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What’s for dinner sweetheart?

138 replies

Dehydratedcaterpillar · 09/07/2021 17:43

Argh.
Every. Single. Night.

I work until about 4ish and then I go and pick up the dc. I’m usually back by about 4.45 and then DH appears at 5pm, sets in for the evening on the sofa and says ‘what’s for dinner sweetheart?’
God. His job pays nearly ten times more than mine but I’m not convinced mine is any less stressful if I’m honest. However I also do all the running around in the morning, so by the time I start work at 9am I’ve been going for three hours already. DH - out of bed at 8.15am.
It’s the ‘what’s for dinner sweetheart?’ that may tip me over the edge though.

OP posts:
Sleepiebeauty · 09/07/2021 19:44

If you don’t like it, just change it. Very simple. You seem to like being a doormat. Money has got nothing to do with this. My husband also earns a lot more than me, he wouldn’t dream of behaving this way. He actually wants to make my life good.

Susannahmoody · 09/07/2021 19:44

DH does the same. But about lunch.

What for lunch??

Jump up kitchen door and a bite off latch

Grrrrrr

WizardOfAus · 09/07/2021 19:51

This post came from another parenting site and it applies to you.

(This post is specifically geared at women in heterosexual relationships.) Ok ladies, we need to talk.

Every few weeks there's a post that makes the admin team spend a day debating if we should say something or not. These posts are always on the same theme; husbands who are not pulling their weight.

Well, after just reading a post from this week were a whopping 4 HUNDRED of you commented in solidarity with the OP I've decided today is the day we say something.

Household chore inequity and child care inequality is a form of domestic abuse. It forces women to work themselves into exhaustion and illness, whilst men buy their free time with female exhaustion.

No one wants to see themselves as being in an abusive relationship. It means acknowledging that someone you love, someone you married or committed to, someone you chose to have children with is taking advantage of you and that hurts on so many levels.

it's heartbreaking to acknowledge, but acknowledge it we must.

If your husband or partner is capable of working at their job without being micromanaged and given extremely explicit instructions, then they are capable of contributing fairly at home without being given extremely explicit instructions and micromanaged. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they were capable of living independently without living in a rat-infested pigsty without any clean clothes and living off pizza, then they are capable of ensuring children are fed and clothed, groceries are done, and household chores are shared equally. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they claim they love you and yet your health comes secondary to their leisure, they're gaslighting you.

If they claim they can't possibly function and it would be unsafe for them to work with broken sleep, but it's totally fine for you to have to work, drive and do all the household chores and childcare on broken sleep, they're taking advantage of you.

If they say they are going to get up in the night and help but when the time comes the pretend to be asleep/complain, they're gaslighting you.

If they don't even actually try to settle the baby and had bub back almost immediately with "they just want you:", they're gaslighting you.

If your health, sanity, sleep, work, or self-esteem are suffering because you are the one doing everything, whilst they leverage your exhaustion into their free time, they're abusing you.
Like other forms of abuse, it will not get better on its own. It's not an accident.

So please ladies. Please stop laughing it off as "just men"

It's not just men. It's purposeful.

It might not be consciously purposeful, but it is still purposeful. They know they can get away with it.

one of you being on antidepressants because your husband won't help raise the children he fathered is one too many. 400+ of you being exhausted to the brink of PND and breakdowns is heartbreaking for us to watch.

You can't fix this by night weaning. Or sleep training. Or bedsharing, or chore charts, or even kicking hubby into the spare room. There are only two things that will fix this - therapy, or leaving.

I am sorry.

JacquelineCarlyle · 09/07/2021 19:58

I've not seen that before @WizardOfAus - such a great post and sadly very true. Great that you have shared it.

WildfirePonie · 09/07/2021 20:00

You'd be better off as a single parent. EOW free to lie in and only cooking for yourself and DC.

What is stopping you?

Dehydratedcaterpillar · 09/07/2021 20:02

DH often used to say he’d do a night feed / waking and then not budge and I’d just end up doing it.
Did a lot of ‘won’t settle for me’ - still does tbh!

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nimbuscloud · 09/07/2021 20:03

God he sounds unattractive
Will this be the rest of your life do you think?

category12 · 09/07/2021 20:03

Yes, yes, keep giving examples of how he treats you like a skivvy and how unfair it is.

What are you actually going to do about it?

HermioneKipper · 09/07/2021 20:07

Wtf?! What’s the point of him apart from his wage? Awful. Do you like spending time with him? I’d be seething with resentment.

I work half the hours my husband does and bring home half his wage but his does more than his fair share of childcare, feeds and baths them every night and does half the household chores.

I can’t believe you do both weekend days and all holidays. This is so unfair. We take turns on the breakfast hell at weekends and when we’re on holiday.

Huge hugs, he doesn’t deserve you. Leave the bastard

WildfirePonie · 09/07/2021 20:08

My DP does all the cooking and half of everything. We are a partnership. Even with DC2, he would stay up all night just so I could get a good nights sleep ready for the day. We even split weekends up, he will sleep in on both days as I am an early riser nowadays and then I will go and chill in bed, maybe have a little nap in the afternoon.

That is how a relationship should look like.

Frazzledd · 09/07/2021 20:10

@JacquelineCarlyle

I've not seen that before *@WizardOfAus* - such a great post and sadly very true. Great that you have shared it.
Agreed!
gibbertyofah · 09/07/2021 20:34

@Dehydratedcaterpillar

Ahh I’ve tried using words. The solution was he pays for take away one evening a week now.

That isn’t really much of a solution. Because he doesn’t do anything else either.

If your jobs as stressful as his and pays eg £10k and his pays £100k I would quit!

My DP is the same (except I am the higher earner). He's not interested in anything in the house - cooking / cleaning - he would happily pay for someone else to do the work but it's just not the same is it :(

Dehydratedcaterpillar · 09/07/2021 20:35

He earns approx £170k - my job is basically health and social care. It’s hard going some days but I appreciate I am not responsible for million dollar contracts so maybe I’m underestimating how hard his job is. I think they’re just very different, I don’t have the sales pressure, he doesn’t have someone threatening to harm themselves.

I’ll speak to him again. I might make a list of all the stuff I do vs what he does.

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Oldbutstillgotit · 09/07/2021 20:39

WildfirePonie

“You'd be better off as a single parent. EOW free to lie in and only cooking for yourself and DC.

What is stopping you?”

Sorry but why do people keep saying this ?? Given everything the OP has said about her DH , how likely is it that he will suddenly agree to EOW and looking after his DC ?

Dehydratedcaterpillar · 09/07/2021 20:40

Yeah - and I don’t actually want time away from my dc necessarily. I just want DH to take on some of the mental and physical load!

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LannieDuck · 09/07/2021 20:43

Reset the bar - at the moment it's so low you'll trip over it. You suggested he cook 1 evening a week... why?? He should be cooking at least 3 evenings a week. Make it clear that you expect a proper 50% share of the housework from him:

Cooking and washing up / dishwasher 3 (or 4?) days a week
Choosing two of the following: shopping, hoovering, laundry, school runs

And you get one morning lie-in every weekend.

Crankley · 09/07/2021 21:09

If he has never been any different, even before children, then you've enabled him. You then chose to have children and do everything for them.

The time to get him to do his share has long gone. Why would he now change?

Sarahlou63 · 09/07/2021 21:09

On £170k he could easily afford to make your life easier with a cleaner and a nanny. Alternatively he can support the children in good style with 50/50 custody. His choice.

TheFoundations · 09/07/2021 21:15

@Dehydratedcaterpillar

Ahh I’ve tried using words. The solution was he pays for take away one evening a week now.

That isn’t really much of a solution. Because he doesn’t do anything else either.

The words you need are 'I'm not cooking tonight. Are you going to cook for both of us, or just sort yourself out?'
Flamingmango · 09/07/2021 21:29

One of the things we did when I had to start doing all the cooking (which I hate), is that we starting getting one of the meal prep boxes (Hello Fresh for a bit, then Gousto).

Means 4 meals a week already decided and all the bits are there for it. He picks the meals wekkly (checks with me!) and assigns them to days to take on that mental load because he can't help physically.

Maybe something like that would work for you guys? Or at least throw a little something in the mix to stir it up.

HollowTalk · 09/07/2021 21:31

One mistake you're making (apart from not murdering him) is that you arrive home earlier. I'd drive around for half an hour and then go home and see what he's done.

Dehydratedcaterpillar · 09/07/2021 21:33

Oh he doesn’t do anything. He phoned me and asks about his tea instead 😬😬
Actually we were later back last week and when I got back he’d put something in for himself. But for no one else. He had tried to call me but I hadn’t answered.

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DrinkFeckArseBrick · 09/07/2021 21:39

Your message has made me so angry

"I’ve never had a lie in 😂😂
Weekend I do both days. Holidays I do all the days."

You're not responsible for million dollar deals. You're responsible for something much more important- peoples lives and health.

I think you've got two options.

Leave and then you can have a lie in every other weekend for the whole weekend

Stay but walk out and stay with a friend for a whole week to make him really see what you do, then negotiate the changes before you return.

Someone who is either so clueless or so selfish as your husband wont respond to talking it through or asking nicely

SleepingStandingUp · 09/07/2021 21:39

A few nights after takeout night when he asks say I don't know, what are you making. When he says but I brought takeout, point out that was 2 nights ago. Make sure you're sat on the sofa before he gets in too

iklboo · 09/07/2021 21:43

'Two jumps at the cupboard door and a bite of the knob'

'Shit, shite & sugar'

My nan's favourite responses to 'what are we having for tea?'

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