work. Everything falls on me. I had a small crying breakdown about two months ago and he said he’d help me but nothing has changed although we now get take out or eat out once a week so I don’t have to cook.
I’m no longer attracted to him and so rarely have sex unless there’s no other option to. But it is rare. Two years and counting.
My mum says so what. If I left him I would be doing it all on my own anyway, plus the dc would be upset, plus I would be poor, she thinks it would all be worse and maybe she is right. I feel so trapped and it makes me feel like giving up. I just want to go to bed and never get back up again. I am already on antidepressants. I want to get back to a place where I feel like me again and I don’t know how to do that. I do know it hasn’t always been as awful as this with DH, I think since dc2 was born and I had PND it’s got much much worse. Mainly because he carried on totally as normal and I was barely functioning. Again he didn’t ever give me a lie in or get up at night when they were a baby. The PND hit me like a brick and I will admit since then I’ve never felt well, I’ve always felt a background level of anxiety. I can think of maybe two or three occasions since I had dc2 five years ago where I’ve not felt anxious. Unfortunately it arrived when she did, like an unwelcome additional child.

My mum thinks that’s why I don’t want to be with DH, that I’ve not recovered from the birth of dc2. I can’t imagine now ever being the person I was before I had her. I cannot imagine ever feeling optimistic or happy or even just less anxious. I get up in the mornings and wait to go back to bed. The best time of my life is when I am asleep. I just struggle through the days putting a brave face on it. I am incredibly lonely.

I love my dc so much. I don’t want to transfer this awful feeling to them. I worry that in breaking their family I will break them. I worry that my mum is right, that I am not capable of managing this. My mum never thinks I am capable of anything. When I went for this job she told me I wouldn’t cope, my children would suffer with me working more hours and I was putting my job in front of them. I spent four years as a sahp after dc2. I work my hours around them as best I can. I do everything I can to mitigate any cost to them - and yet DH just gets to do whatever he wants.

Sorry that was really long. I’m feeling desperate this morning.

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KirstenBlest · 15/07/2021 16:49

You are married. You will have rights to the house and some of his pension.

Find our what these are. See a family or divorce lawyer.

SarahBop · 15/07/2021 16:52

Aww OP, I want to send you a hug. I have been where you are; overthinking and questioning everything/myself and it's utterly exhausting.

I felt like a skivvy - unappreciated, unvalued....DH ended up being unfaithful and that was it - marriage over.
As awful as it sounds, I saw it as a get out clause - I knew I wasn't going to try and forgive instantly (as much as I was tempted to try, for the kids sake, to not break up their family unit) I needed space and time to work on myself and also I realised that I didn't break our family unit up - HE DID, by not staying faithful.
Admittedly if he hadn't cheated, I'd never have left, because I didn't see how one-sided our relationship was ...it's only now that I'm out of it, I'm like wow, when did my needs and wants become so unimportant compared to his?!

What I'm trying to say is, I totally understand why you feel so unappreciated. Your Husband sounds very selfish in terms of your needs/mental health.
Sit him down and have a serious conversation with him - explain how one-sided you are finding the housework, explain you need his help as you both live there. STOP talking to your mum, she sounds toxic and controlling rather than empathic/supportive.

Get yourself some counselling and read the book "How to do the work" by Nicole Lepera..it should help you to heal from your relationship with your mum too.

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 17:03

DH has just appeared from work to say how much he loves me.

This is where I struggle, I think what’s real? The fact I don’t feel loved or cared for or this? Maybe this is as good as it gets.

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Eddielzzard · 15/07/2021 17:04

You really need to see a good lawyer to understand what your options are. Your mum sounds toxic tbh, and your DH isn't much better. Perhaps they recognise this in each other.

Take care. Your body is trying to tell you to get out of this situation.

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 17:14

My understanding is I would get half of everything. I may get slightly more based on giving up my career when we had the dc and earning potential. If DH only has to support himself most of the time on his wages he will be MUCH richer than me.
I never see it as our money because I’ve never had access to any joint account so it’s very much his money.
I just want to be able to live comfortably, I may be able to take on a new role at work in September which would be slightly better paid.
Currently I think if he had to pay that amount of maintenance with my wages plus a UV top up I should have approx £3,200 a month.

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 17:15

UV top up 😂 get a tan.
UC top up.

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 17:16

£3200 less £1k rent for a three bed, less probably another grand or so in bills and food - I could probably get food right down because I don’t eat. The dc eat but they eat a lot of pasta and vegetables and things. I think I could cut the food bill back a lot.

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Sarahlou63 · 15/07/2021 17:22

I can see from your posts that you are starting to think, to plan, to see a different future; that position of knowledge and strength will help massively with your anxiety.

Set yourself and your children (and your husband) free.

KirstenBlest · 15/07/2021 17:25

@Cornfieldrainbows, you need to find out what your rights are and how much of the marital assets you will be entitled to. We can't advise.

bobby81 · 15/07/2021 17:44

I’ve been where you are OP and it’s soul destroying. I left him 3 and a half years ago and I haven’t looked back. DC have found it difficult at times but have generally been fine & have adapted. We are all so much happier. I have to say that my family were very supportive though and gave me the confidence to finally leave him. It is tough in the beginning and it seems like there is so much to sort out but you will get there. Do you have other support? I am financially much better off without him as well. Good luck x

Howshouldibehave · 15/07/2021 17:45

You can leave-you don’t need her approval to do so. Your plan can’t be to live at her house, though.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 15/07/2021 17:53

@Cornfieldrainbows

I’m just going to end up staying. I am paralysed by it all and sometimes I think i should just get on with it and accept this is my life. If I don’t spend much time with DH it’s not so bad. When he suggests doing anything together I get like a sinking feeling. I’m so anxious. I just want the anxious to abate. I don’t understand why it’s so much worse than it was a few years ago but it is.
Your children growing up witnessing this dynamic means they will think it's what a normal, healthy relationship looks like. Then you'll visit them as adults and see they've replicated it and are desperately unhappy like you are too. Can you live with that? I couldn't.
Hen2018 · 15/07/2021 18:04

Don’t talk to your mother about it any more.

Treat it as a project. You wouldn’t ask your mother (I presume!) how to fit new double glazing so in this case consult an expert too - a decent local lawyer.

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 18:25

bobby81 why did you leave?

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pointythings · 15/07/2021 18:44

£3200 a month is almost double what I had to live on, though I did have the house which is mortgage free. You will not be poor. You can absolutely do this.

Forstarters · 15/07/2021 18:53

As someone who’s been in an unhappy marriage - but where nothing awful was happening - believe me you’ll never feel happier when you’ve split. You’ll be free every day.

Don’t leave the family home - don’t ever do that without speaking to a solicitor as it can put you on the back foot. You’ll likely be able to stay in the house until the children are older if you can’t adequately house them otherwise (mesher order).

In short. Don’t panic, you will be happier, see a solicitor. Good luck!

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 18:56

I will have to pay rent from it but I’m hoping I’d still have about £1200 left after all the bills are out? Including food.

That seems doable. £300 a week free spending sounds a lot but I would need to save for stuff because i have no savings at all. So for car things, bigger expenses, just so I’ve got something behind me in case of an emergency. But if I cut my spending to £100 a week then I should be able to save some every month. Even if I were just able to save a couple of hundred pounds a month.

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Forstarters · 15/07/2021 18:57

Assuming you’re married as long as the house is a marital asset (ie not bought before you were married from his separate money) then you are entitled to 50% or more. Plus you will be entitled to a share of his pension accrued since you’ve been married.

However you need to apply for an order to stop him selling the house without your permission. This will be granted as you’re married. This stops him selling it and disappearing when you leave.

As before. This may sound confusing but it won’t with a good solicitor who will tell you what to do

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 18:57

I feel so guilty about DH and the dc.
Unbelievably guilty. I feel like I’m walking around to ruin their lives.

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 18:57

About to ruin their lives

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Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 18:57

It is helpful to hear of others who have been through similar experiences.

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Forstarters · 15/07/2021 18:58

Why are you needing to pay rent? You have a house. You will live there.

Cornfieldrainbows · 15/07/2021 18:58

I won’t be able to stay here because DH won’t leave. If I could stay here then it would be much easier but I have to bear in mind he won’t want to split. It’s a bit much to instigate it and then demand the house.

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Forstarters · 15/07/2021 18:59

You won’t ruin your children’s lives.
But right now you’re certainly ruining yours

Forstarters · 15/07/2021 19:00

It doesn’t work like that. If he is having the kids majority of the time he should perhaps stay there. If not the kids are always the priority. You’re not demanding the house, you’re housing your children.

Or perhaps you can sell it and buy a flat each?